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Actually Lilflyboy262...2 I quite enjoy the posts from Cactus. We need people to ask questions and bring forward relevant information even if it is sometimes a little repetitive, and maybe a little personal.
I am sure that you are aware that there are some in the business world with nefarious practices, those people should be outed and the public made aware of their sins. I am sure Campbell Newman is a worried man at present-for instance. If he has done no wrong.... well then he has nothing to worry about. After all the big end of town tried to silence Erin Brockovich, now she is a feted activist and campaigner for the little person. So think of Cactus as PPRune's version of Erin Brockovich , Mr Palmer, Labor or the Green's.
What I want to know is why is the company in a trading halt?
Why have they not released the financial report and guidance for the next year? That is akin to hiding your report card from your father when you have clearly been naughty.
Is the company up for sale?
As a listed company the shareholders have a right to know these things.
The company reports since they were listed is an interesting read and freely available on their website. Makes for interesting reading. Not one a prospective buyer or investor would be happy with that's for sure.
I have no beef with the group of companies, just want to keep the playing field level. Something that those that are not as good as they would like to think they are, don't like.
After all if you can't win by playing fair, just change the rules, 'eh boys.
I am sure that you are aware that there are some in the business world with nefarious practices, those people should be outed and the public made aware of their sins. I am sure Campbell Newman is a worried man at present-for instance. If he has done no wrong.... well then he has nothing to worry about. After all the big end of town tried to silence Erin Brockovich, now she is a feted activist and campaigner for the little person. So think of Cactus as PPRune's version of Erin Brockovich , Mr Palmer, Labor or the Green's.
What I want to know is why is the company in a trading halt?
Why have they not released the financial report and guidance for the next year? That is akin to hiding your report card from your father when you have clearly been naughty.
Is the company up for sale?
As a listed company the shareholders have a right to know these things.
The company reports since they were listed is an interesting read and freely available on their website. Makes for interesting reading. Not one a prospective buyer or investor would be happy with that's for sure.
I have no beef with the group of companies, just want to keep the playing field level. Something that those that are not as good as they would like to think they are, don't like.
After all if you can't win by playing fair, just change the rules, 'eh boys.
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Justa dash and socksfirst, careful, negative speak towards 'the family' won't be tolerated. Punishment for you two will be by way of you having to attend the school teachers next mumbo jumbo management course, plus you get to spend a week in solitary confinement with 'he who does not engage with other humans', the cardboard cutout, TCAS and Pinochio! Either that or you will be unceremoniously walked out the building or sacked while on annual leave, you naughty humans. And as for making humans redundant or sacking them and then re advertising their positions, that old chestnut has been used on numerous occasions. Again just an example of their caring nature towards other humans!
Hope you have your vomit bucket ready;
http://s3.amazonaws.com/cuttings/cut...5b94391927.pdf
Yep, that must be why they charge excess baggage on the northern routes out to those less fortunate communities yet the more southern western farmers routes don't get charged
Hope you have your vomit bucket ready;
http://s3.amazonaws.com/cuttings/cut...5b94391927.pdf
Yep, that must be why they charge excess baggage on the northern routes out to those less fortunate communities yet the more southern western farmers routes don't get charged
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Couldn't agree with you more socks. I wasn't saying that he shouldn't be airing this dirty laundry.
What I was getting at, was that this is beyond dirty laundry. This seems more like a personal vendetta.
What I was getting at, was that this is beyond dirty laundry. This seems more like a personal vendetta.
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We seem to have got off the track slightly, here.The main problem is,what has happened to what were good companies.
The problem with both and you could say that about the main Oz airlines,AN,QF and no doubt, probably JQ.
They say that successful companies are all about the people who work at the rock face and the company will succeed if your employees are right behind management(who are are capable) and vice versa.
All of the above are good examples of that and dare I say it,Virgin is the opposite,but look at the people managing it and talk to the employees.
When management attack their workforce,there will be retaliation and there is only one way to go from there.
To bring the thug mentality into management will never work and just look at some of the nicknames that they are given.
Anyway,it hurts everyone and we are all losers,including shareholders.
Surely the people oversee management don't want to commit hari kari,so why do they sit back.
Anyway,that is the way aviation in Oz and also PNG has behaved for the last 25 or so years and it wont change.
The problem with both and you could say that about the main Oz airlines,AN,QF and no doubt, probably JQ.
They say that successful companies are all about the people who work at the rock face and the company will succeed if your employees are right behind management(who are are capable) and vice versa.
All of the above are good examples of that and dare I say it,Virgin is the opposite,but look at the people managing it and talk to the employees.
When management attack their workforce,there will be retaliation and there is only one way to go from there.
To bring the thug mentality into management will never work and just look at some of the nicknames that they are given.
Anyway,it hurts everyone and we are all losers,including shareholders.
Surely the people oversee management don't want to commit hari kari,so why do they sit back.
Anyway,that is the way aviation in Oz and also PNG has behaved for the last 25 or so years and it wont change.
