Jet2-5

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Interesting that there are none from the 2 new bases, BHX/STN, like there was last year.

The STN NYC trips this winter were originally scheduled to be A330 but that had to be changed due to the uptake, so perhaps that's why no STN this coming winter?

[canberra97]

With so many opportunities from the scheduled airlines within the London catchment areas I'm not surprised to see that Jet2 are not offering New York charter flights for winter 2018 from STN unlike their other bases with the exception of MAN in not having any links with New York so the opportunity for Jet2 to offer the flights from those airports are probably more feasible to run.

[Lsflyer1]

Jethros is now showing a second A330 with the tail number still pending. Anybody know where this is being based or have an details? I was told initially there would be 2 for summer 18 but then this was cancelled to having only 1 again.

[castleford tiger]

50 PLANES flying today with many going to canaries and a cluster around Geneva.
A deal being done with SAGA .....being discussed? Anyone heard this?

[lagerlout]

Fairly standard winter flying prog. Canaries plus ski.

Saga deal?

[DavidShepherd]

Interesting. May be way off the mark here, but the holiday division were telegraphing a new product launch prior to the conference at the end of last year. It was never announced though, last minute legal hitch apparently.

Jet2Codgers has a certain ring to it.

[garry8g]

So who's operating the 219Y Config Boeing 757-200 to be based LBA next summer 2018 for Jet2?

According to Jethro's today, this will be Titan B757 GPOWH based at Leeds for Summer 18.

[BAladdy]

Are LS basing one of there own aircraft at ALC for S18 or are they leasing in from another carrier?

[LBIA]

ALC will be 2x Jet2 B738.

[garry8g]

Is Palma to have a B737-800 from Europa again this year? Or do Jet2 plan on having one of their own aircraft based there for Summer 18?

[LBIA]

PMI is a 2+ B738 base as well.
Possiblity of a B738 been leased from AEA which will be based MAN or PMI.

[LAX_LHR]

I would imagine the Air Europa would be PMI based like last summer.

[ssflyer]

Some lively chatter here on LS1507 STN-LPA diverted via Brest.
Perhaps someone could enlighten them?
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g1-i10702-k11194207-o10-LS1507_STN_LPA_diverted_via_Brest_Why-Air_Travel.html#89014049

[garry8g]

Does anyone know what the ex Transaero B737-800's will be registered as?

Will they continue the 'G-DRT_' registrations? (As in G-DRTC & G-DRTD).

[MKY661]

I don't know for sure, but that would be my Guess too

[FFHKG]

G-DRT may well be one they would not want if you pronounce it as a child would G-dirt!

[chaps1954]

Well there are 2 in that batch already so not a problem by looks of it

[paully]

See Jet 2 have won another award, This time for being the only airline to make it into the top 50 UK Companies for customer service

http://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?c=setreg&region=2&m_id=_rT_~AY!ns~&w_id=34114&news_id=2030766

With acknowledge to Travelmole

[Plane.Silly]

G-DRT may well be one they would not want if you pronounce it as a child would G-dirt!

Pretty sure it's to do with their parent company 'Dart Group', so it'd be G-DaRT

[southside bobby]

G-DART was allotted 11.10.78 to a home build.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

It is related to the Dart Group, however it’s not G-DaRT, there are already 2 aeroplanes in the fleet with G-DRTA and G-DRTB, so that sequence might continue with the 2nd hand aeroplanes that arrive.

[compton3bravo]

It is the DART Group Johnny, oh dearie me!

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Thanks CPT3B, merely a typo on my behalf, fixed now.

[garry8g]

Jet2 latest Boeing 737-8MG, G-JZBH has departed BFI making its way on an overnight transatlantic delivery flight to LBA.

As usual its using the reg as its callsign.

[Plane.Silly]

Seen on the Jet2 website, they're looking to operate upto 90 aircraft. Are they leasing any further aircraft that we don't know about?

Also they plan to take 12m people this year, almost double the number of pax in just 3/4 years. Excellent work

https://www.jet2.com/News/Jet2_com___Jet2holidays__Our_Size_and_Success/

[garry8g]

The following aircraft are been leased to cover peak summer 2018 operations.

Confirmed leases.
Airbus A330, G-VYGL (Air Tanker) = Based Manchester
Airbus A321, LY-LCV (Smart Lynx) = Based Birmingham
Airbus A321, G-POWN (Titan Airways) = Based London Stansted
Airbus A321, G-POWT (Titan Airways) = Based London Stansted
Boeing 757-200, G-POWH (Titan Airways) = Based Leeds/Bradford
Not confirmed
Boeing 737-800, EC-IDT (Air Europa) = Based TBC (Possibly Manchester or Palma)

Info from lbaspotter - Forums4airports

[Lsflyer1]

There seems to be two A330s aswell. The second one doesn't seem to have been confirmed yet but assume it will come from air tanker aswell.

[Plane.Silly]

Thanks for that Garry

So where's this 2nd A330 from Air Tanker everyone was talking about?

[garry8g]

Don't think the second A330 has been confirmed by anyone yet (from AirTanker or whoever), so it may or may not appear before Summer 18.

[irishlad06]

GVYGM or K has been handed back from TCX to Airtanker - it is widely rumoured that this will be the 2nd aircraft but is yet to be confirmed - likely not to happen at this rate but should happen summer 2019.

ECIDT has been confirmed as PMI based this summer.

[Beatts]

G-VYGM has gone over to TUI till around mid may while they service their 787 fleet.

[mudcity]

There is only one air tanker 330 GVYGL
GM - GK will be operating for TCX ex MAN

[Plane.Silly]

GVYGL didn't start in 2017 till mid May. Is it still a potential option, or would TUI have it for the whole season as well?

[Blakedean]

Read elsewhere there may be a GN being reregistered by Air Tanker, airliners.net IIRC.

[garry8g]

Of the original order of new B737-800's, 6+ still to be delivered this winter as follows.

Feb: G-JZBI, G-JZBJ
Mar: G-JZBK, G-GZBL
Apr: G-JZBM, G-GZBN

The last remaining 4x are due to be delivered anytime between Aug 2018 & Jan 2019

The 2+ second hand Boeing 737-800 bought should be delivered and put in to service before end of winter
EI-RUN & EI-RUO

So this summer the fleet should be at 90+ aircraft as follows:

18x = Boeing 737-300's
G-CELE/F/G/H/O/V/X/Y
G-GDFB/E/G/H/K/L/M/N/O/T

56x = Boeing 737-800's
G-GDFC/D/F/J/P/R/S/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-JZHA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-JZBA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N
G-DRTA/B & EI-RUN/EI-RUO (Aircraft to be re-registered onto UK registrations)
EC-IDT (Leased from Air Europa = Based PMI)

12x Boeing 757-200's
G-LSAA/B/C/D/E/G/H/I/J/K/N
G-POWH (Leased from Titan Airways = Based LBA)

3x = Airbus A321's
G-POWN/M (Leased from Titan Airways = Based STN)
YL-LCV (Leased from Smart Lynx = Based BHX)

1x = Airbus A330-200
G-VYGL (Leased from Air Tanker = Based MAN)

[Callum Paterson]

Interesting post regarding Jet2's fleet. Thanks for sharing.

For summer 2018 do you how many aircraft Jet2 will base at each of its bases?

[GrahamK]

6 x 738 at GLA
3 x 733, 4 x 738 at NCL
3 X 733, 3X 738 at EDI

[irishlad06]

MAN
13x B738
7xB757
1 x A330

[BFS BHD]

BFS
2x B733
2x B738

[LBIA]

LBA
5+ B752 (1x leased Titan & 1+ spare)
5+ B738
6+ B733 (1+ spare)

[Flying Wild]

BHX

7x 738
1x 321 (smartlinx)

[irishlad06]

ALC

2 x B738 (1 flying 1 airport standby)


PMI
1 x B738 (air Europa lease)

[Severn]

The schedules seem to show 2x B738s based at both PMI and ALC this summer. The aircraft at both PMI and ALC operate two returns to the UK each day (except for Tuesday afternoons in ALC, and Tues/Weds afternoons in PMI).

This is on top of the UK based aircraft operating to both PMI and ALC.

