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Just got an email from the ASX detailing the full doody...
Fair dinkum
Apparently I'm going to be getting a dividend in the next 5 years. Also good to read how the staff are going to deliver a wonderful product and have me in raptures with my fantastic connections onto BA to Europe.
All this when I just found out that my 40 year LSL trip has been sucked back off me because I didn't use it within 5 years of retiring.
And Capt Cloudbuster you reckon you just had to laugh...
Fair dinkum
Apparently I'm going to be getting a dividend in the next 5 years. Also good to read how the staff are going to deliver a wonderful product and have me in raptures with my fantastic connections onto BA to Europe.
All this when I just found out that my 40 year LSL trip has been sucked back off me because I didn't use it within 5 years of retiring.
And Capt Cloudbuster you reckon you just had to laugh...
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ODE To Management
‘I am an Army of One’.
This story has been doing the rounds for eons, so I thought of a new twist that is appropriate in our day and age. Naturally, this is not aimed at any specific organisation or person, merely some thoughts and reasoning swirling through my mind……
This is the story of the story of the modern day CEO
‘I am an Army of One’
I am an army of One - A rogue from Cuckoo land, a miniature statue of a man in the business of wrecking airlines, I am a one man army.
For years I was a loyal soldier in a now defunct airline army. Now I fight my own war.
My staff used to feel valued and respected. Now they know they are mere fodder.
My workforce used to be enthused, loyal and proactive. Now they are downtrodden, mere numbers and liabilities, they are a hiccup upon the road to business success, a blight on profit and a skidmark on our asset sheet. They must be exploited through legal loopholes and to this end I dedicate my resources.
My staff used to give their maximum, enjoy a fair days pay for a fair days work, as well as enjoy union protection. Now they will suffer punishment at my hands for no greater reason than industrial greed.
I am an army of One.
I used to maintain sound business ethics, check myself against a moral compass, have empathy for those less fortunate. Now I obfuscate, lie and deceive, my sole purpose of living each day is based upon "greed greed greed". My urge to be wealthy at any cost, and my desire for this is insatiable, my love of self above the care of others is immeasurable. I used to pat kittens and make cups of tea for the elderly. Now, I will skin a cat to turn a dollar, and refuse to waste money on green tea for the elderly who add no tangible monetary value to life.
I used to try to honestly display facts, figures and business accuracy. Now I seek the most devious, unconscionable avenue to hide the truth, deceive the masses and persuade the gullible. Cash is my king, money is my god, and my wealth is my focus in life.
I used to lead by example, step up to the plate, act like a man. Now I hide behind bank statements, rely upon the latest electronic security systems to protect me at night, gutlessly hide my true sexuality. I am no longer strong but I am weak, I am no longer a leader I am a loser, I am no longer a man rather I am a mere shell of a true man.
I am an army of One.
I used to consider loyalty, skill, and an innovative and coherent workforce as being something of value and a good business foundation. Now I would rather slash and burn my workforce, thumb my nose at customer service, safety and reputation. I used to view on time performance as a service to the customer, now I view it as a method to receive a personal bonus. I used to find value in keeping share options high, now I will destroy my empire to make a quick sale and earn massive profits in the process. Once upon a time I used to lay the turd, now I simply attempt to polish it into something it is not.
I am an army of One.
I used to be an honest man, a man of integrity, a man with humble background, a man whose parents could be proud of. Now I would sell those same parents to make a quid, and I find honesty and integrity to be over rated and unprofitable. I used to make mistakes and admit to being imperfect. Now I cover up those same mistakes, apply a layer of lies and deceit to them and blame it on one of my soldiers who will take the fall willingly.
I used to take pride in my workforce, the colour of their uniform, the appearance of my aircraft and the strength of my brand. Now all I see is additional expenses, a spread sheet that needs to be trimmed, an avenue I must destroy to increase my overall wealth. I used to promote positive change, improvement in processes and expressions of view. Now I insist on my people being mushrooms, footstools and compliant servants.
I am an army of One.
I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that my misguided leadership, indifference and disrespect will make me rich beyond my boyhood dreams. I am the ferryman, and my workforce is going to pay.
When I make redundant more pilots than the rest, pilots that are overpaid and a burden to my bottom dollar - I make you pay.
When my under-resourced staff bases and soon to be over-worked DEC’s keep pilots downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I am making you pay.