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Lilflyboy, I assume you are talking about me? Then again there are a number of people on here that seem to have been treated the same way.
Not at all. It's quite simple really, do the right thing by me and I will praise you for life, do the wrong thing and I will tell people all about it. I have said on previous occasions that there are good people in every company, APNG and Skytrans are no different. But if you read the multitude of postings from different people you will identify a particular theme very very quickly. And again as I have said before, if you do the right thing by people in life then you will go through life with pride and a reputation for being a good person/company. But treat people like the dirt beneath your feet then prepare for the backlash. It's called karma, what goes around comes around. And there is an easy fix for those whose companies treat people like ****e - Do the right thing and there will be no basis for negative comments.
So lilflyboy, what you call Vendetta others would call 'simply telling the truth'. It's your call how you want to view it, but I can assure you of this - If you haven't worked for either of these companies in recent years and been strung out to dry by them then your comments are based on assumptions only and not on fact. On the other hand there are many negative comments on here that are based on fact.
What I was getting at, was that this is beyond dirty laundry. This seems more like a personal vendetta.
So lilflyboy, what you call Vendetta others would call 'simply telling the truth'. It's your call how you want to view it, but I can assure you of this - If you haven't worked for either of these companies in recent years and been strung out to dry by them then your comments are based on assumptions only and not on fact. On the other hand there are many negative comments on here that are based on fact.
So let me get this straight....all of this is Cactus's problem? He is just posting about a collection of sphincters in the public interest. It is probably cathartic for him to do so. Let the man vent. Think of it as a restaurant review: we are all, in one way or another, consumers of whatever shiite managements dish up. Diner, passenger or pilot, I want to know what is going on behind the scenes.
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I agree Cactus,this forum is open to all. The type of people you are talking about are not capable of fixing things or logical discussion.their response is always to shoot the messenger.
Just remember,they are the downside of aviation and they will never get the message.
Just remember,they are the downside of aviation and they will never get the message.
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Cactus I enjoy your posts. Don't worry you are far from needing a Psychiatrist, (I know you weren't worried), it's the people that this company end up with in management roles that need the professional help.
I know they watch this site so do yourselves a favour guys.
Clearly from your insight and large data base of information it is obvious that you have been burnt by this organisation. Also by your eloquent writing style and good grammar that you are quite intelligent, so keep up the good work mate. There are many in a similar position. It would be good to see the management, aka Pinocchio, BBoy and TCAS despatched to the history books. The skies would certainly be a safer place.
No Wild ass guesses there.
I know they watch this site so do yourselves a favour guys.
Clearly from your insight and large data base of information it is obvious that you have been burnt by this organisation. Also by your eloquent writing style and good grammar that you are quite intelligent, so keep up the good work mate. There are many in a similar position. It would be good to see the management, aka Pinocchio, BBoy and TCAS despatched to the history books. The skies would certainly be a safer place.
No Wild ass guesses there.
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Myself likewise.
I worked very briefly for the former MBA
another lifetime ago, and am totally bewildered as to how things have changed over the years.
I worked very briefly for the former MBA
another lifetime ago, and am totally bewildered as to how things have changed over the years.
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Pinky, there are a few punters out there who worked for MBA at some stage in their career, and it was a more people friendly environment. Same applies for the earlier version of APNG and particularly Skytrans before the Rothschild wannabe's took it over and turned it into what it is today.
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Cactus you are so close to the truth it is scarey. I wanna have a beer with you.
Plus we could have a giggle about their most recent antics such as them dreaming about starting a ground handling company, outsourcing their I.T department and having it also provide services for other companies, plus the fact that the lease is up on the head office and they want to ditch the building to save money!!! Then there is the even funnier stories about TCAS taking off with a load of Mine workers but with no F/A onboard (CASA toasted him over that one), and once again TCAS allowing for and planning and conducting flights to a port not listed on their AOC (another CASA pineapple for that one), and of course Pinocchio and Bentley Boy supporting their loyal CP the entire way
But just like the Demtel add "but wait there's more" and the list continues, but continue over some beers it shall.
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Cactus, that's amazing forgetting an F/A planning to ports not on the AOC, if it was not who I think you are talking about I would have said NAH not possible.
I wonder if there was an angry outburst associated with the events.
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I wonder if there was an angry outburst associated with the events.
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Head office relocation
Relocating to the airport is the most positive move the revitalised management team have made since assuming the reins.
Management of GA or Regional companies need to have a sleeves up, ties off and supportive approach.
Demountable buildings may not be as flash as the city and will likely see some jump (please be HR)but will serve to galvanise those that remain.
Maybe a good time to drop the corporate image focus and put the clients on the pedestal and return to being commercially driven. After all this approach worked back in the day!
Management of GA or Regional companies need to have a sleeves up, ties off and supportive approach.
Demountable buildings may not be as flash as the city and will likely see some jump (please be HR)but will serve to galvanise those that remain.
Maybe a good time to drop the corporate image focus and put the clients on the pedestal and return to being commercially driven. After all this approach worked back in the day!