Looking at the timings on a Monday in August for example:

PMI Aircraft 1:
PMI 07:30 - STN 09:05 (45min turnaround) STN 09:50 - PMI 13:25
(1hr 10min turnaround)
PMI 14:25 - MAN 16:15 (1hr turnaround) MAN 17:00 - PMI 20:45

PMI Aircraft 2:
PMI 08:00 - BHX 09:35 (45min turnaround) BHX 10:20 - PMI 13:50
(1hr turnaround)
PMI 14:50 - LBA 16:40 (45min turnaround) LBA 17:25 - PMI 21:10

ALC Aircraft 1:
ALC 07:40 - MAN 09:35 (45 min turnaround) MAN 10:20 - ALC 14:15
(1 hour turnaround)
ALC 15:15 - MAN 17:10 (45 min turnaround) MAN 17:55 - ALC 21:50

ALC Aircraft 2:
ALC 08:00 - NCL 10:05 (50 min turnaround) NCL 10:55 - ALC 15:00
(55 min turnaround)
ALC 15:55 - MAN 17:50 (45 min turnaround) MAN 18:35 - ALC 22:30

[daz211]

G-POWN A321 ops flight LS1664 TFS-STN today.

[Yorkshire_Pudding]

Any rumour of Jet2 acquiring the 3 x B75W currently operated by OpenSkies out of paris, which will cease boeing operations this summer? Apparently the winglets make them less attractive/unsuitable for cargo ops. 2 of 3 the are PW powered. The B767 I was told long ago is unsuitable due floor loading issues for high density config.

[BAladdy]

Does the source of the rumour know when LS would take delivery of the aircraft and are the aircraft being acquired on lease or they being bought?.

Openskies 2 PW powered aircraft are leased. The RR 757 is I believe still owned by BA.

[Yorkshire_Pudding]

Sorry it was a question not a rumour.

[Plane.Silly]

Would be nice to see more than the current dozen of 757's, but i think their focus is very much on the 738 at present.

Eventually they'll need to look at bigger options than their 189 seat 738's, so more 757's would be ideal, but by the time that comes around, the 757's may be past their sell-by date (30+ years)

[azz767]

I suppose it would be about cherry picking the best ones out there like FI are trying to do. With the openskies ones they'd have been run ragged at BA before but with the openskies operation you can imagine them firstly not being used as much and secondly being in better general condition than the majority of 757's out there, which I suppose begs the question, where would you look for the best examples if you wanted more 757's?

[LiamNCL]

Surely some of the TUI ones could be worth a shout once they start to be WFU later this year ?

[Plane.Silly]

TUI frames aren't a bad shout, similar use and about the same age as LS's current stock.

I'd be surprised if TUI wanted to sell them to Jet2 though, after all, they are bitter rivals. Their holiday arms are #1 and #2 in the UK market

[Mr A Tis]

Would have thought the Open Skies fleet would be just transferred to Level who are taking over the services (From full service to low cost)

[MKY661]

I'd be surprised if TUI wanted to sell them to Jet2 though, after all, they are bitter rivals. Their holiday arms are #1 and #2 in the UK market

I believe the TUI 757's are the next aircraft to leave the fleet anyway, so giving them to Jet2 might work out.

[Blakedean]

TUI frames aren't a bad shout, similar use and about the same age as LS's current stock.

I'd be surprised if TUI wanted to sell them to Jet2 though, after all, they are bitter rivals. Their holiday arms are #1 and #2 in the UK market

You make that sound as if they are 2 football clubs.

[LiamNCL]

TUI are getting rid of them for good reason as their MAX-8 start to come online. Not sure they will be fussed where the 752s end up.

[Plane.Silly]

On the face of it, If Jet2 offer a decent price for them, TUI would be mad not to let them have them.

But i like the football analogy Blakedean. If you were a manager, would you want to sell your players to a rival team? No, because they can provide an advantage over yourself.
In the airline case, giving your competitor extra seats to sell means, assuming 'Ceteris Paribus' they improve their Revenue/Profit at TUI (indirect) expense

[LBIA]

Are Jet2 even in the market to add further Boeing 757-200 aircraft to its fleet?

[sixchannel]

New 737-800 G-JZBH now earning its keep. After delivery to LBA on 01/02 its now on BHX-TFS-BHX LS1293/4.
Does that mean BHX gets a nice shiny brand new one on its allocation?
I read earlier that BHX will have 8 737s for Summer. Currently stands at 5 as far as i can make out PLUS this one.
Where do all unused aircraft go in the Winter?

[Stanstedeye]

G-POWN A321 ops flight LS1664 TFS-STN today.

And again on 9-2-18, with 7-738's, so 8 airframes & its only just February.

[southside bobby]

G-POWN ops STN-GNB this AM..

A/C still all white but has now acquired red Jet2.com titles on fuselage & tail.(again)..

Lease-in does indeed appear to have commenced early..

[LBIA]

G-JZBH entered revenue earning service at LBA on Monday.

[Ivan aromer]

Dont know what Phillp's boys and girls are doing but its working. The share price has risen sharply today.
Keep it up!

[CKT789]

Trading Update - RNS - London Stock Exchange (http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/news/market-news/market-news-detail/DTG/13537085.html)

Strong trading update...

[RAFAT]

Still some way off last year's October high but going in the right direction.

[Ivan aromer]

719 last year was the highest, trading well in excess of that today!

[RAFAT]

Ooops, sorry, I was looking at the wrong chart! Doh!

[Ivan aromer]

Fingers crossed for £8.00, Delapsus resurgam!

[Marcus Absent]

With all this extra money they could buy the Thomas Cook hangar at MAN, which is rumoured to become vacant in the not to distant future.

[LBIA]

Read elsewhere not so long ago that Multiflight are/maybe planning on investing millions of pounds in developing a new purpose built facility on the south side at Leeds/Bradford for Jet2 as well.

[TheFiddler]

With all this extra money they could buy the Thomas Cook hangar at MAN, which is rumoured to become vacant in the not to distant future.

They've already got the ex-Monarch hangar which can accommodate 3 aircraft. Why need a second one?

[Ivan aromer]

Fingers crossed for £8.00, delapsus resurgam.

Keep peddling Jet2ers £8.20 this morning, Phillip
Will be pleased!

[Plane.Silly]

They've already got the ex-Monarch hangar which can accommodate 3 aircraft. Why need a second one?

At the rate they're growing, they may need it in the not too distant future.

Also it could potentially keep the competition from expanding too. They may want to base lots of frames there, and a maintenance hanger would work well for them...not if Jet2 snap it up first

[Buster the Bear]

Another ex Transaero B737-800 due this week making 3 in total.

[OltonPete]

With yesterdays announcement of even more expansion at BHX this summer is this linked to Busters post above on the 26th?

The 9th aircraft starts with West Midlands school holidays which sometimes can indicate a short-term lease to cover the peak period but in this instance is this aircraft actually based at BHX (or elsewhere) all summer as an operational spare but pressed into regular service on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday?

I have checked the seat-map for one of the new flights and it is standard 189.


Pete

[irishlad06]

It looks like the extra aircraft is coming from Boeing.

Flying at the minute Fri - Sat -Sun and Mon and likely to be standby tue wed and thu to cover maintenance.

Friday - LS1241 BHX - HER 0855/1300 1350/1815
Saturday - reshuffle of a few flights to add a rotation to RHO and CFU.
LS1283 BHX - RHO 1235/1645 1745/2210
LS1213 BHX - CFU 1535/1905 2005/2335
Sunday - LS1263 BHX - MAH 0710/0945 1030/1305
LS1283/4 BHX - RHO 1305/1710 1800/2335
Monday LS1273 BHX - ZTH 1015/1355 1440/1830

All time in Zulu

[Gurnard]

EI-RUH
Ex-Transaero B737-800 positioned Teruel-QLA this afternoon, presumably destined for Jet2.

[jet2us]

Does anyone on here know the current fleet exit plan for the 733 - what and when?? Assume it won't be this side of the summer now?

[Garstag]

EI-RUH
Ex-Transaero B737-800 positioned Teruel-QLA this afternoon, presumably destined for Jet2.

EI RUH will become G-DRTF
EI RUI will become G-DRTE

[Robin757]

Can anyone tell me if Boeing 737 800s will operate Leeds - Berlin at all soon. Also I have noticed that the flights in both directions always seem to fly at 29,000 feet flight level. Is that a regular occurrence? If so why?

[LiamNCL]

Can anyone tell me if Boeing 737 800s will operate Leeds - Berlin at all soon. Also I have noticed that the flights in both directions always seem to fly at 29,000 feet flight level. Is that a regular occurrence? If so why?

LBA-SXF is down as a 733 all year. The 733 has a lower cruise altitude than a 738 and due to the short distance 29,000 is the optimum altitude for that aircraft on that route so thats why you will see FL290 more often than not.