When over-booked customers are denied boarding, when you pay for a service with one coloured tail and get systematically assigned to her sister tail - I will make you pay.
When you force pilots, who have waited 12 years to become captains, to be FOs again wearing a different uniform - I make you pay.
When an engine explodes I will apportion my pilot’s credit publicly for their ability to save the day, but privately I will be plotting to crush you and violate your overpaid existence - I will make you pay.
When I outwardly and publicly blame frontline workers for the mismanagement, incompetence, theatrics and spin of the executive team - I make you pay.
My management team and spin specialists speak for me, but I always act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the shareholders that made me. Are you listening? This mercenary …… has only a small amount of time left with this company, but I am going to go out with all guns blazing. I will cut, shred, retrench, and destroy the workforce. I will fumigate the halls that are filled with union support, I will make it my mission, to outwit, outlast and outsource every breathing element of the organisation. I am a one man money making machine and human wrecking ball hell bent on lining my wallet to excess, I will not tolerate resistance, and I will not be swayed from my reasoning. I will be victorious.
I am a one army, I am a CEO.
This story has been doing the rounds for eons, so I thought of a new twist that is appropriate in our day and age. Naturally, this is not aimed at any specific organisation or person, merely some thoughts and reasoning swirling through my mind……
This is the story of the story of the modern day CEO
‘I am an Army of One’
I am an army of One - A rogue from Cuckoo land, a miniature statue of a man in the business of wrecking airlines, I am a one man army.
For years I was a loyal soldier in a now defunct airline army. Now I fight my own war.
My staff used to feel valued and respected. Now they know they are mere fodder.
My workforce used to be enthused, loyal and proactive. Now they are downtrodden, mere numbers and liabilities, they are a hiccup upon the road to business success, a blight on profit and a skidmark on our asset sheet. They must be exploited through legal loopholes and to this end I dedicate my resources.
My staff used to give their maximum, enjoy a fair days pay for a fair days work, as well as enjoy union protection. Now they will suffer punishment at my hands for no greater reason than industrial greed.
I am an army of One.
I used to maintain sound business ethics, check myself against a moral compass, have empathy for those less fortunate. Now I obfuscate, lie and deceive, my sole purpose of living each day is based upon "greed greed greed". My urge to be wealthy at any cost, and my desire for this is insatiable, my love of self above the care of others is immeasurable. I used to pat kittens and make cups of tea for the elderly. Now, I will skin a cat to turn a dollar, and refuse to waste money on green tea for the elderly who add no tangible monetary value to life.
I used to try to honestly display facts, figures and business accuracy. Now I seek the most devious, unconscionable avenue to hide the truth, deceive the masses and persuade the gullible. Cash is my king, money is my god, and my wealth is my focus in life.
I used to lead by example, step up to the plate, act like a man. Now I hide behind bank statements, rely upon the latest electronic security systems to protect me at night, gutlessly hide my true sexuality. I am no longer strong but I am weak, I am no longer a leader I am a loser, I am no longer a man rather I am a mere shell of a true man.
I am an army of One.
I used to consider loyalty, skill, and an innovative and coherent workforce as being something of value and a good business foundation. Now I would rather slash and burn my workforce, thumb my nose at customer service, safety and reputation. I used to view on time performance as a service to the customer, now I view it as a method to receive a personal bonus. I used to find value in keeping share options high, now I will destroy my empire to make a quick sale and earn massive profits in the process. Once upon a time I used to lay the turd, now I simply attempt to polish it into something it is not.
I am an army of One.
I used to be an honest man, a man of integrity, a man with humble background, a man whose parents could be proud of. Now I would sell those same parents to make a quid, and I find honesty and integrity to be over rated and unprofitable. I used to make mistakes and admit to being imperfect. Now I cover up those same mistakes, apply a layer of lies and deceit to them and blame it on one of my soldiers who will take the fall willingly.
I used to take pride in my workforce, the colour of their uniform, the appearance of my aircraft and the strength of my brand. Now all I see is additional expenses, a spread sheet that needs to be trimmed, an avenue I must destroy to increase my overall wealth. I used to promote positive change, improvement in processes and expressions of view. Now I insist on my people being mushrooms, footstools and compliant servants.
I am an army of One.
I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that my misguided leadership, indifference and disrespect will make me rich beyond my boyhood dreams. I am the ferryman, and my workforce is going to pay.
When I make redundant more pilots than the rest, pilots that are overpaid and a burden to my bottom dollar - I make you pay.
