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Tardiness indeed
Yep, tardiness alright. Twin Otter crash at Kokoda, Dash 8 crash at Madang, and runway incursions in Australia. Flights operated without a flight attendant, advertised flights into Oakey which at the time was not on their AOC (CASA had screendumps from their website and caught out TCAS and Pinochio lying 
) and the list goes on. And that's the public stuff already out there. I haven't (and won't) start on all the other stuff!
CASA and the CAA doing a wonderful job I might add. Nothing the Regulator needs to see here, next operator please........
) and the list goes on. And that's the public stuff already out there. I haven't (and won't) start on all the other stuff!CASA and the CAA doing a wonderful job I might add. Nothing the Regulator needs to see here, next operator please........
Dejapoo,
Just to set you straight - as your comment shows you have misjudged and maligned another, who was adversely affected by this company...
You are correct that "another PPRuNe poster" was CP delegate on the day of the "flight attendant-less flight" but to set the matter straight - he was NOT aware that this decision had been made before the aircraft was operated and he certainly DID NOT approve it.
The flight was dispatched on the order of the commercial manager while the CP delegate was away on another task. There were some words exchanged in the McClown St office once he found out that his delegation had been exercised inappropriately by another. Certainly, some would have everyone believe that the CP stand-in was responsible - after all, he couldn't defend himself in the organisation once given the boot!
Maybe that's what led to him being terminated, or maybe it was because he wouldn't "pencil-whip" checks in the sim to save costs, or because he questioned certain practices...
Regardless, there was no "counselling" of him from CASA - and he has been the CP of another operator for a few years now...
Just to set you straight - as your comment shows you have misjudged and maligned another, who was adversely affected by this company...
You are correct that "another PPRuNe poster" was CP delegate on the day of the "flight attendant-less flight" but to set the matter straight - he was NOT aware that this decision had been made before the aircraft was operated and he certainly DID NOT approve it.
The flight was dispatched on the order of the commercial manager while the CP delegate was away on another task. There were some words exchanged in the McClown St office once he found out that his delegation had been exercised inappropriately by another. Certainly, some would have everyone believe that the CP stand-in was responsible - after all, he couldn't defend himself in the organisation once given the boot!
Maybe that's what led to him being terminated, or maybe it was because he wouldn't "pencil-whip" checks in the sim to save costs, or because he questioned certain practices...
Regardless, there was no "counselling" of him from CASA - and he has been the CP of another operator for a few years now...
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How long is a piece of string?
Said commercial manager was always actioning non compliant activities all in the name of profits! I also recall Skytrans operating emergency evac flights for a number of years without that being approved on their AOC either. They made good money from those 'charters' and CASA never caught on. No surprises in that. I also recall TCAS being pissed off with having to wait on ramp at CNS one morning so he quite simply commenced taxiing without ATC approval, and he knew it! Of course he got caught at the holding point and when questioned by ATC he claimed 'radio interference'. He did manage to jump the queue and save a couple of bucks fuel Of course it was an RPT flight but hey he never got busted. Safety, what safety?
Dejapoo, to set the matter straight I can assure you that flying bear was an innocent party in said incident, and he was unjustifiably pineappled and despatched in a cowardly and spineless manner, all the while being innocent. This group of companies has a history of screwing the good people while looking after the lawbreakers. Good people have principals and ethics and that (in the companies eyes) costs them profits at times when they are told 'sorry, we can't do that, it's illegal'. The lawbreakers just say 'ok, in the name of profits let's just do it'. The history and evidence of who has been rogered and who hasn't speaks for itself. The companies are in deep strife and karma has caught up finally, sad but true. They are reaping what they have sowed, sad for all the good people, but that's a fact.
Of course it was an RPT flight but hey he never got busted. Safety, what safety?Dejapoo, to set the matter straight I can assure you that flying bear was an innocent party in said incident, and he was unjustifiably pineappled and despatched in a cowardly and spineless manner, all the while being innocent. This group of companies has a history of screwing the good people while looking after the lawbreakers. Good people have principals and ethics and that (in the companies eyes) costs them profits at times when they are told 'sorry, we can't do that, it's illegal'. The lawbreakers just say 'ok, in the name of profits let's just do it'. The history and evidence of who has been rogered and who hasn't speaks for itself. The companies are in deep strife and karma has caught up finally, sad but true. They are reaping what they have sowed, sad for all the good people, but that's a fact.
