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The Last Post should sound out resolutely every time that Worthless and that 'homeless woman' hairstyle grace the TV screen !! That hairstyle is the epitome of a 'lost cause', the reflection of a hairstyle that has run it's race, cannot be saved and has passed away.
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Sorry all been at meetings all arvo and just got the last kid to bed. Time for a few emails and to check in on Pprune. I think there are a few different opinions about today's press stunt. I have my opinion too which I am happy to state but as the union Secretary I can say that it is disappointing that anyone would assume that our union has anythng to do with this. It's unfair to term something like you have Cargo744 by saying you would headbutt our union at the moment. Our union has no knoweldge of this event.
From my own perspective, I would be absolutely disgusted if any of our members played the last post during a work stoppage. RSL permission would be required to play it anywhere and I think it is appropriate at the footy because the day is endorsed by the RSL. The ANZAC day match teaches our kids about the history of our country, all those fine young blokes who gave their lives so we can have what we do today.
Our last original WW1 digger died 2 years ago, he was honoured in Parliment by the Prime Minister. His grandson was ALAEA Vice Preident Wesley Bell. Qantas would not allow Wesley to go to his Grandfathers funeral without dropping pay becasue of a dispute about how bereavement leave is applied. They don't care about the last post being played or our heritaige. They are just greedy opportunists, if it even was played, the PA mics at Tulla are in manager's offices.
So why wouldn't I run around all day defending this rubbish? Becasue it would then be on air twice as long. Qantas can feel like they are making headway by having a great day in the press and congrats to all involved, the spokesmodel, Neil Mitchell, Alan, Tony and the team. Maybe they should be looking after business instead. I hear the engine that failed on the weekend with the Sprinboks onboard was over it's maximum number of allowable cycles before maintenance and that very special mod it required. Anyone care to ring 3AW tomorrow with a rumour that JL required an engine change after 420 cycles however it blew up one hour out of J'Burg on cycle number 431?
From my own perspective, I would be absolutely disgusted if any of our members played the last post during a work stoppage. RSL permission would be required to play it anywhere and I think it is appropriate at the footy because the day is endorsed by the RSL. The ANZAC day match teaches our kids about the history of our country, all those fine young blokes who gave their lives so we can have what we do today.
Our last original WW1 digger died 2 years ago, he was honoured in Parliment by the Prime Minister. His grandson was ALAEA Vice Preident Wesley Bell. Qantas would not allow Wesley to go to his Grandfathers funeral without dropping pay becasue of a dispute about how bereavement leave is applied. They don't care about the last post being played or our heritaige. They are just greedy opportunists, if it even was played, the PA mics at Tulla are in manager's offices.
So why wouldn't I run around all day defending this rubbish? Becasue it would then be on air twice as long. Qantas can feel like they are making headway by having a great day in the press and congrats to all involved, the spokesmodel, Neil Mitchell, Alan, Tony and the team. Maybe they should be looking after business instead. I hear the engine that failed on the weekend with the Sprinboks onboard was over it's maximum number of allowable cycles before maintenance and that very special mod it required. Anyone care to ring 3AW tomorrow with a rumour that JL required an engine change after 420 cycles however it blew up one hour out of J'Burg on cycle number 431?
JL required an engine change after 420 cycles however it blew up one hour out of J'Burg on cycle number 431?
Either the ALAEA or Qantas media will be having a good day tomorrow. It might also rattle CASA's cage too.
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I'll be honest I am bloody angry at the amount of knockers turning up trying to undermine the current struggle. I am however extremely ******* angry now I have heard about the Wesley Bell situation.
If time you greed ridden anti union morons woke up.
If time you greed ridden anti union morons woke up.
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BrissySparky asked:
An employer can effectively refuse to accept the work of an employee when an employee is participating in a PIA ban. The employee must be notified in writing though.
In other news....... Is it legal for a manager to stand down an employee for carrying out protected action... For example, if the employee was using his left hand and that action was approved?
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Thanks ACT Crusader. You're correct! Have just had a look at the Fair Work Act 2009....
Fair Work Act 2009
Fair Work Act 2009
Notice requirements—employer response action
(5) Before an employer engages in employer response action for a proposed enterprise agreement, the employer must:
(a) give written notice of the action to each bargaining representative of an employee who will be covered by the agreement; and
(b) take all reasonable steps to notify the employees who will be covered by the agreement of the action.
(5) Before an employer engages in employer response action for a proposed enterprise agreement, the employer must:
(a) give written notice of the action to each bargaining representative of an employee who will be covered by the agreement; and
(b) take all reasonable steps to notify the employees who will be covered by the agreement of the action.
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Hey Brissy, there's also a section in the Fair Work Act that deals with bans.
Fair Work Act 2009
Fair Work Act 2009
(4) If:
(a) an employee engaged, or engages, in protected industrial action against an employer on a day; and
(b) the industrial action is a partial work ban; and
(c) the employer gives to the employee a written notice stating that, because of the ban:
(i) the employee will not be entitled to any payments; and
(ii) the employer refuses to accept the performance of any work by the employee until the employee is prepared to perform all of his or her normal duties;
then the employee is not entitled to any payments in relation to the period (the industrial action period) referred to in subsection (5).
