QF Longhaul Cabin Crew Promotions
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I dont know if i'm allowed to post peoples names on here. She uses a different name though - not ending in B. She is asian and has a very asian name.
She is an economy worker (i use the term worker very loosely). Quite senior with around 30years.
Goodluck! If you want me to PM you her name then let me know.
She is an economy worker (i use the term worker very loosely). Quite senior with around 30years.
Goodluck! If you want me to PM you her name then let me know.
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Check Out Chicks and Shelf Stackers
The QF Cabin Crew department is now being run by ex check out chicks and shelf stackers.
The promotion process which is now almost complete is a complete mess.
Just look at those promoted and those who were promoted and knocked it back
Not one crew member was involved in the process
Not one crew member is training these people.
Who trains a pilot?.....another pilot
Who trains a bricklayer?......another bricklayer
Who trains a QF CSM?........an ex shelf stacker.
Their success is guaranteed.......to fail.
The quality of decision making and problem solving is going to be....you guessed it...abysmal.
Dont the check out chicks trust any of the incumbent CSMs to do a great
job training these poor devils?
Perhaps they are concerned that they may teach them how to be strong independent leaders.
This is what you need in an extremely competitive environment.
A CSM comes into contact with the captains of industry in this and other countries.
The graduates of Check Out Chick College will be ill eqipped to deal with CEOs and Chairman of companies like BHP,IBM and the major investment banks.
The fall out will be of cataclysmic proportions.
This is about to become a most interesting spectator sport.
Which CSM made a monumental stuff up this week ?
They will not receive any support from the Check Out Chicks.
Poor Sods (the Pax).
Wake Up Geoff!!....intervene before QF becomes a bigger laughing stock than it already is.
The promotion process which is now almost complete is a complete mess.
Just look at those promoted and those who were promoted and knocked it back
Not one crew member was involved in the process
Not one crew member is training these people.
Who trains a pilot?.....another pilot
Who trains a bricklayer?......another bricklayer
Who trains a QF CSM?........an ex shelf stacker.
Their success is guaranteed.......to fail.
The quality of decision making and problem solving is going to be....you guessed it...abysmal.
Dont the check out chicks trust any of the incumbent CSMs to do a great
job training these poor devils?
Perhaps they are concerned that they may teach them how to be strong independent leaders.
This is what you need in an extremely competitive environment.
A CSM comes into contact with the captains of industry in this and other countries.
The graduates of Check Out Chick College will be ill eqipped to deal with CEOs and Chairman of companies like BHP,IBM and the major investment banks.
The fall out will be of cataclysmic proportions.
This is about to become a most interesting spectator sport.
Which CSM made a monumental stuff up this week ?
They will not receive any support from the Check Out Chicks.
Poor Sods (the Pax).
Wake Up Geoff!!....intervene before QF becomes a bigger laughing stock than it already is.
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You lot can't even wait and see how it all pans out before you bag it can you?
You think that when you used to bid up to FSD you got a higher quality of candidate?
Morons slip through the net with any procedure, you lot are good examples of that.
You think that when you used to bid up to FSD you got a higher quality of candidate?
Morons slip through the net with any procedure, you lot are good examples of that.
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Rumour has it the the ex DJ hostie is "cock a hoot" over the whole process and firmly of the belief [read delusion] that these are the best candidates ever selected.
The inherent problem with the whole process is that cabin crew management have [cough] overwhelmingly "anointed" mirror images of themselves.
A handfull of them will cope and cope well.
As for the others............"price check on aisle 11!"
Perhaps the selection process was carried out with the view to establishing the relevence of the current crop of CCTMs and CCMs???
They ARE after all, going to be busy.
The inherent problem with the whole process is that cabin crew management have [cough] overwhelmingly "anointed" mirror images of themselves.
A handfull of them will cope and cope well.
As for the others............"price check on aisle 11!"
Perhaps the selection process was carried out with the view to establishing the relevence of the current crop of CCTMs and CCMs???
They ARE after all, going to be busy.
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if they are using visitors instead of real crew maybe that is why they shortened the csm training to 2 weeks from 5 because they don't know that much themselves.
even then i reckon they would be hard put to fill a 2 weeks course with what they know.
