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"Who cares about the CSM/CSS promotions"...Well,you should seeing you have to fly with them.
Our point is that they may as well do away with the interview process and save the money and just have allocations give out the positions.
"Who cares about the CSM/CSS promotions"...Well,you should seeing you have to fly with them.
Our point is that they may as well do away with the interview process and save the money and just have allocations give out the positions.
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Who cares about CSM promotions...
Hey Lowerlobe!
I share your frustration in the lack of transperancey with the CSM/CSS promotion/selection, however I find it hard to care for a process that from my perspective is flawed at times.
You're correct in saying that soon I will have to fly with the 'newbies'. Hopefully, a majority of them will be competent and enjoyable to fly with. With the one's that aren't, well, we are all well versed in dealing with 'village idiots'. Have done so in the past and will continue to in the future.
Now, anyone heard about B First recruitment and any possible movement in the transfer lists?
I share your frustration in the lack of transperancey with the CSM/CSS promotion/selection, however I find it hard to care for a process that from my perspective is flawed at times.
You're correct in saying that soon I will have to fly with the 'newbies'. Hopefully, a majority of them will be competent and enjoyable to fly with. With the one's that aren't, well, we are all well versed in dealing with 'village idiots'. Have done so in the past and will continue to in the future.
Now, anyone heard about B First recruitment and any possible movement in the transfer lists?
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For someone who doesn't think our destinations are what makes our job, you sure like to brag about them (and not the money) when reminiscing your career.
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Still a few NRT's to go then then the memories of Tahiti,Fiji,Athens in Summer and the Greek Islands.Skiing in Vancouver,Bahrain,Paris,Rome and even Belgrade was good especially in summer.Slips of more than 2 nights in LHR,long slips in Man and going up to the lakes district in summer...
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Twiggsy Girl,it took you more than 4 hours to come up with that lame retort.
As usual you have not answered my question and then just like the spin department twisted and omitted the facts.
Yes you are right that I mentioned some of the wonderful slip ports we used to fly to.However,it was your quote that these ports are the only things of importance.
In particular you said that the "money ain't important"
Well,not only did we fly to those places but we did it with a 75% standown and the money....something which as usual you failed to mention.
By the way,are you going to answer any questions or are you going to confirm everyones suspicions that you work in the office...
As usual you have not answered my question and then just like the spin department twisted and omitted the facts.
Yes you are right that I mentioned some of the wonderful slip ports we used to fly to.However,it was your quote that these ports are the only things of importance.
In particular you said that the "money ain't important"
Well,not only did we fly to those places but we did it with a 75% standown and the money....something which as usual you failed to mention.
By the way,are you going to answer any questions or are you going to confirm everyones suspicions that you work in the office...
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don't stress lobey
mate most of us know that twix is not crew and could be anything from a checkout chick at woolies to one of the visitors at qcc1.so who cares what she says.
she will never answer your questions just like the clowns in the office and ducks for cover when put on the spot.
mate most of us know that twix is not crew and could be anything from a checkout chick at woolies to one of the visitors at qcc1.so who cares what she says.
she will never answer your questions just like the clowns in the office and ducks for cover when put on the spot.
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Twiggsy Girly..
First, I did not mention his name nor the case !!
Secondly,Since he has not been convicted of anything,only someone in the office would call him the chocky bandit.You are playing judge,jury and executioner.
You seemed to have no qualms about raising the issue on pprune some months ago.
Still waiting for the answer as to how you knew ALL the details about the NRT delay
First, I did not mention his name nor the case !!
Secondly,Since he has not been convicted of anything,only someone in the office would call him the chocky bandit.You are playing judge,jury and executioner.
You seemed to have no qualms about raising the issue on pprune some months ago.
Still waiting for the answer as to how you knew ALL the details about the NRT delay
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Twiggsy …You overheard all of this between drinks at the Barge Inn….
“In the delay in question, one option presented to the crew was to take minimum rest in Narita and get home as scheduled, and the duty was to be treated as a continuous one (lots of overtime), from sign on in MEL till sign off in SYD.
It was only an option given, not a request, and was probably declined as the crew in question did not consider that amount of rest to warrant the extra money or the fact that they would probably get home a day late.
The S/H crew that were called out, paxed to NRT had 12 hrs off and operated back to SYD, slightly easier than if the L/H crew had operated a delayed service, had less than 12 hrs off, and then operated back to SYD”…….
