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Financial results to be released in October 2014
Take a small trip back in time;
PNGIndustryNews.net - Dogfight over PNG
Not looking too promising at the moment, some 15 months after that article was penned and that interview undertaken. So just like with Toomey, will the AGM release contain fancy pretty aeroplane pictures and glossy paper with lots of numbers and digits for the past financial year (due out in October) and contain platitudes and back slaps for Siva, resulting in a healthy bonus and plaque on the wall for the little man? Or will the financial results mean he will be dispatched back to Australia where a job cleaning Simons pool or teaching mumbo jumbo management courses awaits him? Only time will tell.
PNGIndustryNews.net - Dogfight over PNG
When asked about profitability for 2012, Siva refused to be drawn.
“I can’t go in financial profitability. We’ll publish information in due time,” he told PNG Report, with the AGM expected in May.
“Running an airline in PNG is a challenging place and is a vital part of the economy. And I’m a firm believer in the basics, a high quality service,” Siva said.
It will be interesting to see how, under his mantra, the nation’s largest privately owned airline charts that course.
“I can’t go in financial profitability. We’ll publish information in due time,” he told PNG Report, with the AGM expected in May.
“Running an airline in PNG is a challenging place and is a vital part of the economy. And I’m a firm believer in the basics, a high quality service,” Siva said.
It will be interesting to see how, under his mantra, the nation’s largest privately owned airline charts that course.
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Interesting, rumour had it that individuals were running the ruler over it for acquisition. Trading halt still in place I guess? "due to financially sensitive negotiations". Now, the financial results for the previous year not released till October, (what date Cactus?). Kina securities had them losing 31 million Kina last year. Supposedly they are buying new ATR's. Have negotiations for the sale of the airline fallen through? Could they not get the price they wanted? Hmmm....... Too many questions.
Cactus that was a nice link from the past, it will indeed be interesting reading the next instalment in the history of that "special mob". They must be running out of time.
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Cactus that was a nice link from the past, it will indeed be interesting reading the next instalment in the history of that "special mob". They must be running out of time.
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Cactus that was a nice link from the past
As for adding ATR's, you are correct socks n shoes, they are meant to be coming, but they haven't arrived yet. Maybe APNG will just end up with some of the old Maroomba tails that are flying around Queensland and nobody will notice the illusion? I mean Pinochio wouldn't! And besides, does anyone really want Captain TCAS touching a nice shiny new ATR?
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Nah cactus TCAS can only fly the sim. The boys are going to love this in the dungeon-crew room- downstairs.
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Simon's pain is Maroomba's gain!
So, while APNG continues to flounder, and Skytrans continues to lose staff (52 in less than 12 months), contracts are lost (continuously, and even Elrose has now gone to Alliance), and they lose money, Bentley's and of course aircraft, two of those planes have popped up at Maroomba;
Australia's Maroomba Airlines to add two more Dash 8-100s - ch-aviation.com
Ever since Maroomba cut the Skytrans noose away from around its neck it has risen from strength to strength. Good work lads
And it is great how the four ex Maroomba Dash 8's are now operating most of the Cairns flights. It's great advertising at least, having those 4 tails flying around Queensland advertising Maroomba and not Skytrans who are operating the aircraft! It only costs $20k per tail to repaint them, surely things aren't that tight? Oh well, dropping the free bag allowance from 20kg to 15kg might help a little, even though most people flying in and out of indigenous communities can't afford this 
Australia's Maroomba Airlines to add two more Dash 8-100s - ch-aviation.com
Ever since Maroomba cut the Skytrans noose away from around its neck it has risen from strength to strength. Good work lads
And it is great how the four ex Maroomba Dash 8's are now operating most of the Cairns flights. It's great advertising at least, having those 4 tails flying around Queensland advertising Maroomba and not Skytrans who are operating the aircraft! It only costs $20k per tail to repaint them, surely things aren't that tight? Oh well, dropping the free bag allowance from 20kg to 15kg might help a little, even though most people flying in and out of indigenous communities can't afford this
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Wagner I guess he would be safe and warm and cosy in a sim. Can't get in too much trouble there now can you.
Cactus I don't quite understand the article says the aircraft are leased from Skytrans? How many dashes do Maroomba have now and how many are on lease from Sh@ttrans?
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Cactus I don't quite understand the article says the aircraft are leased from Skytrans? How many dashes do Maroomba have now and how many are on lease from Sh@ttrans?
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Hi Craven, yes it's a bit of a trail to follow so to speak (unlike the trails that Captain TCAS and Pinochio leave behind them everywhere they go 
) Skytrans leased 4 Dashies to Maroomba for a few years, but Maroomba has since returned them to Skytrans. The same 4 Dashies are the ones cruising around Queensland in Maroomba livery still. The 2 Dashies that Maroomba have just leased are former Skytrans Dashies. Team Wild sold them to a leasing company who in turn have leased them to Maroomba. And Craven, speaking of SIMS, even they can be broken so with Captain TCAS anything is possible! I still recall it was not that long ago that 'Slippery Steve' (prior to his slide into oblivion) was sprouting off in his loud obnoxious lame voice that he was going to turn Cairns into a Dashie training hub and put some Dash SIM's up here, and in turn make a nice profitable return! Of course, as with everything that Slippery touches the idea remained flaccid and amounted to nothing more than a wet dream....and that isn't mumbo jumbo.