FOT
if they are using visitors instead of real crew maybe that is why they shortened the csm training to 2 weeks from 5 because they don't know that much themselves.
even then i reckon they would be hard put to fill a 2 weeks course with what they know.
FOT
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Best Ever ?
1.(a)This is the ONLY promotional process these people have ever been involved in for QF.
(b)they are the best group to be promoted this year...the only group
2.This new group are the "baseline".
3.Give them 12 months and see where they are at
4.The new CSSs should be announced soon
5.These are potential CSMs and could be promoted within 12 months if aircraft arrive on time
6.We could have a situation of the blind being led by the nearsighted.
7.There is no substitute for experience...never has been never will be.
8.Promoting the inexperienced without adequate training is a recipe for disaster
9.There are already rumblings in this first group of "I think I have made a mistake"...2 or 3 are already considering their positions.
10.The gloss has worn off pretty bloody quickly...it usually takes 6 weeks on line before it happens.
(b)they are the best group to be promoted this year...the only group
2.This new group are the "baseline".
3.Give them 12 months and see where they are at
4.The new CSSs should be announced soon
5.These are potential CSMs and could be promoted within 12 months if aircraft arrive on time
6.We could have a situation of the blind being led by the nearsighted.
7.There is no substitute for experience...never has been never will be.
8.Promoting the inexperienced without adequate training is a recipe for disaster
9.There are already rumblings in this first group of "I think I have made a mistake"...2 or 3 are already considering their positions.
10.The gloss has worn off pretty bloody quickly...it usually takes 6 weeks on line before it happens.
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Promotion Process Reopened
The CSS position promotion process has been reopened.
This could mean:
not enough candidates applied
no one wants to go anywhere but Sydney
the earlier process was tainted
not enough brown spots applied.
Who in their right mind would want to be a CSS?
80% of the pax,50% of the crew 90% of the problems.
Ouch!!
This could mean:
not enough candidates applied
no one wants to go anywhere but Sydney
the earlier process was tainted
not enough brown spots applied.
Who in their right mind would want to be a CSS?
80% of the pax,50% of the crew 90% of the problems.
Ouch!!
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you just gotta laugh.they never tell you how many people applied or got vr.
they never tell you how many applied for css or csm.
they work out a plan that no actual crew train new csm's
they decide to do this with only a few weeks to apply then if you get it you have to move to mel.
they decide after telling us all about 150 spots for vr that they can't let that many go.
1 csm i know actually wanted to cancel his application for vr and they told him he can't get out of it now.even though there maybe other crew who still want to go.
now they reopen the css process again.i reckon since this is being worked out by a ex VB hostie they are probably giving the crew face painting exercises in the interview and none passed it.
it really is a mushroom factory
surfside i'll tell you who would go for the jacket down the back and thats the onesd who crave power and think there is some at left 2or 4
FOT
they never tell you how many applied for css or csm.
they work out a plan that no actual crew train new csm's
they decide to do this with only a few weeks to apply then if you get it you have to move to mel.
they decide after telling us all about 150 spots for vr that they can't let that many go.
1 csm i know actually wanted to cancel his application for vr and they told him he can't get out of it now.even though there maybe other crew who still want to go.
now they reopen the css process again.i reckon since this is being worked out by a ex VB hostie they are probably giving the crew face painting exercises in the interview and none passed it.
it really is a mushroom factory
surfside i'll tell you who would go for the jacket down the back and thats the onesd who crave power and think there is some at left 2or 4
FOT
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CSS Applications Reopened
Why delay announcing who was successful for CSS promotion? You either have the quality to make the grade or not. If sufficient numbers were not attained, promote and train those who were successful and address the issue at a later time. How on earth is reopening the process going to make any difference to those that have just jumped through the hoops?
Me smells a rat!
Me smells a rat!
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Dorothy and Toto
Just trust us.
We know whats best for you..heh heh heh !!
We particularly know whats best for us.
The two are mutually exclusive.
Oops! Did we say that?
AW LG ST
We know whats best for you..heh heh heh !!
We particularly know whats best for us.
The two are mutually exclusive.
Oops! Did we say that?
AW LG ST
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................this is all starting to look like "Comedy Capers".