Yeah that’s entirely believable…
Here are some other pearls of wisdom from Twiggsy..
“The cabin/IFE log was outlined in a recent Cabin Standing Order.
When you sign on you are verifying that you have read these.
There are many copies of these in QCC1 and there is one in the blue folder for when you are on board.
There is also a paragraph in the technical section of the latest cabin crew news which basically says what Bolty has just mentioned.
You can access this from the cabin crew web site if you are not going to be in the office soon”
“The slipping formula, as it stands, will be very hard to retain”
“the minimum length of it being 46hrs is probably difficult to justify”
“By the way, the slipping formula dictates 46 hrs minimum, not 2 local nights”…..
This was a good one. Does anyone know of anywhere except the polar regions that does not experience 2 local nights in 46 hours?????
Anyone heard about the 2 Aust based guys stood down for providing their own specialised service to a 17 year old girl in the cabin crew rest seats on a LHR flight?.....
Even Emirates have no crew rest seats on their 777's.
Jet* Asia definitely do not have them and I can't imagine Jet* international would waste valuable pax seats to put crew in when they have perfectly good jump seats to sit in….
The only question is what office you work in!!!
“In the delay in question, one option presented to the crew was to take minimum rest in Narita and get home as scheduled, and the duty was to be treated as a continuous one (lots of overtime), from sign on in MEL till sign off in SYD.
It was only an option given, not a request, and was probably declined as the crew in question did not consider that amount of rest to warrant the extra money or the fact that they would probably get home a day late.
The S/H crew that were called out, paxed to NRT had 12 hrs off and operated back to SYD, slightly easier than if the L/H crew had operated a delayed service, had less than 12 hrs off, and then operated back to SYD”…….
Yeah that’s entirely believable…
Here are some other pearls of wisdom from Twiggsy..
“The cabin/IFE log was outlined in a recent Cabin Standing Order.
When you sign on you are verifying that you have read these.
There are many copies of these in QCC1 and there is one in the blue folder for when you are on board.
There is also a paragraph in the technical section of the latest cabin crew news which basically says what Bolty has just mentioned.
You can access this from the cabin crew web site if you are not going to be in the office soon”
“The slipping formula, as it stands, will be very hard to retain”
“the minimum length of it being 46hrs is probably difficult to justify”
“By the way, the slipping formula dictates 46 hrs minimum, not 2 local nights”…..
This was a good one. Does anyone know of anywhere except the polar regions that does not experience 2 local nights in 46 hours?????
Anyone heard about the 2 Aust based guys stood down for providing their own specialised service to a 17 year old girl in the cabin crew rest seats on a LHR flight?.....
Even Emirates have no crew rest seats on their 777's.
Jet* Asia definitely do not have them and I can't imagine Jet* international would waste valuable pax seats to put crew in when they have perfectly good jump seats to sit in….
The only question is what office you work in!!!
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'lobe.........time to give Twiggs the flick -she's getting to you AND believe me she ain't worth it !!!!!!
Now back to the thread title.
My source reliably informed me that the first 2 days have been -FULL ON !!!.
Apparently it has been the usual passing parade of Talking Heads rabbiting on about Goals, Future strategy and Cost of capital
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Anyway Defcon's prediction re: certain individuals appears to be on the money.
I have to be careful here and not say too much, 'cause as the Goons trawl thru Pprune every morning -they may just id the CSM in the group ( my informer) and nail him/her for Treason.
Stay tuned for the next installment.
Now back to the thread title.
My source reliably informed me that the first 2 days have been -FULL ON !!!.
Apparently it has been the usual passing parade of Talking Heads rabbiting on about Goals, Future strategy and Cost of capital
.Anyway Defcon's prediction re: certain individuals appears to be on the money.
I have to be careful here and not say too much, 'cause as the Goons trawl thru Pprune every morning -they may just id the CSM in the group ( my informer) and nail him/her for Treason.
Stay tuned for the next installment.
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Don't tell me QF have given the job to someone capable of independant thought.......
If discovered they'll be "keel hauled" for sure.
Be careful not to give them up Stubby Jumbo. As far as managers go they are a dying breed.
If discovered they'll be "keel hauled" for sure.
Be careful not to give them up Stubby Jumbo. As far as managers go they are a dying breed.
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I'd like to know how they are condensing the previous CSM course into 2 weeks.Maybe they have accepted that most of what the training section does is BS.