No worries, Dejapoo, no offence taken...
That period was a dark time for me and I struggled to deal with the constant politics and back room games - at the same time as trying to manage my obligations to training and checking and maintaining a high flying load. The decade previous to that I spent in an organisation full of honorable people and I guess that meant I took the integrity of others (ie managers) for granted. Mistakenly...
In retrospect, my coming to their company was because AS was on a CASA direction to divulge himself of the HOTC role. So, why me? I had CAR 217 management experience, sure, but nothing on Dash 8 and I'm sure there were plenty of others to choose from? I reckon they wanted an ignorant, ex-military "yes man", which they soon learnt wasn't me! So, at the first underhanded opportunity, out I go!
Re NB from CASA, after all was done and dusted - I had a good chat with him and I think some things were resolved.
Certainly took me a while to get over it and gain perspective - but from it all I learnt a lot and I hope my colleagues are now the beneficiaries of it.
As for CJ's part in this, his mutual pain / frustration has helped me understand that there were other things in play other than my dynamic.
All the best!
That period was a dark time for me and I struggled to deal with the constant politics and back room games - at the same time as trying to manage my obligations to training and checking and maintaining a high flying load. The decade previous to that I spent in an organisation full of honorable people and I guess that meant I took the integrity of others (ie managers) for granted. Mistakenly...
In retrospect, my coming to their company was because AS was on a CASA direction to divulge himself of the HOTC role. So, why me? I had CAR 217 management experience, sure, but nothing on Dash 8 and I'm sure there were plenty of others to choose from? I reckon they wanted an ignorant, ex-military "yes man", which they soon learnt wasn't me! So, at the first underhanded opportunity, out I go!
Re NB from CASA, after all was done and dusted - I had a good chat with him and I think some things were resolved.
Certainly took me a while to get over it and gain perspective - but from it all I learnt a lot and I hope my colleagues are now the beneficiaries of it.
As for CJ's part in this, his mutual pain / frustration has helped me understand that there were other things in play other than my dynamic.
All the best!
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It looks like the shareholders have been dudded again.By the way, I got a bridge in Sydney for sale if there is any cash left in the kitty.
Whatever,the APNG Titanic is still headed for the iceberg with that crew in charge.
Whatever,the APNG Titanic is still headed for the iceberg with that crew in charge.
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Fugitive, probably the only sensible thing the school teacher has ever done is advise her 'no eye contact husband' not to make Pinochio CEO in Australia. Of course he didn't listen and the place turned to ****e. But don't let that stand in the way of anything, let's ship him off to PNG and give him another shot at being a CEO - oh dear, another epic fail! But never mind, TCAS gets to fly up there every week with Pinocchio and hold hands in the back seat of the plane.
And boys, as for the subject of CASA and NB. The problem was that TCAS was caught red handed being a naughty boy and didn't like it. Then he cried like a baby and made a complaint to the ICC! Ha, what a fool. He should've known better, and that complaint sealed his fate. Of course he and Pinocchio felt so hard done by, but the truth of the matter, as can be seen clearly, was that CASA held every right not to feel comfortable with TCAS as CP or Pinocchio as CEO. Oh how the truth is always revealed
And boys, as for the subject of CASA and NB. The problem was that TCAS was caught red handed being a naughty boy and didn't like it. Then he cried like a baby and made a complaint to the ICC! Ha, what a fool. He should've known better, and that complaint sealed his fate. Of course he and Pinocchio felt so hard done by, but the truth of the matter, as can be seen clearly, was that CASA held every right not to feel comfortable with TCAS as CP or Pinocchio as CEO. Oh how the truth is always revealed
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Thanks Flying Bear, Cactus and Dejapoo, it makes things a lot clearer from my perspective. What a disaster they are. I really feel for the staff at APNG. There is not the same regulative environment up there to keep Cowboys such as TCAS in check. I think tho' that the people up there ie "punters" realise it and have voted with their feet. Time will tell. TCAS was always at pains to say how the travelling public percieved the airline as dangerous, I almost chocked when he said that. I hope the perception can be changed, but I feel it will require a change of management and a bucket load of money to do it. Perhaps selling it off will work out for the best.