[Chesty Morgan]

The question was why it was the same level in both directions! If it is, I’ve flown it a few times and cannot remember if it is the case, I suspect it is just an exception to the semicircular rule which occurs here and there.

[LiamNCL]

The question was why it was the same level in both directions! If it is, I’ve flown it a few times and cannot remember if it is the case, I suspect it is just an exception to the semicircular rule which occurs here and there.

Why wouldnt it fly at FL290 in both directions ? There isnt much need to go higher into more crowded airspace for such a short flight.

[Fly757X]

Why wouldnt it fly at FL290 in both directions ? There isnt much need to go higher into more crowded airspace for such a short flight.

He's not pointing out that it is relatively low, he is pointing out that this is a exception to the Semi-Circular Rule.

[Chesty Morgan]

Why wouldnt it fly at FL290 in both directions ? There isnt much need to go higher into more crowded airspace for such a short flight.

Imagine two aeroplanes flying in opposite directions at the same level along the same airway. That’s why, generally, they wouldn’t.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

LBA-SXF is down as a 733 all year. The 733 has a lower cruise altitude than a 738 and due to the short distance 29,000 is the optimum altitude for that aircraft on that route so thats why you will see FL290 more often than not.

Nah, I’m not having that. I don’t know the reason that it was at FL290, but that most definitely would not be the most optimum level to cruise at in a B733 for a flight of that distance. We regularly used to operate theANS to LBA at FL360.

[A320.b744]

Not wishing to drag this out, but from the data I can see from the last few weeks, LS471 LBA-SXF is flown at FL290, but the return LS472 SXF-LBA is flown at either FL300 or FL320. I can find no record of the flight being flown at FL290 in both directions.

[LiamNCL]

Nah, I’m not having that. I don’t know the reason that it was at FL290, but that most definitely would not be the most optimum level to cruise at in a B733 for a flight of that distance. We regularly used to operate theANS to LBA at FL360.

G-CELE/O/Y G-GDFG/L/M have all operated LBA-SXF at FL290 the last many weeks

Return leg is usually at FL300

But whatever it is FL290 seems to be the preferred altitude for that sector at least.

[Flitefone]

G-CELE/O/Y G-GDFG/L/M have all operated LBA-SXF at FL290 the last many weeks

Return leg is usually at FL300

But whatever it is FL290 seems to be the preferred altitude for that sector at least.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LBb71gIgYnk

[BFS BHD]

Anyone know when Summer 2019 will go on sale?

[inOban]

Last year it was in early April.

[sixchannel]

Good question. Wonder if they are still pondering what their costs abroad might be Post-Brexit? I also wonder if J2 will look at expanding non-EU destinations like Turkey in case of price hikes within EU for landing fees, fuel, hotel costs, ancilliares like Transfers etc? As a "retired" accounting professional, such thoughts are mind boggling.
Me? Fingers crossed that FUE remains the value for money destination in The Canaries.

[HH6702]

Should be any day now Thomas cook is on sale now TUI is April 5th on sale

[Plane.Silly]

Historically, LS have gone on sale around April time, doing 2/3 bases at a time. New destinations often don't get revealed until the main programme (i.e same flights from last year) are all on sale.

They don't have many more Spanish options that fit their holiday theme, so Non-eu must be on the cards somewhere down the line.

[BFS BHD]

Thanks hopefully be available soon then. :)

[BAladdy]

Anyone know when Summer 2019 will go on sale?

Flights from NCL and BFS went on sale today.

[Seljuk22]

BHX and STN will have 9 based aircraft this summer
https://www.jet2.com/News/Celebrating_our_first_birthday_at_London_Stansted_and_Birmin gham_Airports/

[P330]

Does anyone know how long Jet2 plan on keeping their 733s?

I thought they were gradually being replaced but it seems many will still be going strong well into 2019.

We have a flight booked to Naples with them next year and it appears to be showing a seat map for a 733.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

733’s

I don’t know exactly, but they will be running for another couple of years yet as a minimum. Some of the 733’s are newer than some of the 738’s.

[Seljuk22]

STN will have 10 based aircraft this summer
https://www.jet2.com/News/Flying_High_at_London_Stans-Ten/

Summer 2019

BHX up to 11 based aircraft
https://www.jet2.com/News/Phwoar_new_destinations_for_Summer_19_from_Birmingham_Airpor t/

GLA with a 7th based aircraft
https://www.jet2.com/News/Summer_19_from_Glasgow_Airport_is_a_scorcher/

EMA
https://www.jet2.com/News/A_hol_lot_more_sun_from_East_Midlands_Airport_for_Summer_19/

EDI
https://www.jet2.com/News/Summer_19_is_on_sale_from_Edinburgh_Airport/

BFS
https://www.jet2.com/News/Summer_Sun_for_2019_from_Belfast_International__NOW_ON_SALE/

[A380.Q400]

Does anyone know how long Jet2 plan on keeping their 733s?

I thought they were gradually being replaced but it seems many will still be going strong well into 2019.

We have a flight booked to Naples with them next year and it appears to be showing a seat map for a 733.

I heard there were plans to keep some B733s (about 10-12) until at least 2022. There are currently 18 B733s in the fleet, with just 14 B738s on order. Many of these new B738s are being used for expansion at BHX and STN, meaning there aren't enough B738s to replace existing B733s.

[shamrock7seal]

Where Next will Jet2 expand in the U.K.

I am actually a bit surprised they are able to sustain such a high share price given their expansion options are limited. They do seem to be doing well up against Ryanair at STN which I am flabbergasted by.

Plans for 757 replacement?

Other U.K. airports being considered?

Long-haul A330’s?

Partnership with IAG?

[irishlad06]

There are 2 B733 due for retirement in the next 2 weeks // GCELG and GCELK I think.

They won’t expand into anymore UK airports for a while unless a huge opportunity presents itself. They are now going to concentrate on growing their existing bases as evident by the schedule release for each new base so far.

There are two more aircraft due for delivery before the end of April that that’s all of the original order of 30 delivered. The top up order of 4 will start delivery in August and finish in January 2019. I doubt we will see any new aircraft ordered after this until we get a replacement for the B757 fleet.

The plan is for STN and BHX to grow to the size of the MAN base if the market takes it. They are expanding in self handling with currently this summer LBA/MAN/EMA/BHX/STN, ALC and TFS all fully self handle stations. (Their own staff on all parts of the ground from check in to bag loading and dispatch)

If EDI get 7 aircraft next summer and NCL that is the magic number for self handling to work so they might see self handling introduced. Costs more upfront but because you have 100% control over your operation then you get more repeat custom so makes them money in the long run.

There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations.

In terms of growth they are continuing to acquire 2nd hand B738’s (GDRTC/D/E and F acquired for this summer) so I expect at least another 4 for next year including the leases in aircraft. 6 in total this summer.

GPOWN
GPOWT
YL-LCV
GVYGL
GPOWH
ECIDT

[nwoody2001]

Thanks for the update irish lad, and as a BHX follower, im excited to hear that they plan to make BHX as big as MAN if the market can take it.... very encouraging...


With regard to bases, if there any updated information regard the size of each base in Birmingham 2018 and 2019. be interesting to see how these compare with eachother?

[Flying Wild]

For the second year running, Jet2.com has won the Best Airline – UK and Best Low-Cost Airline – Europe awards, as customers yet again put them ahead of the competition. In addition to these two accolades, Jet2.com have also won the Best Economy Class - Europe award.
To cap it all off Jet2.com is also the only UK and European airline to be recognised as one of the Top 10 Airlines in the World – coming 7th in the prestigious list.

What makes these awards even more rewarding is that they are based on the experiences of paying customers, which makes them truly representative. There is not a ‘one-off vote’ or panel of industry experts involved, instead these awards are based on the quantity and quality of millions of reviews and ratings for airlines worldwide gathered over the last 12-months. Of nearly 10,000 reviews on TripAdvisor, almost 90% of Jet2.com’s reviews are rated as ‘excellent’ or ‘very good’, with travellers praising them in particular for customer service, cleanliness, value for money and check-in and boarding.

[Mooncrest]

CELK has already left the fleet - she was retired last year. I don't know about CELG but my information is that CELH will be retired in the coming weeks.

[P330]

Thanks for the 733 update - much appreciated.

I would assume the CExx batch will be the ones going first given some are over 30 years old now. The remaining aircraft as you say are in some cases younger than the oldest 738s so presumably will be the ones staying until 2022.

