72-500s are all freighters and 72-600s are all passenger aircraft with no plans to get either 72-500 pax or 72-600 freighters.

The original plan was 42-500s as Saab 340 replacements where the numbers wouldn't work for more expensive 42-600s on thinner regional routes where the routes (and island airports in some cases) could neither take nor need an ATR72.

Both 42-600s were short-notice additions to the fleet at different times to take up opportunities as they were offered, I believe. Both heading for Glasgow base imminently.

Just btw runway performance and MTOW for the 42-600 is exactly the same as the 42-500 - there's no difference in terms of capability. 18600kg MTOW for both. Some cosmetic differences in the cabin, and quite a big difference in the flightdeck requiring a delta course, training and split OPCs.

Loganair hoping for firm sale bid ‘in coming weeks’

Loganair hoping for firm sale bid ‘in coming weeks’ | The Shetland Times Ltd

Not sure what my thoughts are on that. Could be anything. Suppose most likely will be some sort of venture capital conglomeration. Would be funny if it was BA…

Don’t think BA would get involved again with a regional airline after the fiasco of BA Connect. More likely to be a privately funded purchase as you say via VC and private equity

BA would be fractionally better than the current custodians some may say...

I can't see IAG being interested.

I just hope the new takeover isn't leveraged and they manage to avoid capitalists like Greybull Capital.

If Loganair was still a BA franchise it would have first refusal.

I can’t see this being the sort of “transformational” deal IAG likes to pursue.

Everything BA touches outside of London they FUBAR, not intentionally, but they do. I have no idea how any venture capitalist would justify any ROI on Loganair's margins. It is what it is, but highly profitable it can't really be.

I think the BA comment was a joke :rolleyes:

Jethros are reporting the two Dorniers that are at DND are deregistered from the UK register and onwards with a possible D reg.

Loganair dropping City of Derry airport to Liverpool route.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...rport-27760073

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/pe...-doubt-4340706

Loganair sale put on hold for foreseeable future.
 

Not really a surprise, who would want to buy them? The clock is definitely ticking though. Stephen Bond is 73 now. I'm somewhat surprised that Hinkles hasn't engineered a management buyout as I can't really see any other reaslistic option unless it's Souter/Gloag or a patriotic outlier like Rod Stewart!

Miss working on those two. They kept NWI going.

Not exactly a sellers market out there is it? Suspect Hinkles is busy running an airline to be bothered at some fanciful prospect of wanting to own it.

Joking aside, would any acquisition or merger by/with BA (well, it'd be IAG ultimately) be permitted by the Competition & Markets Authority...?

Gloag is 80yrs old and doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to aviation-related things (e.g. Manston); I wonder if the Easdale brothers who own McGill’s Buses may have been a potential option...?

Loganair- ERA Airline of the year 2023
 

https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2023/10/1...stry-accolade/

LOGANAIR has been named Airline of the Year for 2023 by the European Regions Airline Association (ERA), an accolade they previously had won in 2018.

The award, which recognises achievement and success in European aviation, was announced at the ERA’s general assembly meeting in Innsbruck, Austria, last night (Wednesday).
Celebrating the award are (left to right): Claire Forrester (cabin crew), Annag Bagley (captain), Craig Young (first officer), chief executive Jonathan Hinkles, Rebecca Simpson (training captain) and Edwin Muzaale (line engineer). Photo; Loganair

Loganair, which employs more than 850 people across its network, was honoured in recognition of its “impressive performance” in returning to profitability following the pandemic, whilst at the same time improving terms for its staff.
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The award might prove somewhat controversial locally where Loganair has come in for a lot of criticism over the performance of its Sumburgh routes.

Airline chief executive Jonathan Hinkles said it was an “incredible honour” to be named airline of the year and thanked the company’s employees for their “extraordinary efforts in recent years”.

He added: “We were one of the very few airlines to continue flying daily throughout the pandemic, providing essential travel to remote communities, air ambulance services for Covid patients, and energy industry charter services that ensured the UK’s lights remained switched on.”