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Ps Fugitive I am not dyslexic. Just a very naughty boy.
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Ps Fugitive I am not dyslexic. Just a very naughty boy.
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I vouch 100% for Flying Bears version of the non FA trip to ABM. At the time the book keeper was on leave and said commercial manager acting took a very liberal interpretation of the sub 19 seat exemption they held. FB was not contacted during this process. Think the CM may still have held the AOC delegation at the time as hangover from GM in QRA merge. He didn't have a lot of regard for rules perhaps being another PNG product but did have an uncanny ability to build relationships and win work, kept under control suspect that he would have been very welcome there by all bar the teacher at the moment. Surprised he didn't turn up at APNG.
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*Fire-sale on now*
I'm still wanting to know why 'he who is too scared to look into the eyes of other humans' and the school teacher have flogged all the Dash 8's they owned, sold the Bentley, the house and now the business interests in Townsville?? I certainly hope that if any of their airlines fail the offloaded asset monies are returned or distributed to the rightful creditors
Justa dash, the CM won't be welcome back in PNG. He is a snake oil salesman and left a bad taste in a few mouths so don't expect him to show up any time soon. He also didn't get along with the school teacher, and when she came onboard it was time for him to go. The school teacher also got rid of the karate kicking ginger ninja as well, depleting Commercial to what is now left - the part time Gladstone checkin agent/wannabe Manager. How farcical. Anyway, keep watching the skyline folks as the TMR contracts should've been released to the successful bidders by now, to be released by the government publicly in January I believe, and what I have heard from a well placed source in Sydney, there may be more SAAB's than dinosaur Dash 8's gracing the Queensland skies soon
Oh well with bills mounting, creditors owed, company being sued, runway incursions and crashes in PNG they must have lots to chat about over a cup of Jamaica Blue every Saturday
Justa dash, the CM won't be welcome back in PNG. He is a snake oil salesman and left a bad taste in a few mouths so don't expect him to show up any time soon. He also didn't get along with the school teacher, and when she came onboard it was time for him to go. The school teacher also got rid of the karate kicking ginger ninja as well, depleting Commercial to what is now left - the part time Gladstone checkin agent/wannabe Manager. How farcical. Anyway, keep watching the skyline folks as the TMR contracts should've been released to the successful bidders by now, to be released by the government publicly in January I believe, and what I have heard from a well placed source in Sydney, there may be more SAAB's than dinosaur Dash 8's gracing the Queensland skies soon
Oh well with bills mounting, creditors owed, company being sued, runway incursions and crashes in PNG they must have lots to chat about over a cup of Jamaica Blue every Saturday
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Hey CJ just read your article in post 129, I almost threw up well I did actually. That rag is a freebie and I have never seen it say anything negative about people who pay for advertising. Maybe they can get TCAS's son to write a nice article for them in the Cairns Post, that bastion of journalistic excellence.
The thing that really irked me was the pretence of them being charitable folk, bloody hell!!! True philanthropists don't blow their own trumpets. Of course they give money to the Catholic church, after all it bailed out MBA in the early years. Wonder who will bail them out next? Probably the PNG government.
It is the anniversary of MCJ on Monday. Just so they don't forget.
One positive since they have pissed off the Taipans are performing defeated Adelaide today.
The thing that really irked me was the pretence of them being charitable folk, bloody hell!!! True philanthropists don't blow their own trumpets. Of course they give money to the Catholic church, after all it bailed out MBA in the early years. Wonder who will bail them out next? Probably the PNG government.
It is the anniversary of MCJ on Monday. Just so they don't forget.
One positive since they have pissed off the Taipans are performing defeated Adelaide today.
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The thing that really irked me was the pretence of them being charitable folk, bloody hell!!! True philanthropists don't blow their own trumpets.
As for the Taipans, do you know if the Skytrans blimp is still being flown at local games in Cairns? I thought it was the best aircraft in their fleet, certainly was the youngest!!!
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Article from yesterday's "The National".