When my under-resourced staff bases and soon to be over-worked DEC’s keep pilots downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I am making you pay.
When over-booked customers are denied boarding, when you pay for a service with one coloured tail and get systematically assigned to her sister tail - I will make you pay.
When you force pilots, who have waited 12 years to become captains, to be FOs again wearing a different uniform - I make you pay.
When an engine explodes I will apportion my pilot’s credit publicly for their ability to save the day, but privately I will be plotting to crush you and violate your overpaid existence - I will make you pay.
When I outwardly and publicly blame frontline workers for the mismanagement, incompetence, theatrics and spin of the executive team - I make you pay.
My management team and spin specialists speak for me, but I always act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the shareholders that made me. Are you listening? This mercenary …… has only a small amount of time left with this company, but I am going to go out with all guns blazing. I will cut, shred, retrench, and destroy the workforce. I will fumigate the halls that are filled with union support, I will make it my mission, to outwit, outlast and outsource every breathing element of the organisation. I am a one man money making machine and human wrecking ball hell bent on lining my wallet to excess, I will not tolerate resistance, and I will not be swayed from my reasoning. I will be victorious.
I am a one army, I am a CEO.
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Mr. Joyce, instead of doing a roo cull, how about look at TE. Going gangbusters without needing to go offshore, happy staff, happy airline, happy profits. The reason Mr. Joyce? A great CEO, who appreciates his staff, really knows his stuff, and it shows. Sadly QF has not enjoyed the same luxury. Mr. Joyce, you have underestimated the power of your staff, and I suspect are just about to find out, how much.
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A message from Samantha Taranto - Building a Stronger Qantas
Today Alan Joyce announced the Qantas Group’s 5 year plan to transform our International business. I am writing to you to highlight the changes that will have an impact on our department.
Our aim is to be one of the world’s best premium airlines, setting global standards for long haul travel, while delivering attractive financial returns.
As I am sure you know, the economic sustainability of Qantas International is critical to the whole Qantas Group, however, it has suffered significant financial losses and a substantial decline in market share. These financial losses have occurred due to the significant deregulation of the Australian market, Australia’s geographical location, an influx of competition and a cost base that is higher than our competitors.
Qantas International lost around $200 million in Financial Year 10/11. If we stand still and do nothing about the problems we face with this part of our business, the ultimate outcome will be the closure of our division.
Our five year plan has the objective, first, of returning Qantas International to profitability in the short term. In five years, the Qantas flying businesses, both domestic and international combined, will exceed the cost of capital on a sustainable basis.
The plan
Opening gateways to the world.
From April 2012, we will expand our partnership with British Airways. This will see the consolidation of our Qantas flights to London through Singapore on our A380s. We will also partner with British Airways to fly onwards from Bangkok and Hong Kong to London. This is part of our strategy to reduce loss-making, asset intensive flying, while continuing to provide great connections to Europe.
For Australian based International Cabin Crew flying on either our A380 or B747 fleet from April next year the only Qantas flights operating to London will be on the A380 via Singapore. As a result Australian based cabin crew will no longer be slipping in London on a planned basis.
In addition to the changes, in April we also will commence operating the Singapore-Frankfurt-Singapore sector by both Cabin Crew UK (CCUK) and Australian based crew. This will be determined on a bid period basis dependant upon resources and will assist in improving the profitability of this route.
For our crew based in London employed by Cabin Crew UK (CCUK) this plan will see the destinations you fly change. You will now be flying to Singapore (twice daily A380 services) and also Frankfurt, which may fluctuate on a bid period basis dependant upon resources. Crew will no longer slip in Bangkok or Hong Kong as these services will now be operated by our code share partner British Airways.
In April our Sydney to Buenos Aires route will be replaced with Sydney Santiago. Santiago is a hub city for booming South America, as well as an important destination for Australian business.
As a result of these flying reductions, we require 240 fewer International Cabin Crew than we currently have. Due to the voluntary redundancy package offered earlier this year, where 337 crew submitted a final expression of interest, we are not currently in a position where any crew member will lose their employment as a result of these changes.
Some of the other group strategies that do not directly impact you include:
Growing with Asia.
The opening of a new premium branded airline based in Asia and also creating a Jetstar Japan Franchise.
Being best for global travellers.
We’re spending nearly $400 million on benefits for our Qantas International customers including new lounges, A380 standard product and improving our loyalty proposition.
