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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:33
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Just got SMS that my MEL-BNE flight flight Mon morning is cancelled. So they've pulled the trigger on tomorrow's flights.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:36
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Tara Reid on 60 minutes has just drilled AJ he had nothing
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:37
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From Leigh Howard's twitr...

FWA have asked parties to give submissions on the curious aspect of how to provide notice of a suspension (427(3)). Indicative?
Touching every piece of wood right now... but this sounds promising.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:40
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Escalation

It seems to me that Q has made a mountain out of a molehill through a feedback loop of positive reinforcement using solely its own actions. This could be explained by intention or incompetence.

I start with the premise that the first significant impacts on schedule reliability and thus customers were as a result of the half a dozen grounded a/c two weeks ago.

This then impacted bookings, to the extent that yesterday's decision was seen to be justified.

The first grounding was blamed in the media on "60,000 man hours" of maintenance backlog, or 360 man months. Is this realistic for a fleet of 108 a/c? I have no idea how the minor industrial action taken by ALAEA to this point could result in such a backlog.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:40
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That is a good question where IS Oliva???
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:41
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Maintain the rage! AJ and LC could be gone very very soon!!!!!!!
Unfortunately dont think so.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:47
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and i thought it was just an irish joke?

Just saw the 60 minutes thing. Reminded me of the joke about the catholic who converts to become a Protestant on his death bed, because he would "rather it be one of theirs than one of ours that has to pass on!"

Seems to me AJ is convinced it(QF) has to go and he would rather it be him who screws it over rather than the unions!

He just doesn't make sense.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:48
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Fingers Crossed

Hopefully they will rule in favour of a "Suspension" rather than "Termination."

What would be the repercussions on Qantas if this happens?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:53
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Just got SMS that my MEL-BNE flight flight Mon morning is cancelled.
You can re route on to other QF group services, get them to book you MEL-AKL-BNE on Jetconnect.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:55
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If you think that SP and Co are your saviours then you need your head read. They have got nothing!
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:56
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Blow In

Ya know what! I am not a racist person , but I am really sick to death of this country being slowly f#%$*d to death by Blow In's and cheap imported **** that has already crippled our manufacturing!!

Joyce and who ever is behind him should be ashamd and piss off back to wherever they came from and if they are from this country go buy a .38 and blow their brains out!!!! Our kids are in really in trouble if this crap continues!! The picture is way bigger than this fiasco.

The engineers have done jack **** industrial action wise! You reckon I am going to be the perfect employee while this arsehole is in power if Qantas survives??

Go home Joyce you ********! The damage cannot be repaired.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:59
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Judging by the info from Leigh Howard, I'd bet on a 120 day suspension.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 10:59
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A few things to watch:
Share dumping tomorrow.
QFF Points purchasing (dumping) tomorrow.
Virgin re-offer of QFF Gold and + recognition.
Qantas enticement for Business Flyers to return to the fold.
The NEXT Australian Iconic Airline.

Interesting times.....
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:14
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if this question seems a bit simple, then im sorry, but why are the governments involved in the hearing? Also, if the governments are allowed to make submissions, why then arent the other states represented?

ive been out of the country for a while, so this all seems a mess (the FWA hearing i mean).
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:16
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Hopefully they will rule in favour of a "Suspension" rather than "Termination."

What would be the repercussions on Qantas if this happens?
You hope for something that you don't understand?
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:19
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Termination or suspension, do you think anyone will do overtime ?.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:20
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A few things to watch:
Share dumping tomorrow.
QFF Points purchasing (dumping) tomorrow.
Virgin re-offer of QFF Gold and + recognition.
Qantas enticement for Business Flyers to return to the fold.
Share effect marginal.
QFF Point effect - nil
DJ benefit from QFF Gold + = next to nil
QF rewarding Gold+ , possible.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:24
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Termination or suspension, do you think anyone will do overtime ?
There may be those that want to build up their reserves before being finally turfed out.

Either way, the staff have been totally disengaged by management. I guess we won't be seeing anymore staff engagement surveys or doing anymore of those waste of time mandatory customer service "pass the balls" courses.

Basically, QANTAS as we know it is dead, and when it gets back in the air, it will be a flying carcass. Just the way AJ/LC want it. They can then discard that carcass and bring in jq. The only problem is, when the funds run out, and Pacific Asia fianlly falls over, how will jq pay for itself? It won't matter, AJ/LC will be long gone.
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:26
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from Fair Work Australia: The Federal Government has submitted that the Unions have not submitted that they seek resolution [and support termination -- no union action permitted, no company action permitted]

The state of Queensland has also just argued that Industrial Action be terminated, not suspended - which would cease all company and any Union strike action
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Old 30th Oct 2011, 11:27
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You can re route on to other QF group services, get them to book you MEL-AKL-BNE on Jetconnect.
I punted and grabbed a Virgin ticket last night, now can refund my QF and claim the rest of the Virgin ticket.
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