What has the reliability of the 733s been of late?

[Plane.Silly]

There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations.

Any details on this? would be very interesting to see what they have lined up.

Also to throw my hat in the pool, i would imagine around 8-10 B733's would still be in service for 2019. they're all over 30 years old now, but Jet2 don't use them as much as other airlines do(did) so they can afford to keep them longer. Not heard of any major issues lately so i would imagine they're still in good working order, but wait until the season ramps up, then you might get a taste of what old age does.

[LAX_LHR]

For new routes, I would bet that Bulgaria must be on the cards. Bourgas seems to be a big missing link in their network, especially with Jet2 holidays.

As for other routes, could Sicily be on the cards? Seems to be a decent trade in holidays to Catania so perhaps one Jet2 could jump in to? The only o5er routes I could see are perhaps another Greek island like Mykonos or Santorini? Hotel Capacity might be a bit tight on those islands though...

[Plane.Silly]

Is it also where we see the arrival of GIB that was hypothesised ages ago?

They have to go outside of Spain now, surely. They've got all the main holiday spots. So Bourgas sounds plausible

As for Sicily, they tried Sardinia years ago and doesn't look like it was a good success. I might suspect Sicily follows a similar pattern

[A380.Q400]

Is it also where we see the arrival of GIB that was hypothesised ages ago?

I can't see them flying to GIB given that Jet2 already have a substantial operation at nearby AGP, and they have also expanded their offering from LEI in the last couple of years.

I think that the most likely contenders will be new routes to Bulgaria and Greece, though I reckon there is also some scope to add one or two more destinations in Italy and Turkey. I also wonder if Jet2 will make the move into Africa, with flights to Egypt and Tunisia. Thomas Cook and TUI are beginning to resume their North African flights, and the region is definitely a growing market for UK tourism.

[MKY661]

Is it also where we see the arrival of GIB that was hypothesised ages ago?


Let's hope so, GIB has lost quite a bit of traffic since Monarch went, MAN reduced to 3pw (and EasyJet have also downgraded the aircraft) and both LTN & BHX are now unserved, although if they were to do it then they would probably do it from STN rather than LTN.

[rog747]

GIB is OK for A320/319 and 757 (and 733/734/737-700) Ops.

738 and 737Max has to operate into GIB under quite restricted payload and performance penalties
which = we won't make money on restricted payloads

[Plane.Silly]

Would be a good reason to keep the 733's a bit longer...

[Mooncrest]

The company needs to think long-term about the 733s. OK for ballpark places like Gibraltar for two or three years but ultimately in need of replacement. The latest 737-700 would seem logical.

[PDXCWL45]

There are 2 B733 due for retirement in the next 2 weeks // GCELG and GCELK I think.

They won’t expand into anymore UK airports for a while unless a huge opportunity presents itself. They are now going to concentrate on growing their existing bases as evident by the schedule release for each new base so far.

There are two more aircraft due for delivery before the end of April that that’s all of the original order of 30 delivered. The top up order of 4 will start delivery in August and finish in January 2019. I doubt we will see any new aircraft ordered after this until we get a replacement for the B757 fleet.

The plan is for STN and BHX to grow to the size of the MAN base if the market takes it. They are expanding in self handling with currently this summer LBA/MAN/EMA/BHX/STN, ALC and TFS all fully self handle stations. (Their own staff on all parts of the ground from check in to bag loading and dispatch)

If EDI get 7 aircraft next summer and NCL that is the magic number for self handling to work so they might see self handling introduced. Costs more upfront but because you have 100% control over your operation then you get more repeat custom so makes them money in the long run.

There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations.

In terms of growth they are continuing to acquire 2nd hand B738’s (GDRTC/D/E and F acquired for this summer) so I expect at least another 4 for next year including the leases in aircraft. 6 in total this summer.

GPOWN
GPOWT
YL-LCV
GVYGL
GPOWH
ECIDT
Where are they going to get the extra aircraft from to expand the likes of BHX and STN to sizes comparable to MAN and keep on expanding their other bases?
And why would they leave an obvious gap in their network like South Wales and the South West any longer than necessary?

[azz767]

Whose got good examples of 737-700’s that are going to be available? A few of the American airlines maybe?

[paully]

The Spanish seem to be holding out an Olive branch to Gibraltar, at the moment and are openly wanting to share use of the, presently underused,airport facility. The fact that they are openly talking usually means the negotiations are at an advanced stage.

Both sides are desperate to kick start the economy of the Campo area and see the airport as a big part of that. Where political agreement is formed, big business always follows. You never know.

I understand that the new 738`s were fitted with the `short field `pack that makes them suitable for such a short runway, but I could be wrong.

[pamann]

I think Santorini is a certain for 2019, Mykonos I'm not sure there are enough hotel rooms surplus on the island to justify multiple flights.

Chania is a good option too. After that I can see Bourgas/Varna or Tunisia.

Any idea when they plan to announce the new routes for Summer 2019?

[L1649]

Both G-CELF and G-CELG are due to operate their last service on 23/4/18.

[L1649]

What has the reliability of the 733s been of late?

Not too good. I believe six of them were AOG this last Saturday. :uhoh:

[snowman 1]

l1649
where did that info come from??

[L1649]

l1649
where did that info come from??

From a very reliable source.

[HH6702]

ive heard new routes also but im guessing bulgaria first and another part of turkey or another greek route

[skyhawk1]

There are 2 B733 due for retirement in the next 2 weeks // GCELG and GCELK I think.

They won’t expand into anymore UK airports for a while unless a huge opportunity presents itself. They are now going to concentrate on growing their existing bases as evident by the schedule release for each new base so far.

There are two more aircraft due for delivery before the end of April that that’s all of the original order of 30 delivered. The top up order of 4 will start delivery in August and finish in January 2019. I doubt we will see any new aircraft ordered after this until we get a replacement for the B757 fleet.

The plan is for STN and BHX to grow to the size of the MAN base if the market takes it. They are expanding in self handling with currently this summer LBA/MAN/EMA/BHX/STN, ALC and TFS all fully self handle stations. (Their own staff on all parts of the ground from check in to bag loading and dispatch)

If EDI get 7 aircraft next summer and NCL that is the magic number for self handling to work so they might see self handling introduced. Costs more upfront but because you have 100% control over your operation then you get more repeat custom so makes them money in the long run.

There will soon be 3 new destinations to be announced for S19. MAN along with other bases will serve all 3 new destinations.

In terms of growth they are continuing to acquire 2nd hand B738’s (GDRTC/D/E and F acquired for this summer) so I expect at least another 4 for next year including the leases in aircraft. 6 in total this summer.

GPOWN
GPOWT
YL-LCV
GVYGL
GPOWH
ECIDT

NCL already have 7 based aircraft plus ALC and PMI based aircraft pop in during the summer. Also winter market breaks and New York in winter yet still don’t self handle.

[ssflyer]

Why not Nice and Marseilles?
SSF

[OltonPete]

Why not Nice and Marseilles?
SSF

Nice is already offered from Leeds and Manchester but for BHX it should be nailed on and I am amazed it hasn't been announced. Monarch BHX-NCE was never stellar but I can't see any reason why Jet2 wouldn't be able to make it work.

Lisbon would be useful but I can't see then trying that at Manchester. Certainly Bulgaria seems a good guess and maybe a North African destination.

Still plenty to choose from at BHX.

Pete

[daz211]

Maybe Tunisia or Egypt, think I would also like to see VCE from Stansted up against Ryanair On the route VCE is much more convenient than TSF.

[rog747]

JMK and JTR are pretty much maxed out on many days hence Norwegian basically operate almost a night fight as does TUI and TCK on a couple - BRS for example so
until both airports sort their handling and facilities out I cannot see many more ops there - and some UK airlines do not do night ops into JMK

a 738 going into GIB suffers at a 62 tonne MLW into there - my pal is a skipper at DY he has all the figures for both the MAX too - operationally/financially its a no-go for them even with short field performance

[azz767]

Could Iceland be an outside chance? Ever increasing flights from MAN, just see the MAN thread. EZY seem to be testing the waters from various bases but there should be opportunity for EXS from some of their bases no?

[Plane.Silly]

Loving all the speculation. to offer my 2 pennies....