Building a strong, viable business.
This includes ordering 110 A320s, deferring six A380s to Financial year 2019 (this will reduce the capital invested), nine reconfiguring B744s and retiring four B744s.
As you can see there are many changes needed to transform our international division and many of you will be unaffected by these. However, some of you may be affected. What I can confirm is that while we are seeing reductions on our London services, we still have considerable destinations in order for you to build your roster.
I know many of you bid for trips to London and Frankfurt in order to visit family and friends. The changes to London and Frankfurt flying are eight months away and this will give you time to consider how these changes are going to affect your access to friends and family in the UK. For the next six months we will open opportunities for all Australian based crew to take Special Leave without pay and join our London base on a two year secondment.
We have two A380s arriving later this year and will open opportunities for all International Cabin Crew to transfer to the A380 in both our Melbourne and Sydney bases on the original transfer terms outlined in EBA8.
We closed the Final Expressions of Interest for Voluntary Redundancy earlier this month and while we do not require any more crew to leave our department, I understand that some people’s decision not to submit an Expression of Interest may have changed as a result of these announcements. For this reason, from tomorrow until 1 September 2011, we will open the opportunity for crew to submit a Final EOI to take redundancy.
I fully support this strategic direction. It will absolutely transform our business. These changes will help us become a sustainable, profitable business, which in turn provides job security.
If you would like to understand the finer details of our plan, your management team will be holding information sessions in all of our International crew bases as well as Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Bangkok and Singapore. Please try and attend one of these sessions or contact anyone in the management team with your questions.
The strategic changes that we’re embarking on are just the beginning of a lengthy process that will see us as a profitable division of the Qantas Group.
Cabin Crew have always been critical to the success of Qantas with the automation of our booking processes and airport experience, this is even more the case. As a group, you are resilient, flexible and have tremendous pride in working for Qantas.
As we move through our plan, I really need your support. You are the key to customer loyalty and without loyal customers our plan will not succeed. While some of you may have only worked with us for a short time we have some crew who have dedicated 46 years to our department. During these years there have been significant changes from fleet types to destinations and not to mention product innovation.
I have worked in the Cabin Crew Department for seven years and during this time I have seen that through business change you always put your own concerns aside and care for our customers first. I have complete confidence that you will continue to do this, as we embark on our plan to transform our business.
I hope you can join me for a dedicated crew voice call at 3pm AEST today, or a special London call tomorrow at 1500 London time. An email will follow with the call and upline information session details.
Kind regards
Samantha Taranto
Executive Manager Cabin Crew
Today Alan Joyce announced the Qantas Group’s 5 year plan to transform our International business. I am writing to you to highlight the changes that will have an impact on our department.
Our aim is to be one of the world’s best premium airlines, setting global standards for long haul travel, while delivering attractive financial returns.
As I am sure you know, the economic sustainability of Qantas International is critical to the whole Qantas Group, however, it has suffered significant financial losses and a substantial decline in market share. These financial losses have occurred due to the significant deregulation of the Australian market, Australia’s geographical location, an influx of competition and a cost base that is higher than our competitors.
Qantas International lost around $200 million in Financial Year 10/11. If we stand still and do nothing about the problems we face with this part of our business, the ultimate outcome will be the closure of our division.
Our five year plan has the objective, first, of returning Qantas International to profitability in the short term. In five years, the Qantas flying businesses, both domestic and international combined, will exceed the cost of capital on a sustainable basis.
The plan
Opening gateways to the world.
From April 2012, we will expand our partnership with British Airways. This will see the consolidation of our Qantas flights to London through Singapore on our A380s. We will also partner with British Airways to fly onwards from Bangkok and Hong Kong to London. This is part of our strategy to reduce loss-making, asset intensive flying, while continuing to provide great connections to Europe.
For Australian based International Cabin Crew flying on either our A380 or B747 fleet from April next year the only Qantas flights operating to London will be on the A380 via Singapore. As a result Australian based cabin crew will no longer be slipping in London on a planned basis.
In addition to the changes, in April we also will commence operating the Singapore-Frankfurt-Singapore sector by both Cabin Crew UK (CCUK) and Australian based crew. This will be determined on a bid period basis dependant upon resources and will assist in improving the profitability of this route.