I was really hoping that this could be the new Management (wheeze) groups -"time to shine" !.
But no-its a lame ,slap dash attempt at being different .....just for the sake of it.
As expected the 2 programs going thru are turning farcical.
The Trainers ( as has being stated ) have zero experience as operating crew. They have been caught out on numerous occasions having NO IDEA what a CSM is supposed to be doing.................its all big picture stuff.
Apparently there is an EX-CSM/Line Controller coming in to do some bit of the training next week. ME THINK THIS AMAZING.
Its probably going to be Rick -he always saw himself as a Line Controller
GO THE SAINTS.
The CSS selection is a total debacle.
No matter what we say on here ................I think we are stuck with the shelf packers.
If there is one good thing in all of this................its the script writers for the Cabin Crew Revue are going to have HEAPS of material......it will be a hoot !!!!
Any suggestions for names ?????????
I was really hoping that this could be the new Management (wheeze) groups -"time to shine" !.
But no-its a lame ,slap dash attempt at being different .....just for the sake of it.
As expected the 2 programs going thru are turning farcical.
The Trainers ( as has being stated ) have zero experience as operating crew. They have been caught out on numerous occasions having NO IDEA what a CSM is supposed to be doing.................its all big picture stuff.
Apparently there is an EX-CSM/Line Controller coming in to do some bit of the training next week. ME THINK THIS AMAZING.
Its probably going to be Rick -he always saw himself as a Line Controller
GO THE SAINTS.
The CSS selection is a total debacle.
No matter what we say on here ................I think we are stuck with the shelf packers.
If there is one good thing in all of this................its the script writers for the Cabin Crew Revue are going to have HEAPS of material......it will be a hoot !!!!
Any suggestions for names ?????????
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It's a pity then that the usual Benny Hill girls are nowhere to be seen in the office although the comedy routine is everywhere....
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........latest word from Stalag 4 is that one of the captives have fled the group of 28.
Reason ???????
???????????
Apparently one of the groups ( with trainer-Colonel Klink ) have been subjected to all sorts "treatment" this week. The result is that tensions are running very very high......... almost to breaking-"out" point.
The ex-DJ hostie has been like a cat on a hot tin roof this week darting in and out unleashing the latest according to Il Duce.
Hang in there guys ...............only a week or so go then you will be over the fence into.......... the never never
Reason ???????
???????????Apparently one of the groups ( with trainer-Colonel Klink ) have been subjected to all sorts "treatment" this week. The result is that tensions are running very very high......... almost to breaking-"out" point.
The ex-DJ hostie has been like a cat on a hot tin roof this week darting in and out unleashing the latest according to Il Duce.
Hang in there guys ...............only a week or so go then you will be over the fence into.......... the never never
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i reckon that the mushroom factory is a bit like Benny Hill and Hogans Heroes.with crew having it all over the office guards and getting the job done the right way as soon as the dunlops are up.
i reckon fat boy slim would have to be in with a chance to be schultz.
it's a shame that we don't pick the important stuff we use like ife instead of klinks second hand home stereo.the punters would be better off for sure
FOT
i reckon fat boy slim would have to be in with a chance to be schultz.
it's a shame that we don't pick the important stuff we use like ife instead of klinks second hand home stereo.the punters would be better off for sure
FOT
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3 Disenchanted
One has had the courage of their convictions and left the pool
Two more are considering it .
Well done Uber Mismanagement(aka Checkout Chicks +Shelf Stackers)
Which pretty much makes it official...the CSM position has no credibility
The rot has set in...after week one
There is a 6 month probationary period
Any one care to start a book on how many make it?
Two more are considering it .
Well done Uber Mismanagement(aka Checkout Chicks +Shelf Stackers)
Which pretty much makes it official...the CSM position has no credibility
The rot has set in...after week one
There is a 6 month probationary period
Any one care to start a book on how many make it?
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I wonder if the person who voluntarily left the CSM promotional course will be given a clause 11.He is obviously a dissident and will need some form of discipline.
They will also want to recoup the money spent on face painting,group excercises and so on....
They will also want to recoup the money spent on face painting,group excercises and so on....
NRT's are going back to LH crew from next month. Very interesting! Wonder why?