Marseilles - Great for adding France / city destinations but difficult to justify, due to limited 'beach' offering.
Bulgaria (Burgas/Varna). Heard quite a bit of speculation on this, and would be a good shout. Only issue would be how much they can get. at 4hrs from the UK, could they get the revenue they need to keep it alive? (regardless of which bird they use)
Tunisia - They dipped their toe in 2011 - didnt work, tried again 2015 - terror attack. Sensing a theme of 4 years here so maybe back on for 2019? It is on the up again.
Egypt - Would imagine only the B752's could realistically do it, isn't it right on the limit for B738's. 733's have no chance
Iceland - can see the appeal, but with the large amount of incumbants across the UK, and it's preference for transfers to the USA, i'd be surprised.
GIB - would be good, but the 738 restriction will hold this back, unless it's solely on B733's (B752 in MAN due to no 733's based)

The remaining 3 bases should be on sale in the next couple of weeks so we may find out then...

[inOban]

Morocco for a citybreak?

[LAX_LHR]

For Egypt, possibly Hurgarda or Marsha Alam? They seem to have continued unabaited despite the Sharm issues?

[rog747]

For Egypt, possibly Hurgarda or Marsha Alam? They seem to have continued unabaited despite the Sharm issues?

dunno about anyone new venturing into egypt right now -
pretty darn well killed off poor old monarch due to the massive downturn since revolution then SSH metrojet crash
marsa alarm and hurghada still have UK flights but way lower than before.
all it needs is one more major security issue and that will be it
(does Thomson still go into Luxor?)

FYI
738/73MAX egypt if fine with max payload from most UK airports
asateaus 737-700 did Taba Aswan SSH Luxor etc no issues
733 is not restricted that much going down that way either range c2500m

[MKY661]

a 738 going into GIB suffers at a 62 tonne MLW into there - my pal is a skipper at DY he has all the figures for both the MAX too - operationally/financially its a no-go for them even with short field performance

Wonder what might have happened if Monarch were still trading with a 737 MAX fleet then?

[rog747]

Wonder what might have happened if Monarch were still trading with a 737 MAX fleet then?

airbus route for OM (previously 757) - they were not getting rid of them that quick

you do make a good valid point though - what were MON thinking if the whole fleet was 737MAX eventually -

[LBIA]

Murcia san Javier Airport closes in December with fights swapping over, I wonder if the new Corvera Airport in Murcia will be classed as a new route?

[Plane.Silly]

Ah Corvera, the wonderful airport slap bang in the middle of nowhere and also in a no fly zone. It takes an extra 1/2 hour to/from the UK to detour past LEI to be able to land/takeoff. I can see Jet2 just ditching it altogether and transferring the flights to ALC.

Assuming they do carry on with it, it'll definitely be a 'New route', they'll need to make a song and dance about it to introduce the airport to everyone, and get the route selling

[Mr A Tis]

Spain must be the only country in the world to have three "brand new" airports all closed.
Castillon, Ciudad Real & Corvera. Meanwhile in the UK we can't even build runway without taking half a century.
I can't see why anyone would want to fly to Corvera ? The whole point of the airport was to service the proposed mega theme park, which will never see the light of day either. Might as well fly to Alicante.

[compton3bravo]

Castellan is not closed, Corvera is not yet operational. Most who fly to Murcia go to the la Manga area and southwards. Please do your research please Mr Atis.

[Seljuk22]

Leeds summer 2019 schedule
https://www.jet2.com/News/49_destinations_from_Leeds_Bradford_for_Summer_19/

[FRatSTN]

Manchester Summer'19 schedule released.
https://www.jet2.com/News/Summer_19_and_Ooh_la_La_Rochelle_from_Manchester_Airport/

Had a look also to see what the ALC and PMI bases are doing. At the moment only a requirement for 1x aircraft at ALC (2x based for Summer'18).

PMI still looking like 2x aircraft however lots of gaps despite STN the only UK base to still go on sale. Looks as though PMI crew, and possibly ALC if it does stay as 2x aircraft, could be doing most of the STN sectors.

[Plane.Silly]

If thats where the gaps are, it'll likely be operating these STN sectors. They won't want to keep that aircraft idle for longer than necessary.

Had a look at the MAN schedule too. Nice to see LRH making an entrance, following from EGC for S18, those lovely french cities. I fell sorry for the Corresponding LBA sectors on this though, surely MAN will just cannibalise these.

Also saw a 2nd A330 is coming into the fleet. Probably early days, but does anyone have an idea where this is coming from. I would have said Air Tanker, but all 4 A330's are spoken for...aren't they?

[chaps1954]

I am led to believe HiFly

[BAladdy]

Anyone know when LS plan to release there S19 flights from STN?

[Plane.Silly]

Anyone know when LS plan to release there S19 flights from STN?

Since all the other bases are on sale, MAN from the 17th, i would say no later than the end of April. Maybe they've saved the best for last?

[BAladdy]

Does anyone know if LS plan to reduce the number of aircraft at EDI from late JUL19?. It’s just I notice few routes see a reduction in frequencies from 22JUL19 or 29JUL19 Details below:

Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 22JUL19

Alicante - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly
Dalaman - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Girona - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.
Malaga - Frequency reduces from 6 to 5 x weekly
Palma - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly.
Rhodes - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.
Tenerife - Frequency reduces from 4 to 3 x weekly.
Zante - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.

Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 29JUL19

Antalya - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Faro - Frequency reduces from Daily to 6 x weekly
Fuerteventura - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Heraklion - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Mahon - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Reus - Frequency reduces from 3 to 2 x weekly.

According to current schedule no routes see a increase in frequency from late July.

[inOban]

Two possibilities come to mind.

The peak holiday season from Edinburgh is the first two weeks in July - school holidays in Scotland start at the end of June, and the first two weeks are the traditional 'Trades' holidays.

Or maybe an additional 738 is replacing a 733, although several of the routes you list would use a 738 anyway.

[Plane.Silly]

Good theory InOban.
For a couple of years, over the end july-Beginning Sep period, GLA would swap a 738 with a 733 from EMA, to help with Engligh summer hols. Maybe this year instead of that swap, they've just sent the entire aircraft down?

As to where it could go, could be any of the British bases (or all of them, if it operates 'W' Patterns)

Just a thought...

[OltonPete]

Does anyone know if LS plan to reduce the number of aircraft at EDI from late JUL19?. It’s just I notice few routes see a reduction in frequencies from 22JUL19 or 29JUL19 Details below:

Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 22JUL19

Alicante - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly
Dalaman - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Girona - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.
Malaga - Frequency reduces from 6 to 5 x weekly
Palma - Frequency reduces from daily to 6 x weekly.
Rhodes - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.
Tenerife - Frequency reduces from 4 to 3 x weekly.
Zante - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly.

Frequency Reductions from Week Commencing 29JUL19

Antalya - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Faro - Frequency reduces from Daily to 6 x weekly
Fuerteventura - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Heraklion - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Mahon - Frequency reduces from 2 to 1 x weekly
Reus - Frequency reduces from 3 to 2 x weekly.

According to current schedule no routes see a increase in frequency from late July.

I am sure no coincidence that these dates match the period of the 9th aircraft based at BHX for the 6 - 7 week Midlands school holiday period.

Pete

[olster]

Max 10s for Jet2...?

[Fly757X]

Max 10s for Jet2...?

Doubt it, the 757s are supposed to be staying for a while despite their age. Most, if not all of them recently had LCD screens retrofitted into the cockpits.

[pabloc]

I thought jet2 are operating 2 Airtanker 330’s,TC the other 2??

[chaps1954]

Think Air Tanker only have 3 available for commercial use i:e 2 to TCX and 1 to LS so LS will have to source another from someone else.

[LAX_LHR]

I think one is coming off MT lease after this summer and then backfill with an ex Scandinavia A333 (to become G-TCXD).

LS could then take the 2nd Air Tanker.

[daz211]

Just been checking STN Wiki page and Monastir Habib Bourguiba International Airport is down as starting May 05th 2018, this is obviously not happening as not in the booking section of Jet2 website, however could it be an error and should read 2019, I know nothing has officially been announced for summer 2019 but just thought I would share my findings.

[pamann]

Just been checking STN Wiki page and Monastir Habib Bourguiba International Airport is down as starting May 05th 2018, this is obviously not happening as not in the booking section of Jet2 website, however could it be an error and should read 2019, I know nothing has officially been announced for summer 2019 but just thought I would share my findings.

Just had a look it appears to have been removed.

Monastir would be an odd choice seeing that the holiday operators now use Enfidha, and had done for a few years before the break in flights.

