Wonder what they’ll do with that? Presumably they’ll want significant return on that sort of investment.

You are confused. They were awarded the slots, they've not bought them.

The investment has been the 18 months they’ve paid to lease the until permanent award now which will need a return. Whether the IOM route last is where the only confusion lies..

What do you mean by leasing slots over 18 months? I don't think that's what they have done....

Loganair isn't new to Heathrow though...

'New' in that they now have the slots themselves rather than using the COVID waiver slots from other airlines. Same for Flybe, they didn't actually have the slots in the way LM have... hence how they can be the 'first' in 28 years. All very 'technical'.

Loganair have launched a route pass covering the following routes:

• Edinburgh - Southampton
• Glasgow - Southampton
• Aberdeen - Teesside
• Aberdeen - Manchester
• Aberdeen - Birmingham

I think Eastern offer something similar. Prices are geared towards business travellers!

Business Connect Plus (loganair.co.uk)

Talks ongoing re IOM-LHR, currently not bookable beyond March '23.....https://gef.im/2022/11/22/loganair-h...ks-continuing/

Do they own the LHR slots ?

I think they do.

They do from S23. They were awarded them recently.
https://airwaysmag.com/london-heathr...itish-airline/

I was just wondering about Loganair, regards their jet fleet.
They have the E135/145, but I wondered if they were the ones operating the Eastern E170, I only ask as I read somewhere, Loganair had some involvement .

Also, Would the Ejets , be a good fit for Loganair?.
It might enable them to offer , European destinations, even ' Holiday ' destinations , with the E190/E175 types.

Plus larger capacity from Glasgow , Edinburgh, Inverness etc , into LHR , rather than the Tiny ATR.
I'm not an expert on these matters, but do wonder if going forward, having the flexibility , to grow , but keeping to smaller sized Jet aircraft .
Especially, as the E135/E145, are getting rather old now .

Loganair have stated that the Atr is the future. They have no interest in operating trunk routes like Glasgow or Edinburgh to LHR.

As far as I am aware they had no involvement with the Eastern E170

The E135s are going/gone. The remaining Saabs will be replaced by recently ordered ATRs. No announcement has been made about the E145.

The E170 hasn’t operated for them and they have shown no interest in anything bigger than the ATR.

If you go back to when BA bought BCAL, Loganair was one of the airlines that applied to the CAA to replace BCAL on GLA/EDI to LGW. To bolster their case they acquired two 146s with which they proposed to operate the routes. However the route licences were awarded to Air UK instead and Loganair were stuck with the 146s which, IIRC, they mainly operated out of MAN. I think I can say with certainty that that was the end of Loganair’s interest in Scotland - London routes.

I wouldn’t say they have no interest in Scotland - London routes. They are currently operating Dundee to LCY and offering one stop to Kirkwall and Sumburgh. But I wouldn’t expect them to go up against BA on Glasgow or Edinburgh to London and especially not LHR. But Scot Airways held its own on LCY-EDI for years.

Fair point.

Didn't they quite categorically rule out EVER retrurning to the continent as routes inaugurated following Flybe's demise almost broke Loganair's back?

Loganair technically does still fly to “the Continent” as Denmark was attached to it last time I was there! Norway also is quite a sizeable operation now.

There were a few routes to Düsseldorf (GLA) and Brussels (NCL and EMA) launched post-bmi Regional that did not work and were dropped when Flybe went bust, with capacity moved to vacant domestic routes.

GLA-DUS was really tough going with ATC delays every day, a baggage loader taking a large chunk off an E145 wing one day and generally all too difficult. Don’t recall NCL-BRU being as troublesome but still obviously not as good as using the aircraft on Southampton and Exeter.

And I think there is no chance of E-Jets. Why would you want to go into direct competition with the big boys?

Loganair has launched a podcast. It can be found here: https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story...ast%20announce

interesting to know who said podcast is aimed at (on an effort/cost/return basis) :confused:

Hopefully better viewing than the recent tv series!

Alltough I am critical on the future, here some nice award for them: Loganair named Regional Airline of the Year | Scottish Financial News

I see Loganair are having a C check performed on an ERJ 145 by Willis at Teesside, where did they used to go before?

Lisbon or Bangor

Teesside a bit closer than those two.

Especially for the 2 ERJ 145's to be based in NCL

FlyBe Heathrow slots should go to Loganair, says Willie Walsh

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...ues-iata-chief

Be great if Loganair could start x2 flights a day between EDI & CWL….surely there is a market and need for day return flights??

Wishful thinking too but be great to have a GLA link too !!

From your username, I guess you would like more flights to and from Cardiff. However I suspect that EZY's services to EDI and GLA from BRS mean that the market is well served and thus it's not worth Loganair putting any more flights on. It's quick and easy to drive (or get public transport) to Bristol for most people in South Wales. I know someone planning to visit Swansea University who is flying into Bristol because the public transport links are so much more convenient than from Cardiff. So yes, I agree with you that it is wishful thinking.

I'm surprised no one has picked up the EMA-GLA and EMA-EDI routes, especially the latter. Have operated up to 4 or 5 times daily in the fairly recent past pre-covid.

The GLA/EDI-MAN/EMA routes seem to be dead alongside LBA. Trains are better, in person business meetings remain semi frowned upon for reasons of cost as online meetings are commonplace.

Trains could arguably be considered better by some if they actually operated. However, constant cancellations have afflicted the Manchester Airport to Scotland services for a considerable period of time now. Transpennine Express performance has been lamentable, and not just on strike days.

The other reason Scotland-MAN died was that there's almost no feed in MAN. Business Air were Lufthansa feeders, Loganair had their own mini-hub and BA fed European bound passengers from Scotland via based fleets at MAN/BHX. Lufthansa now serves both GLA/EDI on their own metal, BA were beaten in the regions and what was left of Loganair's original hub was killed off when BA closed their MAN base. Not sure Logan have the critical mass to make MAN work as a hub given the current environment sadly.

Of course flybe flew the routes when they bought BACON but God only knows if they were worth flying by then....

Try Vilnius. OGMA or Bangor have not been used in a long time.

Flights between Glasgow and Donegal have resumed after a hiatus of a few years. Sat and Sun on the ATR42 to begin with, over the summer from July to September.

Well done on the observation.

Thanks for sharing @chuboy I'd be tempted to visit this summer as I have never been. Used to be the LC903/904 on the SD360 when I was at school!

Loganair will suspend flights between Inverness and some island airports for at least six weeks, as a result of industrial action at the Highlands and Islands Airports Ltd (HIAL)

Loganair suspends island flights amid Hial industrial action - BBC News