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Old 1st Jan 2011, 09:44
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sunstate engineers

Any word on whats going on with the sunstate engineers? Did they sack the 6 engineers or are they back at work?
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Old 1st Jan 2011, 09:58
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Read the thread bloke. I answered the question only last year (yesterday).
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Old 2nd Jan 2011, 10:23
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Thumbs up Bobo

With a name like that you could be QLink manangement. Can you enlighten us with any rumours/facts.
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 18:15
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Steve,

No further news yet?

On the Industrial problems?

Or the Safety problems?

Thank you.
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Old 5th Jan 2011, 22:20
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Sunstate situation

Happy new Year to all,
Rumour update :
1. Cleanering and catering supplier approached to provide turnaround capability in Brisbane.
2. Cockpit door latches to go fully electronic - still nothing wrong with the old ones ! WTF
3. Popsicle 6 still on sabbatical - 8 weeks full pay and counting.
4. Remainder still trying to operate with 1/3 less LAME's
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 03:20
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Thanks for the update. My thoughts are with them. Must be terribly stressful working under such conditions.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 04:34
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2. Cockpit door latches to go fully electronic - still nothing wrong with the old ones ! WTF
Ask the half dozen or so guys who have gone compo with back injuries.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 16:25
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One of the doors could be opened in about three seconds without a paddle pop stick. It was noticeably less secure than the others.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 22:04
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Guys, I feel for you and admire the way you have handled this ordeal.
I offer my support for you and your families in these dark hours.
The clowns that have perpetrated this drama must be bought to justice!
I trust every thoughtful LAME and aviation professional alike offers more than moral support to you and yours.
It's easy to say but stay strong and all power to you and your families.
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Old 6th Jan 2011, 22:56
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Sunstate engineer's

Just a follow up on the previous post. I believe that since the fight started 2 Lame's retired and to date 5 (3 LAME's & 2 AME's) resigned. Including the Popsicle 6, they are operating now operating with 13 less people. HOW ?
Unofficial - one more to go at end of Jan - 14 people down out of 32.

This group of management are directly trying to shut it down, "since the dispute you the engineer's work practices have changed". Of course it's changed they don't have the people to do the work - by company design.

In Response to LAME 2 - CASA have done right by me in the past also. But today I feel they do not have the manpower or the resources to take on any of the big player's. When the media gets involved they find time but usually too late.

If FED SEC has got CASA boss onside then this hopefully will be a step in right direction - however I doubt whether he will get involved in the fight, just to sit on sidelines ensuring procedures followed.

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Old 6th Jan 2011, 23:32
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Rumour has it management are more than happy to have the BNE maintenance shut down.
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 06:37
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Rumour has it management are more than happy to have the BNE maintenance shut down.

pitiful really - what sort of manager allows this to happen to his department ?
The 80 odd turnarounds per day. Sub contractor maintenance.
It is totally disgraceful behavior perpetrated by incompetents.
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 07:43
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Ok, quiet for a while, What are you going to do about it???????
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 07:53
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What are you going to do about it???????
Support Steve P and the ALAEA staff as they direct the operation.

Place spare money into the fighting fund.

What about you Arnold?
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Place spare money into the fighting fund.
Have done that. Just asking a question, that's all
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Rumour has it management are more than happy to have the BNE maintenance shut down.
pitiful really - what sort of manager allows this to happen to his department ?
The 80 odd turnarounds per day. Sub contractor maintenance.
It is totally disgraceful behavior perpetrated by incompetents.
Todays modern manager described perfectly above! Nil concept or understanding of reality, prioritises cost cutting over safety, nil ethics, nil ability to think laterally or think long term, minimal professional management skills or experience, enjoys a Corona at his Executive's chalet on the weekend while sitting by the pool absorbing from the boss words of wisdom, grandeur, depth and alleged knowledge and then absorbing other fluids in his quest to become the next ' executive big player' in the system. Fools.....
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Todays modern manager described perfectly above!
Perhaps a modern manager would like to explain where they are comming from??
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Old 7th Jan 2011, 11:14
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Perhaps a modern manager would like to explain where they are comming from??
Sorry Arnie, they can't. They only understand spreadsheets and dollar symbols. Very limited individuals.
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Old 8th Jan 2011, 02:30
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The modern manager

To be fair The Modern Manager is always ready to listen to your new EBA Proposal.
As long as it's less dollars than their original withdrawn proposal.
Doesn't involve back pay of wages,fines, Super or any other increase in conditions that the Engineers might dream up. Quite simple really.
You people are obviously taking this whole thing to personally.

Good luck with your next round of pay dockings.
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Parcus Procurator

GLBS, Thank you for your timely and inspiring first post. Excellent work.

I am warmed by your positive managerial input and your willingness to speak out on behalf of the ‘modern manager’.
Today's 'parcus procurator' in aviation normally comes with an accounting degree, minimal life experience, no people skills and a determination to become rich and powerful at the expense of morality and safety. I suspect GLBS that you feel right at home among your management fraternity in this context.

The modern manager’s salary is excessive, unrealistic and most of all embedded with financial incentives to rape and pillage his subordinates. This modern managers salary will no longer comprise large fat bonuses for all to scrutinize but instead his salary will be extremely healthy and his bonuses built into the salary in the form of ‘sign on fees’, ‘retention payments’, ‘indexed performance top up’ and other swanky terminology. Again, GLBS I salute your ‘coming out’.

The modern manager in aviation will also likely have experience from a consulting firm in the private sector, be related by blood to the internal hierarchy within the organization and be an accomplished ‘rimmer’. Once more I commend you GLBS for having obtained these necessary elements as you have certainly sucked hard for them.

Finally to all my management friends I wish you all the best as you daily monitor your excel spreadsheets while wearing your silk ties, sip Earl Gray from bone china cups, nod and wink at each other as you recline on your Italian leather chairs while perched around a large oval mahogany table and as you ‘oil up’ in preparation for your next round of ‘nude twister’.

Game on……….
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