) Skytrans leased 4 Dashies to Maroomba for a few years, but Maroomba has since returned them to Skytrans. The same 4 Dashies are the ones cruising around Queensland in Maroomba livery still. The 2 Dashies that Maroomba have just leased are former Skytrans Dashies. Team Wild sold them to a leasing company who in turn have leased them to Maroomba. And Craven, speaking of SIMS, even they can be broken so with Captain TCAS anything is possible! I still recall it was not that long ago that 'Slippery Steve' (prior to his slide into oblivion) was sprouting off in his loud obnoxious lame voice that he was going to turn Cairns into a Dashie training hub and put some Dash SIM's up here, and in turn make a nice profitable return! Of course, as with everything that Slippery touches the idea remained flaccid and amounted to nothing more than a wet dream....and that isn't mumbo jumbo.
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Spend enough time working for that crowd and you too may be looking for work, for whatever reason. Don't get on the wrong side of the silver haired one, or the self proclaimed expert on Dash 8's. They certainly are not your friends, A/PNG or Skytrans.
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Fujiroll from Gladstone, you wouldn't be a former part-time checkin agent now masquerading as a 'big time manager' alongside the silver haired one would you? Have you completed your 'mumbo jumbo management training' by the school teacher?
Ret Sabala, very true my friend very true. Just asked the three Engineers punted recently after being found in the cargo hold of one of the aircraft in Cairns 'a little worse for wear'. Or the loyal long term finance employee punted for no valid reason (FWA involved in that one now!) Oh yes, no loyalty is given by the 'family' to anybody outside the 'family', well except to TCAS and Pinochio
One must ask why two individuals who have single handedly contributed to causing much much damage at two of the silvered haired one's airlines could remain on the bookkeepers books? I wonder why??
Ret Sabala, very true my friend very true. Just asked the three Engineers punted recently after being found in the cargo hold of one of the aircraft in Cairns 'a little worse for wear'. Or the loyal long term finance employee punted for no valid reason (FWA involved in that one now!) Oh yes, no loyalty is given by the 'family' to anybody outside the 'family', well except to TCAS and Pinochio
One must ask why two individuals who have single handedly contributed to causing much much damage at two of the silvered haired one's airlines could remain on the bookkeepers books? I wonder why??
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No unfortunately I'm not, just have many friends at the airline. You clearly have your issues with the management but seriously get over it. For the few that I know who work at Skytrans, they all throughly enjoy it and from what I hear are a bunch of great guys. Pilots, Engineers, Ops Staff ect.
Managing an airline would be a hell of a job! Especially in the current aviation downturn, just ask Macair, Brindabella and Vincent of recent times, yet Skytrans still stand with plans to be around for many more years.
Time to let it go mate...move on.
No unfortunately I'm not, just have many friends at the airline. You clearly have your issues with the management but seriously get over it. For the few that I know who work at Skytrans, they all throughly enjoy it and from what I hear are a bunch of great guys. Pilots, Engineers, Ops Staff ect.
Managing an airline would be a hell of a job! Especially in the current aviation downturn, just ask Macair, Brindabella and Vincent of recent times, yet Skytrans still stand with plans to be around for many more years.
Time to let it go mate...move on.
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Skytrans aren't sustainable for many reasons but they don't help themselves. Perhaps they should start by not referring to their staff as 'The Humans' (the school teacher does this) and in 'welcome' addresses, not threaten new staff with dismissal if they cross management (or words similar). The staff in the main, are fantastic but they are not respected by the owners who have the attitude of 'you're lucky to have a job with us in the first place, so be grateful' (this was actually said out loud). Is it any wonder there is so much legal action against them or that they continue to be subject to relentless negative posts on here by both former and existing employees? Do yourselves a favour Skytrans and employ senior staff who actually know how to run a business rather than drive it into the ground. If there was an award for this, you'd be up there with the worst of them.
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I have to agree with you Mr Morse man with the previous post above. The same can be said for the Airlines of PNG managment. Pretty much runs throughout the whole corporate structure..
Fujiroll it is great to see loyalty in staff, indeed an admirable trait to have, I am sure it will see you well in the future. Just don't expect any sort of loyalty back from them.
Do what everyone does get the experience or whatever you can out of them and get out; exit stage left Boo Boo.
Fujiroll it is great to see loyalty in staff, indeed an admirable trait to have, I am sure it will see you well in the future. Just don't expect any sort of loyalty back from them.
Do what everyone does get the experience or whatever you can out of them and get out; exit stage left Boo Boo.
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Dot Dot Dash you win the cash!!!
