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We have always known that the company or rather the one who is running CC at whatever time would like to rid themselves of seniority.There has always been an incentive for them to win this.Rumor has it that Winnie was promised a BMW if she managed to achieve certain "goals".
Whether or not they succeed is another matter.Personally I feel that the only way for CC to survive is for not only the amalgamation of both FAAA divisions but also L/H and S/H.While ever there are two bodies of CC the company will play one against the other.
They are doing this with the threat of a dedicated A-380 crew.You would think that the cost of a seperate crew would be counter productive but by having another group they will continue to play divide and conquer.
I feel sorry for all the crew that are not taking VR and have to deal with an antagonistic and belligerent employer.
I wish you all the best.
Whether or not they succeed is another matter.Personally I feel that the only way for CC to survive is for not only the amalgamation of both FAAA divisions but also L/H and S/H.While ever there are two bodies of CC the company will play one against the other.
They are doing this with the threat of a dedicated A-380 crew.You would think that the cost of a seperate crew would be counter productive but by having another group they will continue to play divide and conquer.
I feel sorry for all the crew that are not taking VR and have to deal with an antagonistic and belligerent employer.
I wish you all the best.
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and there are
a number of operational problems if QF decides to have a dedicated crew on the A380;
small base like mel doing initially 2 week to lax- sin sit around in lax/sin for days.
if someone goes sick where are the replacements, holidays,
there are only 4/A 380 in the first year
as far as i am concerned its all smoke screen, a little pressure for the upcoming eba
but i totally agree with ll, it is imperative to get both unions together for the greater good of all. if onlyh thepersonal egos did not get in the way mhmmhm
small base like mel doing initially 2 week to lax- sin sit around in lax/sin for days.
if someone goes sick where are the replacements, holidays,
there are only 4/A 380 in the first year
as far as i am concerned its all smoke screen, a little pressure for the upcoming eba
but i totally agree with ll, it is imperative to get both unions together for the greater good of all. if onlyh thepersonal egos did not get in the way mhmmhm
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Originally Posted by mrpaxing
a number of operational problems if QF decides to have a dedicated crew on the A380;
small base like mel doing initially 2 week to lax- sin sit around in lax/sin for days.
small base like mel doing initially 2 week to lax- sin sit around in lax/sin for days.
I'm sure CARMEN could work out a pattern whereby they operate one way on the 380 and back on something else.
It will probably work the other way too as I reckon we will all be EP trained on the 380, for the case of operating out of category.
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you may have
a point twiggs. however given the current stuff ups with the roster system ( by 3q08 they want to introduce a different bidsystem, subject to eba negotiated outcomes)it may not be that easy. as i said before consider standby's, upline sickness,etc, should give operations an interesting time.
as far as i am concerned i am not rushing to apply for it. given the history of new aircraft introductions into QF, one can expect a few minor(giggle
) stuffups.
as far as i am concerned i am not rushing to apply for it. given the history of new aircraft introductions into QF, one can expect a few minor(giggle
) stuffups.
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ive heard it all now!
I know this is not related to long haul, but new mam contract c crew will be bonded from 1 July! for 2 years
seems that qantas/mam are losing too many crew. 20 resignations in the last month network wide
good luck!
seems that qantas/mam are losing too many crew. 20 resignations in the last month network wide
good luck!
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Quote from twiggsy
“Dedicated crew does not mean they would operate the A380 exclusively”
dedicated: • (of a thing) exclusively allocated to or intended for a particular service or purpose
Well, if the company calls the crew dedicated then that would generally mean that they only operate that aircraft type.Then again how many times have the company said one thing and done the exact opposite.
I still believe that it would cost too much money to have separate crews from both an operational sense and from the efficiency perspective at least until there are enough 380’s to justify a dedicated crew.
However,with over 30 years of watching the company in action you usually pick the most sensible,logical and pragmatic solution to a problem and then they will pick the opposite.
“Dedicated crew does not mean they would operate the A380 exclusively”
dedicated: • (of a thing) exclusively allocated to or intended for a particular service or purpose
Well, if the company calls the crew dedicated then that would generally mean that they only operate that aircraft type.Then again how many times have the company said one thing and done the exact opposite.
I still believe that it would cost too much money to have separate crews from both an operational sense and from the efficiency perspective at least until there are enough 380’s to justify a dedicated crew.
However,with over 30 years of watching the company in action you usually pick the most sensible,logical and pragmatic solution to a problem and then they will pick the opposite.
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.....whats old is new again!"
How often have we seen this slogan get trotted out by this management( belch) "team".?