The hard part in these courses is that you are either trying to stop throwing up or taking No Doz to stop falling asleep depending on who is droning on at the front of the class.
Must admit I'm jealous at the thought that these guys only have to put up with it for 2 weeks though.Then again if they have "picked" the candidates no amount of training will change them....and if most of the visitors have had no experience of flying then why should expect them to pick suitable candidates.
The hard part in these courses is that you are either trying to stop throwing up or taking No Doz to stop falling asleep depending on who is droning on at the front of the class.
Must admit I'm jealous at the thought that these guys only have to put up with it for 2 weeks though.Then again if they have "picked" the candidates no amount of training will change them....and if most of the visitors have had no experience of flying then why should expect them to pick suitable candidates.
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Boys and Girls it's going to be fun watching the new 'candidates' up the track.
any truth in the rumour that CB's (compactor boy) missus is or has come over from domestics.
hey lobey i might hang out more at the barge and see what i can hear.mate it sounds incredible what you can overhear while having a cold one.i reckon i might hear next weeks lotto numbers.what a joke
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any truth in the rumour that CB's (compactor boy) missus is or has come over from domestics.
hey lobey i might hang out more at the barge and see what i can hear.mate it sounds incredible what you can overhear while having a cold one.i reckon i might hear next weeks lotto numbers.what a joke
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QF Expansion and Promotion
In the next three years a large number of aircraft will arrive.
The mainline network will grow and frequencies to destinations will increase.
This will lead to an increase in crew numbers and the and promotions
Admittedly the increase in numbers will largely be casuals and off shore bases.
I wold hope that in order to maintain the product's integrity most of the promotions will come from experienced Australian based crew.
So hang in there...If you missed promotion this time there should be plenty of ooportunity in the future.
Hopefully the current crew management will realise that they have blundered with some of the recent "chosen ones"and the promotion process will become more honest and transparent.
"Promoting fools to positions of responsibility is setting them up to fail"
It also discredits the promotion process.
The mainline network will grow and frequencies to destinations will increase.
This will lead to an increase in crew numbers and the and promotions
Admittedly the increase in numbers will largely be casuals and off shore bases.
I wold hope that in order to maintain the product's integrity most of the promotions will come from experienced Australian based crew.
So hang in there...If you missed promotion this time there should be plenty of ooportunity in the future.
Hopefully the current crew management will realise that they have blundered with some of the recent "chosen ones"and the promotion process will become more honest and transparent.
"Promoting fools to positions of responsibility is setting them up to fail"
It also discredits the promotion process.
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Information coming in is that BFirst crew have had their VR applications cancelled .....
Whether this is all BFirst crew or just some is of course hard to find out unless you work in the office...
Whether this is all BFirst crew or just some is of course hard to find out unless you work in the office...
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Not an Office Troll but.....
The only category to have all VR approved was CSMs
No BFirst FA received VR.
Some people ready to leave now need to stay.
Gee wont they be happy?
No BFirst FA received VR.
Some people ready to leave now need to stay.
Gee wont they be happy?
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I know of some senior bluecoats that have VR ...so far that is.
Do you know any numbers ?
We need to talk to crew who have been to the Barge Inn lately
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Do you know any numbers ?
We need to talk to crew who have been to the Barge Inn lately
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Roaming,
not only is she in longhaul now, she has been there for about 2years.
All yours! Enjoy her...of course i will miss her broken english PA's, her poor management skills, her whinging........etc........
not only is she in longhaul now, she has been there for about 2years.
All yours! Enjoy her...of course i will miss her broken english PA's, her poor management skills, her whinging........etc........
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sydney s/h
hah sounds just like cb himself
thanks for the goss.does she use the same name as compactor boy?
mate i'm lucky not to bump into her.with my luck she'll be on my next trip.
is she a f/a or nah don't tell me she's a csm or css
has anyone flown with cb's missus.is she a pain like cb.she'd better keep her shoes in the bunk when sh'e having a kip
hey lobey what do you reckon she might go tothe barge for info and post here lol
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hah sounds just like cb himself
thanks for the goss.does she use the same name as compactor boy?
mate i'm lucky not to bump into her.with my luck she'll be on my next trip.
is she a f/a or nah don't tell me she's a csm or css
has anyone flown with cb's missus.is she a pain like cb.she'd better keep her shoes in the bunk when sh'e having a kip
hey lobey what do you reckon she might go tothe barge for info and post here lol
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