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Your post pretty much sums them up perfectly. Management (the family) care only about themselves and their bank accounts. Anything and everything else is expendable, and I mean everything.
Oh yes, that old chestnut. That's what you get when you have a school teacher who thinks an airline which is made up of talented technical experts is a classroom full of Year 4 children. Never send a bush teacher to do an airline executives job. It was always going to fail. Nothing 'unique' about that.
Again, nothing new in this. They have told many people the same disgusting thing. A few times at the silly weekly staff meeting this has been reiterated. It's a form of bullying and it is intimidation, and only a gutless incompetent manager would speak so unprofessionally and prattle off so much mumbo jumbo.
No surprise whatsoever. That's what happens when yet again you have people who are not skilled Managers trying to be mangers. They act as if Australia is pretty much lawless like PNG and they do as they please, regardless. That's why they have ended up in endless amounts of strife. Cowboys trying to run an airline. Doomed to fail.
Sadly they have on occasion employed good managers, but that is long gone. Now it's just an entrepreneur, school teacher and ex rampie that talks it up big but produces nothing (no wonder they all gel together!), living the fantasy that they are big time airline executives. They are only fooling themselves. Too conceited to realise that there are other people out there that can see through the circus act and are very intelligent and absolutley have 'managements number'. Flash cars, fancy houses and fat bank accounts is nothing but a facade used to hide what lays beneath, hilariously the only ones that think nobody knows what lays beneath is the circus folks themselves! (Shhhhh here's a secret - we all know what you're all about!)
52 staff punted or quit in approximately 12 months. That tells a story all in itself.
Your post pretty much sums them up perfectly. Management (the family) care only about themselves and their bank accounts. Anything and everything else is expendable, and I mean everything.
Skytrans Perhaps they should start by not referring to their staff as 'The Humans' (the school teacher does this) and in 'welcome' addresses, not threaten new staff with dismissal if they cross management (or words similar).
The staff in the main, are fantastic but they are not respected by the owners who have the attitude of 'you're lucky to have a job with us in the first place, so be grateful' (this was actually said out loud).
Is it any wonder there is so much legal action against them
Do yourselves a favour Skytrans and employ senior staff who actually know how to run a business rather than drive it into the ground. If there was an award for this, you'd be up there with the worst of them.
52 staff punted or quit in approximately 12 months. That tells a story all in itself.
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APNG trading suspension extended to December 31, 2014
Update from the stock exchange dated 30 September 2014:
http://www.pomsox.com.pg/dimages/com...fs/28_2505.pdf
So the waiting game continues for the good people of APNG? Another extension of the 2013 financial results. That's got to have a few shareholders concerned? Especially when you consider the financial problems at the MD's other airline, not to mention redundancies at both airlines, aircraft sold at both airlines and even personal assets offloaded. The MD and Pinocchio are very busy at the moment scrambling about, hither and tither, avoiding eye contact with other humans while trying to make those balance sheets stack up. But don't worry folks, the school teacher just put more staff through some mumbo jumbo training, all 'uniquely' billed back to the struggling airline. At least somebody is making money out of the place
All we are waiting on now is an announcement from the part-time checkin manager that his dream has been fulfilled and they are going to start their own ground handling company!!!
http://www.pomsox.com.pg/dimages/com...fs/28_2505.pdf
So the waiting game continues for the good people of APNG? Another extension of the 2013 financial results. That's got to have a few shareholders concerned? Especially when you consider the financial problems at the MD's other airline, not to mention redundancies at both airlines, aircraft sold at both airlines and even personal assets offloaded. The MD and Pinocchio are very busy at the moment scrambling about, hither and tither, avoiding eye contact with other humans while trying to make those balance sheets stack up. But don't worry folks, the school teacher just put more staff through some mumbo jumbo training, all 'uniquely' billed back to the struggling airline. At least somebody is making money out of the place
All we are waiting on now is an announcement from the part-time checkin manager that his dream has been fulfilled and they are going to start their own ground handling company!!!
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Same thing I was thinking UA.
Cactus, while I appreciate your posts and it is quite interesting to watch... rather like a crappy soap opera on tv... I can't help but wonder... Did the boss kick your dog while running off with the missus?
Cactus, while I appreciate your posts and it is quite interesting to watch... rather like a crappy soap opera on tv... I can't help but wonder... Did the boss kick your dog while running off with the missus?
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DDD a very accurate assessment of the airlines circumstances indeed. The slide started once the teacher realised that her business was floundering her charity bodies were questioning her competence so bullied her way into the airline. The autopsy will clearly demonstrate the correlation between her involvement and the trading decline. The economy chestnut is trotted out as the basis however the markets served don't have an option but air travel due the remoteness of there communities. If you burn your customers they find other equipment or operators as has been demonstrated. If you burn your staff they will not produce, the tears flowing at the recent redundancy announcement were soon to be realised as disingenuous when the jobs were re advertised, absolute amateurs. But all is not lost the Taipans blimp has been placed on ebay that should hold off divesting of the remaining Xmas tree QQF or will it?