For our crew based in London employed by Cabin Crew UK (CCUK) this plan will see the destinations you fly change. You will now be flying to Singapore (twice daily A380 services) and also Frankfurt, which may fluctuate on a bid period basis dependant upon resources. Crew will no longer slip in Bangkok or Hong Kong as these services will now be operated by our code share partner British Airways.
In April our Sydney to Buenos Aires route will be replaced with Sydney Santiago. Santiago is a hub city for booming South America, as well as an important destination for Australian business.
As a result of these flying reductions, we require 240 fewer International Cabin Crew than we currently have. Due to the voluntary redundancy package offered earlier this year, where 337 crew submitted a final expression of interest, we are not currently in a position where any crew member will lose their employment as a result of these changes.
Some of the other group strategies that do not directly impact you include:
Growing with Asia.
The opening of a new premium branded airline based in Asia and also creating a Jetstar Japan Franchise.
Being best for global travellers.
We’re spending nearly $400 million on benefits for our Qantas International customers including new lounges, A380 standard product and improving our loyalty proposition.
Building a strong, viable business.
This includes ordering 110 A320s, deferring six A380s to Financial year 2019 (this will reduce the capital invested), nine reconfiguring B744s and retiring four B744s.
As you can see there are many changes needed to transform our international division and many of you will be unaffected by these. However, some of you may be affected. What I can confirm is that while we are seeing reductions on our London services, we still have considerable destinations in order for you to build your roster.
I know many of you bid for trips to London and Frankfurt in order to visit family and friends. The changes to London and Frankfurt flying are eight months away and this will give you time to consider how these changes are going to affect your access to friends and family in the UK. For the next six months we will open opportunities for all Australian based crew to take Special Leave without pay and join our London base on a two year secondment.
We have two A380s arriving later this year and will open opportunities for all International Cabin Crew to transfer to the A380 in both our Melbourne and Sydney bases on the original transfer terms outlined in EBA8.
We closed the Final Expressions of Interest for Voluntary Redundancy earlier this month and while we do not require any more crew to leave our department, I understand that some people’s decision not to submit an Expression of Interest may have changed as a result of these announcements. For this reason, from tomorrow until 1 September 2011, we will open the opportunity for crew to submit a Final EOI to take redundancy.
I fully support this strategic direction. It will absolutely transform our business. These changes will help us become a sustainable, profitable business, which in turn provides job security.
If you would like to understand the finer details of our plan, your management team will be holding information sessions in all of our International crew bases as well as Los Angeles, Hong Kong, Bangkok and Singapore. Please try and attend one of these sessions or contact anyone in the management team with your questions.
The strategic changes that we’re embarking on are just the beginning of a lengthy process that will see us as a profitable division of the Qantas Group.
Cabin Crew have always been critical to the success of Qantas with the automation of our booking processes and airport experience, this is even more the case. As a group, you are resilient, flexible and have tremendous pride in working for Qantas.
As we move through our plan, I really need your support. You are the key to customer loyalty and without loyal customers our plan will not succeed. While some of you may have only worked with us for a short time we have some crew who have dedicated 46 years to our department. During these years there have been significant changes from fleet types to destinations and not to mention product innovation.
I have worked in the Cabin Crew Department for seven years and during this time I have seen that through business change you always put your own concerns aside and care for our customers first. I have complete confidence that you will continue to do this, as we embark on our plan to transform our business.
I hope you can join me for a dedicated crew voice call at 3pm AEST today, or a special London call tomorrow at 1500 London time. An email will follow with the call and upline information session details.
Kind regards
Samantha Taranto
Executive Manager Cabin Crew
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It's not Aug 24 yet, round two is yet to come. 
QF domestic is also in for a bit of a revamp.
Cityflyer routes to have expanded frequencies during peak business travel times, JQ to take over less profitable frequencies, after 20:00 and saturday afternoons from 14:00 and sunday mornings before 12:00.
JQ also get non Cityflyer jet routes fulltime (except WA) and operate into Canberra for the first time to HBA,OOL & TSV.
AYQ will remain the only non Cityflyer route ops by QF for the time being.
Redunancies as announced, you were lucky to get away with 1,000, the initial figure was around 3,500.
QF domestic is also in for a bit of a revamp.
Cityflyer routes to have expanded frequencies during peak business travel times, JQ to take over less profitable frequencies, after 20:00 and saturday afternoons from 14:00 and sunday mornings before 12:00.
JQ also get non Cityflyer jet routes fulltime (except WA) and operate into Canberra for the first time to HBA,OOL & TSV.