[daz211]

Just had a look it appears to have been removed.

Monastir would be an odd choice seeing that the holiday operators now use Enfidha, and had done for a few years before the break in flights.

Your correct it has vanished from wiki, very strange as I posted as soon as I seen it and yes it would have been a very strange destination given most airlines now or soon will be returning to Enfidha.

Hopefully we will see the release of summer 19 this coming week.

[GLAspotter]

Anyone know dates when the four ex-Transaero B737-800's are due in service for Jet2?

[EK77WNCL]

Looks as if Bourgas is to be Jet2's newest destination, schedules loaded for Summer 2019 from:

MAN - x2 weekly
BHX - x2 weekly
GLA - x1 weekly
EDI - x1 weekly
LBA - x1 weekly

NCL, BFS, EMA are listed but yet to show schedules. STN is not listed

A quick dig through the Jet2 booking engine also suggests that the following will be new routes:

Izmir:

MAN - x2 weekly
BHX, GLA, LBA, NCL - x1 weekly

Chania:

MAN - x2 weekly
BHX, LBA - x1 weekly

Lleida seems to be a new ski route from Stansted for W18/19

Very pleasing in my opinion!

[Lon12]

Where is Valencia in Jet2...? Lol

[EK77WNCL]

Jet2 stopped flying to Valencia about 10 years ago

[Plane.Silly]

So most peoples suspicions were right about BOJ. Chania (CHQ) also seemed a decnt option given its size, operations at HER and that FR have just pulled out. Could that have been a last minute addition?

As for Izmir, didn't see that coming, but with the Turkish Revival, not surprising.

Where is Valencia in Jet2

Not this year it seems, maybe for 2020?

[LBIA]

Murcia Corvera is now on sale for summer 2019. It will operate 3x Weekly (Mon, Wed and Fri) from both LBA & MAN.

[daz211]

Wonder why Stansted 2019 is taking so long to be announced I did hear last year that they were planning a big base increase with upto 14 based aircraft for peak summer 19 not sure if this will still be the case with the utilisation on based aircraft from ALC and PMI but I’m still expecting big things for Stansted just have to wait a bit longer to find out the details.

[LBAflyer22]

Wonder why Stansted 2019 is taking so long to be announced I did hear last year that they were planning a big base increase with upto 14 based aircraft for peak summer 19 not sure if this will still be the case with the utilisation on based aircraft from ALC and PMI but I’m still expecting big things for Stansted just have to wait a bit longer to find out the details.

Could it be that they are waiting for STN to confirm slots for them?

Also 14 aircraft will require a substantial increase on a vast amount of routes. Will the market sustain that.

[LBIA]

Are LBA and MAN the only airports? Jet2 also serve EDI and NCL from Murcia Jan Javier - surely they'd be transferred to the new Murcia Corvera airport as well.

According to Jet2's press release its only the LBA and MAN routes being transferred from MJV to RMU . The is no mention of either EDI and NCL.

https://www.jet2.com/News/Jet2_com_announces_take_off_at_Corvera_Airport/

[newmaney]

According to Jet2's press release its only the LBA and MAN routes being transferred from MJV to RMU . The is no mention of either EDI and NCL.

Bit of a strange press release and perhaps Jet2 may be trying to take a flyer on other airlines but not committing to transfer of all routes at this time. Jet2 were the only airline that publicly backed Covera and put out a press release several years ago that they were transferring imminently to Corvera and that never happened as the airport never opened. With the operational concession removed from the previous company a few months ago, Corvera now has to re-undertake approvals procedure for the new operator AENA to open Corvera. The previous concessionary is now suing for damages and local land owners have not been paid for land taken to build the airport, so a lot of legal arguments still ongoing. A lot of the equipment at Corvera is obsolete and has not been maintained so the airport needs a complete survey. Knowing how things move over here in this region, slowly, no one can predict when approvals will be given and politicians have only declared Corvera will be operational from the end of the year - which might have something to do with regional elections and to look good. Operational or ready for a airline to fly in/out could be two different timescales. Also worth noting that a plane no bigger than a twin prop has landed at Corvera so at some point an airline will have to test the airport with a passenger plane.

[Plane.Silly]

Also worth noting that a plane no bigger than a twin prop has landed at Corvera so at some point an airline will have to test the airport with a passenger plane.

From what i can see, LBA is on a B733 (148 seats) and MAN is on a B738 (189 seats). A 3k m runway would be more than sufficient for takeoff/landing.
with only the 2 routes being on sale for now i would imagine (like others have suggested) they're dipping their toe in the water. If things go well, we may yet see the re-introduction of NCL/EDI, maybe even more?
Still think it's a totally bonkers airport so for now, well done to Jet2 for commiting but don't be surprised if things don't work out like MJV did

[_aax1]

Jet2 website showing Bourgas, Izmir and Chania as new routes from STN on their homepage advertisement. I imagine next week we will hear an offical announcement.

[garry8g]

Jet2 latest Boeing 737-800, G-JZBM is the latest aircraft that has been delivered to Jet2 overnight.

She arrived into LBA at around 07:19 this morning.

[EI-BUD]

The Jet2 statement said that San Javier airport will close at the end of November 2018!!! San Javier is convenient for the largely inbound tourist make up going to the coastal places close to MJV and Murcia. Corvera seems to be quite in land and for this reason I wouldn't be surprised if Alicante/Altet will pick up some of the traditional MJV bound pax...

[newmaney]

From what i can see, LBA is on a B733 (148 seats) and MAN is on a B738 (189 seats). A 3k m runway would be more than sufficient for takeoff/landing.
with only the 2 routes being on sale for now i would imagine (like others have suggested) they're dipping their toe in the water. If things go well, we may yet see the re-introduction of NCL/EDI, maybe even more?
Still think it's a totally bonkers airport so for now, well done to Jet2 for commiting but don't be surprised if things don't work out like MJV did

The runway is not the problem. It's the angle of decent and the surrounding terrain that has yet to be proven with a passenger plane.

[newmaney]

The Jet2 statement said that San Javier airport will close at the end of November 2018!!! San Javier is convenient for the largely inbound tourist make up going to the coastal places close to MJV and Murcia. Corvera seems to be quite in land and for this reason I wouldn't be surprised if Alicante/Altet will pick up some of the traditional MJV bound pax...

I believe the plan is that San Javier should be fully closed by end of Jan 2019 (but this is Spain so who knows). I can't access the Jet2 Facebook page for information at the moment so cannot confirm this, but other people posting on various forums in this region who have seen the Jet2 Facebook page are saying that Jet2 will reduce the number of routes to the Murcia region from 4 to 2 (ie 4 routes went into MJV and only 2 will go into Corvera when it opens) and Jet2 will strengthen their presence at Alicante/El-Altet. A lot of people on the Southern Costa Blanca used MJV for convenience but Corvera is now further than travelling to Alicante/El-Altet.

[Plane.Silly]

Anyone else a bit surprised STN still hasn't gone on sale for S19.

Either they're struggling with the airport (though with MAN/EMA also in the portfolio, this would seem unlikely), or they have something very special planned.

[LAX_LHR]

Looking at how they added extra capacity quite late on for this season, I’d be surprised if they were struggling with STN to be honest.

Obviously that doesn’t answer why STN is being launched later than all the other airports, but I’m sure we will find out in due course what they have planned.

[LBAflyer22]

I don't think they are struggling Planesilly. That extra capacity is coming from a further leased aircraft - which suggests that Jet2 at STN are not struggling but rather performing beyond the expectations.

It was also added quite late on in the year again suggesting that they can fill the plane, profitably.

Looking at the timetable ... Burgas has appeared in the drop down box. So would imagine today the timetable is going to be uploaded with the announcement tomorrow.

One last thing - could it be that Jet2 are waiting on STN to release the slots. If rumours are to believed that they want a 12 to 14 base aircraft they very much could be waiting on STN to confirm slots.

[Plane.Silly]

I should have made it slightly clearer. I meant to say they'd be struggling with communicating with the airports owners MAG (which also own MAN and EMA), whether they're still coming to an agreement

I'd heard the expansion rumours too. 12 seems more likely than 14. But i didn't think slots were too much of an issue at this stage, they normally get confirmed at Slot Conferences later in the year

[daz211]

I had heard 14 based aircraft but that was before the ALC and PMI based aircraft was announced.
so I would expect a minimum of 12 based aircraft for peak summer 2019 but wouldn’t be surprised if it was more.

