Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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According to Business Spectator:
Really? So it's not the 30-something percent QF claim? 
The engineers are asking for a pay rise of close to 16 per cent over three years.
Donkey, I disagree. This tactic has got the dispute back in the public eye with a strong message that the ALAEA does not want to disrupt the travelling public. It re-enforces that the dispute is with QF management.
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well may we say....
oops sorry wrong decade....look I thought it may have been a bit unprofessional at first, but when I read the Qantas response's my opinion has changed ....they should really get someone with more cred's then Olivia.....and I think we all have put the odd screw in with our left hand as sometimes we cannot reach it with the other.Thats what we do improvise,overcome,adapt....thanks BP.....the rim
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Sorry Steve but the left hand and 60 second strike is an own goal. QF management are pathetic but they would be thriving on this announcement. You have just given unjust ammo to Wirthless.
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Cargo,
Oh contraire ... I think it is brilliant ... Steve 1 ... Olivia 0.
Just goes to show how different people view things.
Fair Work never envisaged people with a sense of humour ....
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Oh contraire ... I think it is brilliant ... Steve 1 ... Olivia 0.
Just goes to show how different people view things.
Fair Work never envisaged people with a sense of humour ....
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NOIP... So many have said on here that you want public support and that the public perception is so important. Well this move makes you look like petulant children and plays into the hands of those you seek to persuade. Your union should be smarter than this.
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I sense that the 6 or 7 news outlets who interviewed us today were quite positive and understanding that this has been done to meet a legal requirement. It then gave us further opportunity to discuss the real issues of concern, the obsession of management to take the Aussie out of Qantas.
I've read some of the blog posts on the sites and think it clear that the negative comments are posted by persons who would never be supportive of any union regardless of what was happening. Regardless of what one thinks of the actions, they had to be taken or the ballot validity would lapse.
I think the response from Qantas flushed out the lengths they will go to in order to peddle rubbish. If we have a look at the usual lines -
Qf 32 - The safety of passengers was never an issue
Manilla - The safety of passengers was never an issue
Jetstar groundings - It's not a safety issue
Missed AD's on 738's - It's not a safety issue
Jitcinnict pilots low hours - It's not a safety issue
Sin LAME certifies 52 hours work in one shift - It's not a safety issue
list goes on....
Two LAMEs with 30 years experience each swap hands to do up screws - This is a safety issue that we will have to investigate further.
I've read some of the blog posts on the sites and think it clear that the negative comments are posted by persons who would never be supportive of any union regardless of what was happening. Regardless of what one thinks of the actions, they had to be taken or the ballot validity would lapse.
I think the response from Qantas flushed out the lengths they will go to in order to peddle rubbish. If we have a look at the usual lines -
Qf 32 - The safety of passengers was never an issue
Manilla - The safety of passengers was never an issue
Jetstar groundings - It's not a safety issue
Missed AD's on 738's - It's not a safety issue
Jitcinnict pilots low hours - It's not a safety issue
Sin LAME certifies 52 hours work in one shift - It's not a safety issue
list goes on....
Two LAMEs with 30 years experience each swap hands to do up screws - This is a safety issue that we will have to investigate further.
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RE;point #7,
When you get called up on your day off ,just give them the answer that you are very happy to come in when a taxi turns up outside the door to take you to work and that there is also a letter waiting for you signed by your manager to say it is ok to work on company aircraft with a blood alcohol level more than ZERO.After that,you should have no more problems with them calling you and there will be no domestic issues either!!
When you get called up on your day off ,just give them the answer that you are very happy to come in when a taxi turns up outside the door to take you to work and that there is also a letter waiting for you signed by your manager to say it is ok to work on company aircraft with a blood alcohol level more than ZERO.After that,you should have no more problems with them calling you and there will be no domestic issues either!!
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If you look at my profile, you will see I am not a Lame ..
However ..
I AM a student of military history and I would most definitely follow Steve.
I would NOT like to have him as the opposing General.
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However ..
I AM a student of military history and I would most definitely follow Steve.
I would NOT like to have him as the opposing General.
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Steve make them your main points then! You are being destroyed in credibility by a useles hack in Wirthless due to juvinile mistakes. If you can't handle the public forum (like Barry Jackson can't) it's not an admission of defeat. Work in the background on good, hard hitting policies that someone trained in the bull**** PR world can deliver. The public are fickle and if you want them on your side you need these people. You may not admit it but the public's perception of the Unions is that they are greedy and unrealistic. Heads in the sand will end with QF being and Asian carrier.
Another 1 for Olivia
Pls feel free to give us an answer Miss O,we wuld love to hear from you!!
The question is,Why has there been a YES vote to PIA of more than 80% for Lame's & more than 90% for the Pilots????
Surely a lady of your intelligence would be able to guess the answer without having to think too much and disturbing your leisure time at home after your 9am to 5pm working day not forgetting that it is also monday to friday.
The question is,Why has there been a YES vote to PIA of more than 80% for Lame's & more than 90% for the Pilots????
Surely a lady of your intelligence would be able to guess the answer without having to think too much and disturbing your leisure time at home after your 9am to 5pm working day not forgetting that it is also monday to friday.
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Fact is this was laughed at on radio this morning and thats not good.
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You guys really are in trouble. So defensive over any advice that is given that doesn't rely on childish games. I am not a troll (although i am sure you will shoot me down as one) i was trying to offer some opinion from my experience and perspective. I have a close family member work as a pilot for QF for 41 yrs and was screwed by the current management and therefore hold nothing but contempt for Joyce and especially the Chief Pilot who is an arrogant piece of you know what. I would like nothing more than you to succeed and boot Joyce out of the country. But the way you are currently going about it is losing the war. Fight... but fight smart.
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...just for giggles...can someone please mount a big Screwdriver on a plaque and put on a little brass plate underneath "Left Handed Screwdriver - to be used by Olivia when she needs a screw"
And present it to her.... don't forget to have a photographer on hand for a nice little pic to share with the troops!
And present it to her.... don't forget to have a photographer on hand for a nice little pic to share with the troops!
I've read some of the blog posts on the sites and think it clear that the negative comments are posted by persons who would never be supportive of any union regardless of what was happening. Regardless of what one thinks of the actions, they had to be taken or the ballot validity would lapse.
Well this move makes you look like petulant children
Sorry Steve but the left hand and 60 second strike is an own goal.
If I was you I would watch how it plays out and unless it gains you public favour, be ready to admit that it may not have been the best tactic. There is no real problem with that, noone gets it dead right all the time. The trick is to be willing to say 'ahhh yeah, that sucked...won't do that again in a hurry' and then carry on. We will still be behind you, but it's important to be ready to admit a mistake if it comes to it so that folks who support the cause but dislike the tactic don't get alienated.
Just my 2 cents.
PS good work on everything else to date.