Major shareholders of Airlines PNG said they wanted new shares to increase there stake in the airline firm.
Airlines PNG confirmed receiving requests from Ok Tedi Landowners, Fly River provincial government, Mineral Resources Development Company and NASFUND to increase their respective shareholdings.....
.......As an integral part of the overall restructuring of the airlines ownership, the company's founder and major shareholder Sir a John Wild has agreed to the majority of his shares in the airline being cancelled, thereby making way for the increased shareholding by institutional shareholders.
Sir John said: "In order to ensure the long term substainability of Airlines PNG and facilitate further capital raising by the company I am happy to gift a significant portion of my shares back to the airline. This fulfils a dream of mine to see the airline majority owned for the people of PNG and strongly positioned to carry on its service to the country."
Not the full article but gives the main thrust
Major shareholders of Airlines PNG said they wanted new shares to increase there stake in the airline firm.
Airlines PNG confirmed receiving requests from Ok Tedi Landowners, Fly River provincial government, Mineral Resources Development Company and NASFUND to increase their respective shareholdings.....
.......As an integral part of the overall restructuring of the airlines ownership, the company's founder and major shareholder Sir a John Wild has agreed to the majority of his shares in the airline being cancelled, thereby making way for the increased shareholding by institutional shareholders.
Sir John said: "In order to ensure the long term substainability of Airlines PNG and facilitate further capital raising by the company I am happy to gift a significant portion of my shares back to the airline. This fulfils a dream of mine to see the airline majority owned for the people of PNG and strongly positioned to carry on its service to the country."
Not the full article but gives the main thrust
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But what about the 'S' word?
Airlines PNG’s chief executive Muralee Siva said: “Our commitment to serving the needs of the PNG travelling public remains the cornerstone of our operations.
“With greater involvement now from institutional shareholders and the continued support of the people we will ensure much needed competition in air transportation services is available to assist in developing this great country.”
“With greater involvement now from institutional shareholders and the continued support of the people we will ensure much needed competition in air transportation services is available to assist in developing this great country.”
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Definitely not a wordsmith
He needs a beta lockout on his mouth!
What ****e
What ****e
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CJ we may well have had a beer together at the dero club in the past, your info is right on the money.
The Garbo from Gladstone, ex bag snatcher from POM was determined to run Dash8s to YPAM, despite good advise to the contrary "if you build it they will come" and go they did, to the competition and soon more competition sprang up.
Undeterred the genius came up with another "organic growth opportunity" and decided it would be a good idea to sell pizza and beer (beer inbound TSV only as Palm was dry by then) on the 8 minute sectors
As for pilots working check in, ramp, traffic, etc all been done before in TSV.
"flight and duty times.......???"
My favourite memory of Thick Miney is when he got up at the monthly back slap and compared himself to Richard Branson with respect to the challenges of building an airline a few of us got a kick out of that one....
Keep up the good work the truth is out there...........
And would you believe his ex wife is a School Teacher....
The Garbo from Gladstone, ex bag snatcher from POM was determined to run Dash8s to YPAM, despite good advise to the contrary "if you build it they will come" and go they did, to the competition and soon more competition sprang up.
Undeterred the genius came up with another "organic growth opportunity" and decided it would be a good idea to sell pizza and beer (beer inbound TSV only as Palm was dry by then) on the 8 minute sectors
As for pilots working check in, ramp, traffic, etc all been done before in TSV.
"flight and duty times.......???"
My favourite memory of Thick Miney is when he got up at the monthly back slap and compared himself to Richard Branson with respect to the challenges of building an airline
a few of us got a kick out of that one....Keep up the good work the truth is out there...........
And would you believe his ex wife is a School Teacher....
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Unsure of your 'source' in Sydney regarding the renewal of the TMR contracts. However I find it hard to believe REX if they stand by their 'all or nothing threat' would be participating in any of the QLD runs. Let alone the lack of equipment to operate on such runs..
Everyone is eagarly waiting the announcement but with the crunch line coming close, with the new contracts commencing Jan 1st 2015- I wouldn't be surprised if runs stay with the current operators. Cairns is looking fairly stable however Brissy and Townsville could see some movement.
