Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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guys calm down. We have a dispute with our employer, we have been balloted and voted for industrial action. Action will always result in a propaganda war so don't be dumb and fall for the enemies propaganda.
sit tight, hold tight. The enemy will not win as long as we remain united as a union.
sit tight, hold tight. The enemy will not win as long as we remain united as a union.
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Can't wait until we tell them we're only going to use left handed hammers, only replace the spark plugs and muffler bearings on 737s, only use metric adjustable wrenches, only place orders for striped paint and only replace the dehydrated water tanks on 747s ...
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I reckon we should all take a Bex and lie down..!
Whilst I may not understand every tactic and decision the executive choose, I support them. I pay them to act in my best interests so publicly second guessing everything they advise me to do is counter-productive. If you seek clarification on something go to a rep and ask the question. Simple.
We need to be measured in our response and be prepared to act as necessary. Coming onto forums and bad mouthing leaders or tactics ultimately harms our cause. Stay the course Ladies and Gents!
And Ken, whilst I may not be a surgeon I reckon I know who ultimately has more responsibility (and just quietly... I bet it's not the surgeon!) Pull your head in old boy.
Whilst I may not understand every tactic and decision the executive choose, I support them. I pay them to act in my best interests so publicly second guessing everything they advise me to do is counter-productive. If you seek clarification on something go to a rep and ask the question. Simple.
We need to be measured in our response and be prepared to act as necessary. Coming onto forums and bad mouthing leaders or tactics ultimately harms our cause. Stay the course Ladies and Gents!
And Ken, whilst I may not be a surgeon I reckon I know who ultimately has more responsibility (and just quietly... I bet it's not the surgeon!) Pull your head in old boy.
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I reckon we should all take a Bex and lie down..!
guys calm down.
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Funny thing is, I'd bet that 100% of LAMES could use their non-dexterous hand to carry out their work 100% satisfactorily.... but I'd bet that OW, AJ or any of the rest of them would not be able to use a pen with their non-dexterous hand!
I'd ignore the worked up people questioning today's action.... they are most likely not LAME's or they are bitter previous association exec members.
I'd ignore the worked up people questioning today's action.... they are most likely not LAME's or they are bitter previous association exec members.
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i reacon the various managers running around checking who
stopped work for 1 minute wasted more time than the entire
amount of lames lost time.
speaking of various managers, would be interesting to see exactly
how many of the new managers, especially ops managers are members
and review the rules particularly...
contravenes or fails to observe any lawful resolution, decision or direction of the
Federal Executive of which he had, or ought to have had notice...
stopped work for 1 minute wasted more time than the entire
amount of lames lost time.
speaking of various managers, would be interesting to see exactly
how many of the new managers, especially ops managers are members
and review the rules particularly...
contravenes or fails to observe any lawful resolution, decision or direction of the
Federal Executive of which he had, or ought to have had notice...
$430 million
Just saw a news item that says a 5.3% wage claim by Qantas engineers will cost the company $430 million over 3 yrs!!
Some quick calculations-divide by 3 for 1 year=$143 million,
2000 engineers system wide,thats $71500 pay rise per lame per year.
Hey Steve,tell the management negotiating committe that we will settle for 2% rise per yr for 3 yrs as long as they use the same calculator that they used to feed the media this crap.
Maybe at the next meeting u can take some batteries along to put in their calculator-with the latest engine failure there might be no funds to cover the cost of new batteries!
Some quick calculations-divide by 3 for 1 year=$143 million,
2000 engineers system wide,thats $71500 pay rise per lame per year.
Hey Steve,tell the management negotiating committe that we will settle for 2% rise per yr for 3 yrs as long as they use the same calculator that they used to feed the media this crap.
Maybe at the next meeting u can take some batteries along to put in their calculator-with the latest engine failure there might be no funds to cover the cost of new batteries!
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blubak, No offence intended, but I think there is actually 1500 LAME's. Just goes to show the BS that QF is pushing. If they haven't got the common sense to check their calculations before posting them in the press. What hope have we of them actually making a common sense decision when comes to running QF.
eg A330 or 777 ?????????????????
eg A330 or 777 ?????????????????
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So what's the worst that you (the Exec) could do even if they did?
Expel them?
Wow that would hurt.
They would save themselves $780 a year and still get the benefits of the EBA if they are covered by it.
Expel them?
Wow that would hurt.
They would save themselves $780 a year and still get the benefits of the EBA if they are covered by it.
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Any word on what happened in Perth yesterday? Hope you boys are playing nicely with your new toys..
Must be the only port where a 60 second work stoppage could turn into a hoo haa..
Must be the only port where a 60 second work stoppage could turn into a hoo haa..
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Just saw a news item that says a 5.3% wage claim by Qantas engineers will cost the company $430 million over 3 yrs!!
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5.3% wage claim by Qantas engineers will cost the company $430 million over 3 yrs!!
1600 Engineers. Average salary say 100k
1600 x 100,000 = 160,000,000 or 160 mill
Entire wages bill for 3 years is 160 mill x 3 or $480 million
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Re Perth Hoo Har
Made a few calls west ,and appears that one Lame when asked yes or no if he would be taking industrial action replied he had not made up his mind yet . This I am told took their new manager off guard. Then the Lame asked the Manager for a run down on the Company side of the EBA and was told it was all secret and he had no idea about the current EBA. Then when pushed for a yes or no the Lame "took 5" which upset the their new manager to the point the Lame in question reminded the Manager of the Harassment policy 
Is the Buggery Campaign raising its head again
Made a few calls west ,and appears that one Lame when asked yes or no if he would be taking industrial action replied he had not made up his mind yet . This I am told took their new manager off guard. Then the Lame asked the Manager for a run down on the Company side of the EBA and was told it was all secret and he had no idea about the current EBA. Then when pushed for a yes or no the Lame "took 5"
which upset the their new manager to the point the Lame in question reminded the Manager of the Harassment policy Is the Buggery Campaign raising its head again