AUGUST 24th - QANTAS

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A frequent flyer program without an airline.

Genius.

RIP Qantas.

[simsalabim]

Santiago!! wow ! What an innovator ,what a genius ! Australia to Santiago! I can't believe it wasn't thought of before. The millions of people just waiting for this announcement are dancing in the streets.Eureka!

[V-Jet]

Thanks Boundary Layer.

I've put better PPT presentations together for Council DA's. The EP's PPT person must have been given an extra assignment yesterday before they went home.

99% waffle. 0.8% Jet* and 0.2% QF.

Leprechauns have little minds to match their stature.

Amateurville. Give me a week, Flight Internationals classified contact details and I could get you a better CEO. And pay less than $1m.

I'm off to join the spontaneous street party that erupted when it was announced we are off to Santiago instead of London/Europe.

Noted 380's are going to LHR. What about FRA/CDG/ATH/FCO etc etc etc.

[1me]

Snivelling little fool...

How can you return Qantas International to "profitability" by setting up more competition especially in markets we operate in?

Like I said, management is not incompetent they are doing exactly as they have planned. The demise is well underway and is nearly perfected.

It's Qantas Jim, but not as we know it..

[griffin one]

QF to SIN BA codeshare to LHR
QF to BKK BA codeshare to LHR
QF to KL MAS to LHR

AT LEAST WHEN YOU FLY EMIRATES OR QATAR THATS WHO YOU FLY ON

FANTASTIC PUT ALL YOUR PREMIUM PUNTERS ON AN A380 THEN STICK THEM ON TIRED OLD 744,S THAT DESPERATELY NEED RECONFIGS.

JUST KILLED THE KANGAROO ROUTE.

[ohallen]

Not sure that is correct. A380 goes to LHR via Singapore.

It is only 747 via HK or Bangkok that terminate and hand passengers over to BA.

[griffin one]

Well at least they will be on 777,s out of KL

[Teal]

Here are some links to the eight separate media releases today:

New International Strategy
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207411.pdf

Jetstar Japan
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207428.pdf

Building a stonger Qantas (Investor presentation)
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207437.pdf

CEO speach (Building a stronger Qantas)
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207412.pdf

Fleet Order
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207415.pdf

Enhanced partnership with BA
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207416.pdf

New lounges, 747 upgrades
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207425.pdf

Santiago (!)
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asx...f/01207418.pdf

The investors seem to like it.......so far

[Animalclub]

Seems odd to me but we have the largest Greek populated city outside of Greece yet we don't fly to Athens!!! And how many Italians and Australians of Italian descent live here!!!

[Captain Gidday]

You don't often hear Retro presentations like that in the media any more! Classic. The combination of ABC News low technology and The Accent made it sound just like RG Menzies announcing the war.

Now you know exactly how your parents [or perhaps grandparents] felt as they huddled around the wireless in September 1939.
[No disrespect meant to Menzies. He at least had something important to say]

Al forgot to mention the Qantas decals to be applied over the BOAC logos in BKK and HKG. Bring back the Comet IVs.
Everything old is new again!

[cart_elevator]

It does state in the presentation for the ASX that we will no longer fly HKG-LHR or BKK-LHR. And only the A380 flying to LHR via SIN. Thats a lot of excess crew we will have, particularly considering there are no new destinations (Santiago is just replacing Beunos Aries).

[teresa green]

You poor buggers, he is playing with you. This little f%$kwit is playing games with all of you. Other than he is heading to Asia with QF, what is he actually saying? Either you drive a A320, or piss off? Either you go to JQ (and they are desperately short of pilots on both A320 and A330, my young bloke is sick of hiding from them, just to get a break) or piss off? And now he is going to let you stew until Aug 24, the day of the 89 disaster. And you think he does not know that? Blokes and girls with families, mortgages, commitments, and he is stringing you out and loving it.

[my oleo is extended]

Couldn't stop laughing! The combination of ABC News low technology and The Accent made it sound just like RG Menzies announcing the war.

I thought it mas more like a 70's porn flick ! All you needed was some additional cheesy music, some lime green bedsheets and AJ in a pair of purple flared pants and it would have been complete !! Hang on, that sounds more like a former Ambassador ?

[noip]

Given that Mainline being unprofitable was the supposed reason for all this, how does any of what has been said return Mainline to profitability?

(I am supposing for a minute that the assertions regarding Mainline are, in fact, true)


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[Sunfish]

Qantas is going to get slaughtered in the marketplace. Each one of your "partners" is going to hack off a little chunk of you and eat it raw every day - you will bleed to death.

You poor suckers are also going to be force fed the "business transformation" snake oil. You can read it in the investors powerpoint BS.

I think your Board will go for another Two years before the penny drops, although it may take Three or Four if the major investors accept the "difficult business conditions" excuse.

To put it another way, outsourcing, alliances, domestic Qantas operations, contract operations in Western Australia, Qantas International, Jetstar domestic, Jetstar International, Jetstar Asia and the new Premium Asian airline are going to leave the Boards and managements heads spinning.

This cannot and will not work because the whole is guaranteed to be less than the sum of its parts.

[Bazzamundi]

No more training park drills boys. Ref has just blown time on. Playing first grade now.

[FCMC]

Not one mention of 787s and where they will be used?????

[maggotdriver]

Tell me again why AIPA stopped the QANTAS SALE ACT case? Now QANTAS will set up another carrier to eat itself, this time from outside the carcass like a hyena instead of from the inside like a parasite.

Jetconnect was and is false and misleading conduct and should have been stopped at the outset, now it is just normal practice!

This in no way implies anything negative to employees of the other airlines that are part of 'the group'. It's just that it is such a nice feeling to be undermined by;
a) the idiots you work for, and
b) the economic rationalist wenkars in Government who can't understand the paradigm for competition has to be correct on BOTH sides of the equation. Government run and sponsored airlines are NOT in any way shape or form part of a level playing field in any market, particularly when bolstered by SEZ's. Free economic zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wake up!

Where's that fcuking dog.....

[my oleo is extended]

Given that Mainline being unprofitable was the supposed reason for all this, how does any of what has been said return Mainline to profitability?

The little fella can only say that 'reducing the workforce by 1000' will fix the problem. Why doesn't he outline the actual root cause of the alleged 'mainline fiasco' for all to see, including a breakdown of poor management decisions and related issues that have contributed? If you are going to wield an axe, start chopping at the core of the problem. The way the execs are acting you would think that they feel they are immortal, have been filled with divine holy spirit and are some sort of Elliot Ness ? Its time to remove the head of the fish.
Again, a 90 year institute smashed apart by43% in 24 months by a 5 foot human wrecking ball, and the shareholders are happy with this ??? Unbelievable !
Keep polishing that turd AJ.

[wishiwasupthere]

Anyone who has Facebook, it might be worth having a look at the posts on the Qantas FB page in response to todays announcements. Some interesting reading there! A lot of people can see straight through the QF PR spin!!