[Junta Leader]

It appears to be on sale now and looking for some more -800s at STN:

https://www.jet2.com/News/Three_new_destinations_and_a_bumper_Summer_19_from_London_St ansted/

[Phantom Phixer]

G-GDFY currently returning a day late from KGS after yesterdays outbound from MAN (LS743) , anyone know why?

[bladesman]

Just a quick question,

Are this years leased a321/a330/757 aircraft fitted out with the jet2 cabin like VGYL was last year? Particularly the Titan 757 with it retaining the Titan livery and not recieving jet2 titles.

And does anybody know where the second a330 is coming from yet?

cheers

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

anyone know why?

Yes, I know.

And does anybody know where the second a330 is coming from yet?

There isn’t a 2nd A330 for S18, there will be 2 for S19 though.

[garry8g]

Has anyone any updates on the four ex-Transaero B737-800's and know dates when they are due to start flying for Jet2?

[Stanstedeye]

The Titan 757 (which was for Leeds) appears to be replaced at STN TOM for a second 321.

[L1649]

Has anyone any updates on the four ex-Transaero B737-800's and know dates when they are due to start flying for Jet2?
TD in service around 21/5 and TC around 30/5.

[LBIA]

Titan Airways Boeing 757-200, G-POWH is not due to start operating for Jet2 from LBA until May 24th..

[BasilFawlty]

G-POWH is most likely temporary subbing for the second A321, of which the delivery has been delayed it seems.

[GLAinsider]

Titan Airways Boeing 757-200, G-POWH is not due to start operating for Jet2 from LBA until May 24th..
G-POWH is currently in STN and is substituting for A321 G-POWN.

[garry8g]

TD in service around 21/5 and TC around 30/5.

Thanks for the info!

[castleford tiger]

ANYONE know why LS251 the 8.15 to FARO went around yesterday. Weather was good and whilst I saw it do this the climb out was pretty harsh. I understand it happens just wondered if anyone knew why. There was a third pilot in the cockpit so possible training?

Thanks

[Garstag]

G-POWH si actually replacing G-POWV, which has now arrived at Stansted

[nonfrequentflyer_NCL]

Anyone know which Jet2 is scheduled out of NCL to Ibiza May 29th, 6am flight? Anyone off here working it?

[LiamNCL]

Anyone know which Jet2 is scheduled out of NCL to Ibiza May 29th, 6am flight? Anyone off here working it?

Boeing 737-800

[nonfrequentflyer_NCL]

Boeing 737-800

Ah thanks. I enjoyed flying on the 737 800 last year with TUI so hope this one is equally as nice to fly out on. :ok:

[Stanstedeye]

Titan 757 POWH has been replaced today by Jet2 757 LSAC at STN, working the PMI this morning. Has AC worked out of STN before ?

[Plane.Silly]

Titan 757 POWH has been replaced today by Jet2 757 LSAC at STN, working the PMI this morning. Has AC worked out of STN before ?

Not to my knowledge. Majority of flights have been on B738's (which doesn't include any G-LSA#'s). Otherwise they've have Titan's and other leased a/c in to provide extra.

The B757's (All G-LSA#'s) are normally either in LBA or MAN

[Garstag]

Titan 757 POWH has been replaced today by Jet2 757 LSAC at STN, working the PMI this morning. Has AC worked out of STN before ?

G-POWH went tech in Alicante yesterday

[irishlad06]

Not to my knowledge. Majority of flights have been on B738's (which doesn't include any G-LSA#'s). Otherwise they've have Titan's and other leased a/c in to provide extra.

The B757's (All G-LSA#'s) are normally either in LBA or MAN

some of the b757’s worked the NYC flights to EWR last Christmas - think it was just AK and AN though as they have the higher MTOW

[irishlad06]

G-POWH si actually replacing G-POWV, which has now arrived at Stansted


GPOWH will work for the next 5 days or so until GPOWT is ready for service.

GPOWH will then go to LBA.

GPOWD will do a flight from STN next week and GPOWS will also operate from EMA for a day

[LBIA]

G-LSAC has this evening positioned from STN back to LBA.

[Plane.Silly]

some of the b757’s worked the NYC flights to EWR last Christmas - think it was just AK and AN though as they have the higher MTOW

I stand corrected. Had a 'head in the sun moment' and thought STN used the A332, forgetting they scaled back

[Habana2118]

What is the set up in the two Spanish bases in terms of crew? Are they local seasonal based crews in PMI and ALC or are the based aircraft flown by UK night stopping crews?

[lbalad]

What is the set up in the two Spanish bases in terms of crew? Are they local seasonal based crews in PMI and ALC or are the based aircraft flown by UK night stopping crews?

I sat next to an English Jet2 flight attendant that said she was based in Alicante when we went to Benidorm in Dec last year.I got the impression she lived in Alicante as she had been back to England visiting family.

[BFS BHD]

Has G-CELF, G-CELG, G-CELX & G-CELY all left the fleet?

[daz211]

B767 is down for tomorrow mornings STN-ACE, I presume operated by Titan.

[Mooncrest]

CELX and CELY are still about. The last time I saw LX she was in the LBA hangar undergoing airframe maintenance. I don't know the whereabouts of LY - probably East Midlands or Newcastle. The others in the list have all left the fleet.

[BFS BHD]

CELX and CELY are still about. The last time I saw LX she was in the LBA hangar undergoing airframe maintenance. I don't know the whereabouts of LY - probably East Midlands or Newcastle. The others in the list have all left the fleet.

Thanks for the information! :)

[OltonPete]

CELX and CELY are still about. The last time I saw LX she was in the LBA hangar undergoing airframe maintenance. I don't know the whereabouts of LY - probably East Midlands or Newcastle. The others in the list have all left the fleet.

G-CELY flew Leeds Dublin 3rd April and nothing recorded since
G-CELX last flew 20th April (Leeds)
G-CELF flew Newcastle - St Athan 26th April
G-CELG flew East Midlands - St. Athan 24th April

Pete

[Mooncrest]

Any time. It's curious that LX is in the hangar (has been for weeks) when she's got a date with the scrapyard before long.

[Flying Wild]

LX and LY both in for maintenance until the end of the month.

[jethro15]

G-CELF flew Newcastle - St Athan 26th April
G-CELG flew East Midlands - St. Athan 24th April

Both canx as PWFU 18th May

[Mr A Tis]

Did G-DRTB have a problem in Dubrovnik yesterday?, went out on time from MAN but not returned. Passengers rescued by the Alicante based standby aircraft (G-GDFJ)

[irishlad06]

GDRTB is back in LBA today.

[sixchannel]

Is it me or is just about everything from Jet2 today not just a bit late but VERY LATE on t/o.

Must be a reason - Anyone?

[El Bunto]

I see that B738 G-DRTD was up for a jaunt from Dublin last night, 21 May.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2018-05-21/21:50/12x/EXS051H/11746b07

[lagerlout]

Is it me or is just about everything from Jet2 today not just a bit late but VERY LATE on t/o.


Must be a reason - Anyone?



French ATC strikes at a guess

[Mr A Tis]

Any news on G-LSAH ? From what I can see it went to Lasham 2 months ago and hasn't flown since. Given it's 30 years old, is it in for some TLC or is it going for spares?

[sixchannel]

For those who are interested a 75 is positioning from Manch to Stansted to operate the Zakynthos today.
That'll be G-LSAD just arriving STN 12.30. I guess the ZTH flight will be be late t/o. Due out 12.25.

[sixchannel]

[QUOTE=El Bunto;10153870]I see that B738 G-DRTD was up for a jaunt from Dublin last night, 21 May.


And today has just completed MAN - MAN via just south of NCL, out over North Sea and back. Nice day for it. Training Sorties?

[Flying Wild]

Any news on G-LSAH ? From what I can see it went to Lasham 2 months ago and hasn't flown since. Given it's 30 years old, is it in for some TLC or is it going for spares?
In for a C check. Should be out by the end of the month.

[irishlad06]

GPOWT running late for Titan so GPOWV will be used from tomorrow for the next few weeks - 10 seats less.

GZAPX also doing a few flights this week and next from STN.

GPOWH will posn to LBA tonight to start its summer up there again.

GVYGL is now in MAN and ready for operation tomorrow.

GDRTD positioned to MAN last night and should enter service tomorrow also.

GLSAH is in for C check in Lasham
GLSAE should be finished it’s C Check today in MAN and re-enter service this weekend
GLSAN has a few weeks to go yet.

Another new B738 to arrive the start of August which will allow the B738 C checks to begin again.