Air North is a possibility to enter the market but again, lack of aircraft and maintenance facilities would be difficult given the timeline.
Jetgo, Corporate Air?? Unsure if these guys are in for a chance but understand they did apply.
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Unsure of your 'source' in Sydney regarding the renewal of the TMR contracts. However I find it hard to believe REX if they stand by their 'all or nothing threat' would be participating in any of the QLD runs. Let alone the lack of equipment to operate on such runs..
Everyone is eagarly waiting the announcement but with the crunch line coming close, with the new contracts commencing Jan 1st 2015- I wouldn't be surprised if runs stay with the current operators. Cairns is looking fairly stable however Brissy and Townsville could see some movement.
Air North is a possibility to enter the market but again, lack of aircraft and maintenance facilities would be difficult given the timeline.
Jetgo, Corporate Air?? Unsure if these guys are in for a chance but understand they did apply.
Be Happy,
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Great post beached az, you are accurate in your commentary and yes the dero club and Cactusjack's has been hammered by me on numerous occasions! I'm wondering if you are the guy that played blackjack with me in the nude at 0500 one morning???? Anyway the Gladstone Garbo fits the management mould perfectly - a bully, incompetent, arrogant and absolutely full of it. Naturally he managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the school teacher and 'he who is afraid to interact with other humans with eye contact'. But that isn't too hard to do!
Don't let compliance with flight duty times get in the way of making a couple of bucks! I'm sure that Slippery Steves legacy, the half a million dollar pile of ****e Merlo, will handle monitoring those hours accurately! Then again ol Slippery introduced similar systems at Skywest and Maroomba and cost those companies dearly. Of course at Skytrans Pinocchio yet again was fooled by the snake oil salesman and fell for the system hook, line and stinker! Perhaps Pinocchio has taken it to APNG and uses it to run TCAS SIM?
As for pilots working check in, ramp, traffic, etc all been done before in TSV.
"flight and duty times.......???
"flight and duty times.......???
Maisk,
MT is one and the same...
Integrity? MT was not alone in being devoid of this. The other colourful characters described herein were also very challenged on the integrity front.
MT is one and the same...
Integrity? MT was not alone in being devoid of this. The other colourful characters described herein were also very challenged on the integrity front.
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TMR will decide based on price despite all the assurances of diligence etc. it will be Rex and Skytrans in the race as Airnorth apparently withdrew from the race. They should retain what they had as operationally crews and engineers etc have done very well in a tuff operating environment.
TM was very much the player as was evident if you ever attended the FA grad parties or spoke to half of the back office.
Pinnacle was an evening with the CASA FA rep during an audit, eventually all was revealed and some disappeared quietly. Credit where it's due he, Ninja and GB did bring in the work. Company grew from 1-10 aircraft in 5 years with "audited"profit statements. Story was they were the only senior staff to go of there own volition in the SMT clean out
TM was very much the player as was evident if you ever attended the FA grad parties or spoke to half of the back office.
Pinnacle was an evening with the CASA FA rep during an audit, eventually all was revealed and some disappeared quietly. Credit where it's due he, Ninja and GB did bring in the work. Company grew from 1-10 aircraft in 5 years with "audited"profit statements. Story was they were the only senior staff to go of there own volition in the SMT clean out
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Sounds like a fun place to work!!! But isn't aviation like that in general.
Sounds like Skytrans are in a bit of a pickle indeed. Question- selling off the fathers shareholding in the PNG side of things, will that mean that the family have no more interest in the company? I wonder how much they got for it? Will this now be used to refinance Skytrans? bigger newer aircraft etc.
Who will own Airlines of PNG in the future and will they be getting new aircraft? Rumours of ATR's but nothing seen or heard as of yet.
Are PX still anting to have an interest?
Sounds like Skytrans are in a bit of a pickle indeed. Question- selling off the fathers shareholding in the PNG side of things, will that mean that the family have no more interest in the company? I wonder how much they got for it? Will this now be used to refinance Skytrans? bigger newer aircraft etc.
Who will own Airlines of PNG in the future and will they be getting new aircraft? Rumours of ATR's but nothing seen or heard as of yet.
Are PX still anting to have an interest?