AYQ will remain the only non Cityflyer route ops by QF for the time being.
Redunancies as announced, you were lucky to get away with 1,000, the initial figure was around 3,500.
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As someone asked ... but no one has answered ....
What happened to the 787s?
787s won't save QANTAS more like one of the main problems
.
Qantas has finally succumbed to the 80's policy of focussing on your CORE business and making your business more efficient by reducing staff and services.
A lot of Australian companies failed under this flawed policy imported from the Harvard business school. The rest of the world just looked on as Australia committed suicide with this stupidity and now we are going to TAX carbon dioxide to save the planet.
Definitely nothing wrong with Australia just ask our competitors
.
What happened to the 787s?
787s won't save QANTAS more like one of the main problems
.Qantas has finally succumbed to the 80's policy of focussing on your CORE business and making your business more efficient by reducing staff and services.
A lot of Australian companies failed under this flawed policy imported from the Harvard business school. The rest of the world just looked on as Australia committed suicide with this stupidity and now we are going to TAX carbon dioxide to save the planet
.Definitely nothing wrong with Australia just ask our competitors
.
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Notwithstanding my support for the Qantas pilots and the Qantas Lame's ,let's not forget that Qantas domestic has a whole swag of s*ab pilots who having s*abbed once would have no hesitation in s*abbing again if an A380 command was on offer!
I would also suggest that the Lame's might face a similar situation!
I would tread very circumspectly if I were you!
But, you know, having come through the hard times like Teresa Green and others, what would we know?
I mean, you blokes are so much smarter than we were, aren't you?!
I would also suggest that the Lame's might face a similar situation!
I would tread very circumspectly if I were you!
But, you know, having come through the hard times like Teresa Green and others, what would we know?
I mean, you blokes are so much smarter than we were, aren't you?!
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short flights long nights
So if I count correctly, Qantas now has 8 international routes left. How long will it take to get rid of them as well, and just give the whole lot to pornstar?
I fear the end is very very close
How long will it take to get rid of them as well, and just give the whole lot to pornstar?I fear the end is very very close
Joyce Shoots Himself In Foot
No link, saw and heard a minute ago on ABC1 interview with Alan Joyce. Joyce specifically said : he is going to set up airline in Asia to capitalise on Asian markets. he is going to use Qantas expertise as his competitive advantage, and he will repatriate the profits from this to Australian shareholders.
I can state categorically that this is shear lunacy.
Qantas has no "expertise" that translates to competitive advantage in Asia.
Qantas will not be allowed by Asian Governments to repatriate profits to Australia for the benefit of Australian shareholders.
This is terminal stupidity.
I can state categorically that this is shear lunacy.
Qantas has no "expertise" that translates to competitive advantage in Asia.
Qantas will not be allowed by Asian Governments to repatriate profits to Australia for the benefit of Australian shareholders.
This is terminal stupidity.
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So let me get this straight - if I want to fly MEL-LHR, I either have to go via Sydney, or change planes and carriers in BKK.
Seriously, what moron thought of this?
The few people who were prepared to fly Qantas in Melbourne will now be thinking twice......you have just alienated the population of Australias second biggest city
It is truly staggering the way these poeple think
Seriously, what moron thought of this?
The few people who were prepared to fly Qantas in Melbourne will now be thinking twice......you have just alienated the population of Australias second biggest city
It is truly staggering the way these poeple think
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Dear Alan...
Corporate social responsibility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your's sincerely,
Fuel-Off
...I feel an Irish bowel movement coming...
Corporate social responsibility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your's sincerely,
Fuel-Off
...I feel an Irish bowel movement coming...
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Having flown BA in JC
in the last 6 month i must say QF really wants to downgrade all their products. this surely is the a step in the wrong direction. another excuse to fly anyone else but QF
short flights long nights
where did you hear that, OhForSure??
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Agree completely. The various govt's will allow capital to come in , but the minute you want to take profits out watch the consequences. Even this lot seem to have forgotten their own lessons in Vietnam.
Maybe AJ or BB should set up an office there and experience what some of their own underlings did recently. Bangkok Hilton will look appealing.
Complete idiots who think they are the smartest guys in the room.
This will end in tears for everyone but them.
Maybe AJ or BB should set up an office there and experience what some of their own underlings did recently. Bangkok Hilton will look appealing.
Complete idiots who think they are the smartest guys in the room.
This will end in tears for everyone but them.