(a) an employee engaged, or engages, in protected industrial action against an employer on a day; and
(b) the industrial action is a partial work ban; and
(c) the employer gives to the employee a written notice stating that, because of the ban:
(i) the employee will not be entitled to any payments; and
(ii) the employer refuses to accept the performance of any work by the employee until the employee is prepared to perform all of his or her normal duties;
then the employee is not entitled to any payments in relation to the period (the industrial action period) referred to in subsection (5).
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There's more press on the Last Post episode
Outrage over union's Last Post gaffe | Herald Sun
It isn't any clearer though if the incident occurred.
I'm somewhat baffled at the standard of the reporting on this though. The report below mentions pilots, two union reps standing and all during a Fair Work Australia hearing....
http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/ne...oming-surreal/
Outrage over union's Last Post gaffe | Herald Sun
It isn't any clearer though if the incident occurred.
I'm somewhat baffled at the standard of the reporting on this though. The report below mentions pilots, two union reps standing and all during a Fair Work Australia hearing....
Proceedings took a turn toward the surreal during the latest round of negotiations between pilots at Qantas and officials from the airline, with two union representatives standing to observe a minute’s silence while the Last Post was played.
The incident, which occurred during a Fair Work Australia hearing earlier, was branded a “new low” by the furious airline.
The incident, which occurred during a Fair Work Australia hearing earlier, was branded a “new low” by the furious airline.
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whether it's the union or not, my only point has ever been that it just doesn't reflect well on our professionalism and public perception IF these shenanigans have gone on.
SP has confirmed he and the union know nothing about it - which is a relief to hear.
as always, nice to know that a different view gets you immediately branded as a 'union basher' ... glad cooler heads (thanks SP) have prevailed.
SP has confirmed he and the union know nothing about it - which is a relief to hear.
as always, nice to know that a different view gets you immediately branded as a 'union basher' ... glad cooler heads (thanks SP) have prevailed.
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If true that is awesome news!!...3 years too late, but awesome nevertheless..
Now they just need to get rid of AJ & Co and then start the long process of rebuilding this great airline once again!!!!
Now they just need to get rid of AJ & Co and then start the long process of rebuilding this great airline once again!!!!
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Sorry BM1,the club buggery campaign is just startin out.....who do you think smashed our HM brothers.....a world of hurt!
Lock and load boys and girls its gonna get interesting...
Lock and load boys and girls its gonna get interesting...
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Very interesting...
as per Fed Sec's rumour suggestion... "Anyone care to ring 3AW tomorrow with a rumour that JL required an engine change after 420 cycles however it blew up one hour out of J'Burg on cycle number 431?"
So will we see this in the Media tomorrow? Need someone with the ability to make this happen... and see if OW can make that not a Safety issue.
I think most people think CASA will only care if it is 'another' Airline.
Do we know what engine number lit up the sky?
as per Fed Sec's rumour suggestion... "Anyone care to ring 3AW tomorrow with a rumour that JL required an engine change after 420 cycles however it blew up one hour out of J'Burg on cycle number 431?"
So will we see this in the Media tomorrow? Need someone with the ability to make this happen... and see if OW can make that not a Safety issue.
I think most people think CASA will only care if it is 'another' Airline.
Do we know what engine number lit up the sky?
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Farewell and good luck
Just a big thank you to all staff in Brisbane over the last 20+ years.
Sharing H2 over many nights and trying to work together when company schedules too much work - not that they would ever admit to such a thing.
QF execs seem determined to extinguish the shining light which is a LAME with integrity. Who takes it upon himself to ensure the aircraft will get the paying public from Point A to B in the safest way possible. Also the highly trained crew who if something unforseen happens has the required level of experience and training to continue the proud reputation currently held by Q.
Something that has been built up by all past and present employees over many years of dedication and hard work. Something the new CEO will never have as a fly in bonus out type short term contract !
Once again thank you for your friendship and I wish you all the best in keeping the bastards honest.
Redundant Sunnie bunny.
Sharing H2 over many nights and trying to work together when company schedules too much work - not that they would ever admit to such a thing.
QF execs seem determined to extinguish the shining light which is a LAME with integrity. Who takes it upon himself to ensure the aircraft will get the paying public from Point A to B in the safest way possible. Also the highly trained crew who if something unforseen happens has the required level of experience and training to continue the proud reputation currently held by Q.
Something that has been built up by all past and present employees over many years of dedication and hard work. Something the new CEO will never have as a fly in bonus out type short term contract !
Once again thank you for your friendship and I wish you all the best in keeping the bastards honest.
Redundant Sunnie bunny.
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all the best bigdog1,
moving on or retiring, the real loser is the assclowns at sunstate
and your services they will come to regret losing.
hoping fedsec's adverse action claims on them come to fruition.
i'm sure most qf lames are supporting SP on this.
moving on or retiring, the real loser is the assclowns at sunstate
and your services they will come to regret losing.
hoping fedsec's adverse action claims on them come to fruition.
i'm sure most qf lames are supporting SP on this.
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Hey guys,
Just saw AJ on the ABC news talking about getting rid of the dispatching engineer on aircraft transits. Apparently it's "Worlds Best Practice" and modern aircraft don't need them.
Hey, let's see how far and how fast we can push every boundary of the operation, all at the same time. And just for fun, we won't do any risk analysis.
Just saw AJ on the ABC news talking about getting rid of the dispatching engineer on aircraft transits. Apparently it's "Worlds Best Practice" and modern aircraft don't need them.
Hey, let's see how far and how fast we can push every boundary of the operation, all at the same time. And just for fun, we won't do any risk analysis.