My bet is we'll go back to the future and go back to a allocated roster system .....a la pre-1988......similar to what our esteemed comrades have up in Club UK ltd.
Nothing surprises me any more with this lot.
It was only last week when one of them came into our briefing to present a LSL badge ......and during the "spiel" got the persons name wrong not once , not twice, but THREE F----'N TIMES.
And you know what.........no one laughed.
We all just folded our arms,grimaced and waited for the buffoon to exit.
The CSM then said,"don't worry, we'll celebrate ------- 15 yrs service with drinks in my room tonight."
Nice recovery
Can SYD-L/H be a "self directed/managed" base?
We don't NEED these people.
My bet is we'll go back to the future and go back to a allocated roster system .....a la pre-1988......similar to what our esteemed comrades have up in Club UK ltd.
Nothing surprises me any more with this lot.
It was only last week when one of them came into our briefing to present a LSL badge ......and during the "spiel" got the persons name wrong not once , not twice, but THREE F----'N TIMES.
And you know what.........no one laughed.
We all just folded our arms,grimaced and waited for the buffoon to exit.
The CSM then said,"don't worry, we'll celebrate ------- 15 yrs service with drinks in my room tonight."
Nice recovery
Can SYD-L/H be a "self directed/managed" base?
We don't NEED these people.
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danish pastry
more layers then a danish pastry. that is LG strategie. every year or so there will be an official restructure (looks good to the public/shareholder) and surprise surprise 6 month after the restructure there a similar amounts of managers "visiting". titles change not the numbers.
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Message from Bill Clinton, Former US President.
Hi Guys,
Time for some light relief.......err I mean a laugh.
HOW TO SAVE THE AIRLINES
Dump the male flight attendants. No one wanted them in the first place. Replace all the female flight attendants with good-looking strippers! What the heck...... They don't even serve food anymore, so what's the loss?
The strippers would at least triple the alcohol sales and get a "party atmosphere" going in the cabin. And, of course, every businessman in this country would start flying again, hoping to see naked women. Which then means more bosses out of the office!!!
Because of the tips, female flight attendants wouldn't need a salary, thus saving even more money. I suspect tips would be so good that we could charge the women for working the plane and have them kick back 20% of the tips, including lap dances and "special services."
Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing n@ked women. Hijackings would come to a screeching halt, and the airline industry would see record revenues.
This is definitely a win-win situation if we handle it right --- a golden opportunity to turn a liability into an asset. Why didn't Bush think of this? Why do I still have to do everything myself?
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
Time for some light relief.......err I mean a laugh.
HOW TO SAVE THE AIRLINES
Dump the male flight attendants. No one wanted them in the first place. Replace all the female flight attendants with good-looking strippers! What the heck...... They don't even serve food anymore, so what's the loss?
The strippers would at least triple the alcohol sales and get a "party atmosphere" going in the cabin. And, of course, every businessman in this country would start flying again, hoping to see naked women. Which then means more bosses out of the office!!!
Because of the tips, female flight attendants wouldn't need a salary, thus saving even more money. I suspect tips would be so good that we could charge the women for working the plane and have them kick back 20% of the tips, including lap dances and "special services."
Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing n@ked women. Hijackings would come to a screeching halt, and the airline industry would see record revenues.
This is definitely a win-win situation if we handle it right --- a golden opportunity to turn a liability into an asset. Why didn't Bush think of this? Why do I still have to do everything myself?
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
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I always thought Bill would be someone I would like to have a beer or two with.
Can you imagine though if the airlines agreed to this.
Can you just see the type of women that "our " company would hire?????
Can you imagine though if the airlines agreed to this.
Can you just see the type of women that "our " company would hire?????
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Warning Warning! Danger Danger!
The Newbies are emerging from the Stalag and are venturing out online with a
"Mentor".
Upward feedback anybody ?
The more I see the names the more I cringe.
A few years one of the "chosen ones" had to be taken aside and told not to bag Qantas to the customers.
If you arent a member of the "Magic Circle Club"your chances of promotion are zilch.
The team managers have also realized that their support for a candidate means absolutely nothing.
So much for their relevance in the promotional process.
Lewis Carroll couldnt have written a better story.
If AW wears a hat to work it will the......?
"Mentor".
Upward feedback anybody ?
The more I see the names the more I cringe.
A few years one of the "chosen ones" had to be taken aside and told not to bag Qantas to the customers.
If you arent a member of the "Magic Circle Club"your chances of promotion are zilch.
The team managers have also realized that their support for a candidate means absolutely nothing.
So much for their relevance in the promotional process.
Lewis Carroll couldnt have written a better story.
If AW wears a hat to work it will the......?
"Magic Circle"