GDRTC should be ready to enter service in the next week or so - currently in for painting.

GDRTE and GDRTF estimated entry into service is the 1st July.

[Bam Thwok]

Another new B738 to arrive the start of August which will allow the B738 C checks to begin again.

GDRTC should be ready to enter service in the next week or so - currently in for painting.

GDRTE and GDRTF estimated entry into service is the 1st July.


If if only they had enough crew to fly them.......!

[Plane.Silly]

Didn't think crew shortages were a problem for LS, I've haven't heard much about them going short. Any further comment you can make to back that up Bam Thwok?

[irishlad06]

If if only they had enough crew to fly them.......!


Jet2 are one of the few companies that are actually fully crewed.

They are one of the only companies that crew to 100% and don’t rely on pilots to work on their days off for x amount of money unlike nearly every other airline in the UK.

They even go go as far as having up to 5 aircraft on standby at any one time that can be launched within an hour that have crews waiting at airports for them.

I woukdnt say say they are under crewed -

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Jet2 are one of the few companies that are actually fully crewed.

don’t rely on pilots to work on their days off for x amount of money unlike nearly every other airline in the UK.

I woukdnt say say they are under crewed


Irishlad - are you aircrew at Jet2?

[irishlad06]

Irishlad - are you aircrew at Jet2?

No Johnny - are you?

[shamrock7seal]

Je2 releasing BOH flights

[Robin757]

My flights to Berlin in December have had their flight times changed to a morning departure from LBA - suits me better, thank you Jet2! Can anyone tell me whether they are still scheduled for 300 series operation or are they now down to be a 800 series? (LS 471 and 472). Thank you

[rog747]

My flights to Berlin in December have had their flight times changed to a morning departure from LBA - suits me better, thank you Jet2! Can anyone tell me whether they are still scheduled for 300 series operation or are they now down to be a 800 series? (LS 471 and 472). Thank you

perhaps in your booking look at the seat plan?

[Plane.Silly]

Je2 releasing BOH flights

If it's true, they've been very quiet about it. Any details/ evidence of this?
Could just be a couple of charters rather than a full on base

[Flying Wild]

The other 700 odd pilots in the company might have a different opinion but so far for me it appears that there are plenty of crews at my base so far this year, the company appear to be doing the best they can to avoid roster changes and make a big thing of trying to improving roster stability.

I have not been asked to work a day off for over two years.

I understand that around 140 new pilots have joined the company for the summer season and some training is still on going.

I guess we will find out if Jet2 have enough pilots over the next 16 weeks.

Given the number of changes I and some of my colleagues have been having over the last few weeks, plus many out of base crews operating at our base, I'd say there's a fire fighting approach to crewing at the moment.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

No Johnny - are you?

In which case Irishlad how on earth would you know Jet2 are one of the few companies that are actually fully crewed. They are one of the only companies that crew to 100% and don’t rely on pilots to work on their days off for x amount of money unlike nearly every other airline in the UK. ??

Or I woukdnt say say they are under crewed that?


are you? - Yes I am.

[irishlad06]

Well Johnny - how many working days off have u sold back to the company in the last year or two?

Go work for TUI and u can count on two hands per month - at jet2.com u won’t have done 5 WDO’s in a year - totally unheard of as flight deck.

While yes yes there are a number of flights in June not covered on the roster it’s nithing compared to other airlines. While it might be 15 flights for the month - other airlines are 15 flights per day not covered.

[geordiejet]

Well Johnny - how many working days off have u sold back to the company in the last year or two?

Go work for TUI and u can count on two hands per month - at jet2.com u won’t have done 5 WDO’s in a year - totally unheard of as flight deck.

While yes yes there are a number of flights in June not covered on the roster it’s nithing compared to other airlines. While it might be 15 flights for the month - other airlines are 15 flights per day not covered.

Why am I getting deja vue here when I read your fanatically pro LS posts? Is that you Jet2_737-800?

[Bam Thwok]

irishlad........ you make many bold statements professing to be in the know regarding Jet2, but clearly you know absolutely nowt



No Johnny - are you?


The little fact that you don’t even know who Johnny is (and it’s no secret) blows you out of the water....

You clearly state you aren’t “aircrew” with Jet2, but feel that you have to post bold statements on here regarding our crewing issues ..... ??

But best of all, you now bring TUI into your argument......are you a self professed expert with all things TUI too ?
Your argument comparing days off worked by “aircrew” in both companies only proves how ignorant and naive you truly are.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Thank you BamBam.

Irishlad - Tui operate a totally different rostering/Crewing philosophy at the moment as far as I know. Their system will always have flights not covered, they pay handsomely for crew to give up their days off to cover those flights. This was shown when it was first introduced to save money in the long run by having less crew in the payroll. I understand that this is now under review.

I am am not going to start to get into any sort of numbers here in public, but I KNOW that your information is presently way off the mark.

[LiamNCL]

They even go go as far as having up to 5 aircraft on standby at any one time that can be launched within an hour that have crews waiting at airports for them.

I woukdnt say say they are under crewed -

NCL - LEI got as far as coventry before turning back this morning and still hasnt departed again and as a result LS555 NCL - IBZ is now cancelled so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense.

[SWBKCB]

NCL - LEI got as far as coventry before turning back this morning and still hasnt departed again and as a result LS555 NCL - IBZ is now cancelled so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense.

G-GDFE posn in to op LS551 to LEI, which departed about 16.00

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

so i would say that 5 aircraft standby is nonsense

Actually, that bit is just about right, however those 5 are occasionally all being used to help keep the program on the go due to delays, therefore there are occasions when, despite the best laid plans, things don't go accordingly.

[sixchannel]

Is that why Jet2 , as well as all the trumpet blowing about their new Boeings also rent 14 year old aircraft like the A321 YL-LCV?
Just askin' :-)

[chaps1954]

You bring extra aircraft in for the summer as otherwise they will sit around all winter which is a very expensive business and
not needed as do Thomas Cook and TUI and most other holiday airline in Europe.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Posts: 8
Is that why Jet2 rent?Is that why Jet2 , as well as all the trumpet blowing about their new Boeings also rent 14 year old aircraft like the A321 YL-LCV?

Now that post really makes you appear that you really don’t know what you are talking about. Jet2 lease in aeroplanes over the summer to add capacity, then in the winter those aeroplanes go back to their airline and aren’t on the books. I have no idea what relevance our brand new aeroplanes has to do with your post at all, perhaps you could explain yourself??

[sixchannel]

I was only askin' why!
Jet2 is a lovely airline and since March have flown on JZHS, JZHU, JZHW and JZBB out of BHX - all lovely and newish with great flght crew everytime. And this fits with their press etc about "16 new aircraft in 12 months" and so on.
then i see that LS1229/1230 has run recently using a Smartlynx renter which I assume uses no Jet2 employees (put me right please if thats wrong) and its 14 yrs old.
It was a question about why that happens not a poke at my favourite airline. So there. lol.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Then it’s the way you ask that requires some modification as it doesn’t come across in that manner.

[sixchannel]

Captain Johnny, as they say round here - "Soree, ay I"
New to all this - just trying to find out how things work.
if I knew how to edit my post I would.
My interest purely stemmed from looking at FR and noting that LCY isnt top of the pops when it comes to on time deps. Eg - today's flight to Rhodes. Extenuating circs probably prevailed.

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

sixchannel

Ok, thanks for the explanation.

My interest purely stemmed from looking at FR and noting that LCY isnt top of the pops when it comes to on time deps - none of those delays would have been down to it being 14 years old, which even for an Airbus, isn't old. They would be more likely down to slots due to French ATC strikes and then the thunderstorms round Europe this last few days.

To edit a post, click the symbol in the right corner of your post where it says EDIT.

[Flying Wild]

I was only askin' why!

then i see that LS1229/1230 has run recently using a Smartlynx renter which I assume uses no Jet2 employees (put me right please if thats wrong)


You're wrong. It has flight deck from Smartlynx, but the cabin crew are Jet2.

[Plane.Silly]

On top of this, most/if not all leases are damp leases (aircraft and pilots are owned by the lessor, cabin crew are Jet2's)
This applies to the Titans, Air Europa and Air Tanker leases, that i know of

[toledoashley]

TTG reporting no new bases - https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/jet2holidays-willing-to-innovate-and-take-risks-to-deliver-public-demand-14320

[LBIA]

Titan Airways Boeing 737-400, G-POWS operating out of LBA today for Jet2