Judges also highlighted its progressive approach to the environment.

The airline’s GreenSkies programme, introduced in 2021 to manage and mitigate the environmental impact of flying through a combination of carbon offsetting, renewables investment and sustainable aviation research, was the first of its kind in the industry.
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ERA director general Montserrat Barriga said: “With an impressive overall performance during 2022, Loganair has overcome the challenges of the previous two years brought on by the pandemic.”

The ERA is a trade association representing the European aviation industry. Its membership includes more than 50 airlines and 150 associate and affiliate members.

Founded in 1962, Loganair is now the largest regional airline in the UK by passenger numbers and fleet size, operating across almost 100 routes throughout the UK, Ireland and Scandinavia.

Shetland News reporting 2 damaged ac for loganair
 

https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2023/10/2...imes-and-more/

Apparently 2 aircraft damaged whilst parked at Aberdeen by the high winds yesterday.

A few cancellations at NCL yesterday and more today

Loganair awarded PCO contract for Coll, Barra, Tiree and Campbeltown.

Lower air fares for residents of Barra and Tiree - BBC News

Does this include the Coll-Oban route or is it just Coll-Tiree ?

My assumption is that residents of Coll will have to get the ferry to Tiree to catch their flight. Hebridean Airways operate the routes out of Oban.

Loganair starts regional jet refit | Travel Weekly

Someone is going to have to help me here: "low carbon leather"?? :confused:

Not sure its hugely controversial….
https://www.scottishleathergroup.com...carbon-leather

Good to see, although arguably a drop in the ocean compared to the per person fuel consumption of a 49 seat regional jet...

​​​​Looks like a good refresh though, keeping the comfy looking seats.

It's quite simple. I'll spell it out for you G-R-E-E-N-W-A-S-H-I-N-G

It strikes me as though airlines are a bit of a soft target for environmentalists as they're damned if they're not seen to be reducing their carbon emissions/impact, and then shamed with claims of 'greenwashing' when they attempt to make an effort to do so; how is it possible to actually please these people...?!

As Adfly rightly points out above, it’s a bit comical making a thing about low carbon leather when they’re blasting about the skies in a fuel thirsty jet at low altitudes on short sectors in a low capacity aircraft.

What do you expect for an essentilal journey between islands. They could go by car and boat which would probably use more fuel and take several times the journey time

Don't think the EMB-145's do much of the Highlands and Islands stuff.

Never said they did, they do the trunk routes, even MAN doesn`t get that many now and as more ATRs arrive less and less

Last Saab 340 flight was today I believe. End of an era!

A little premature.,

G-LNTA currently aog
G-LNTC was due to be wfu 28 Oct. Remains in service until G-LGTA comes back online
G-LNTI / J remain in service pending additional AT72 acquisitions.

They do a bit. Fr24 tells you what and whem. Especially Stonoway.

What do you know? Oslo, Stavanger, Bergen, Southampton, Exeter. Check FR24 and see the heights the EJRs are flying. Top of the shop? Only time they will not is if the MEL says no. Or our not fit for purpose NATS..

Last 340 flight is a while away yet - yesterday was the last one in Glasgow but they'll keep going at Aberdeen until the next ATR deliveries eventually turn up to take over. January is the latest but that's already moved several times so anybody's guess. 3 x 340s left in service as of this week.

The 145 operates to SYY and BEB but can't operate north (KOI + LSI) as the runways aren't adequate. Most of the 145 sectors are longer stage lengths where they're a lot faster than the ATRs which tend to fly the shorter stuff. New 145 cabin looks good although haven't seen it in person yet - it's only on one so far, with the rest following over the next 12 months.

I couldn’t see a huge difference in cabin pics, same tweed headrests, yellowy lighting etc, so yes would be good to see on my next trip to SYY. Just a shame the overheads are beyond useless!

The overhead lockers are what they are. Cannot redesign something that was designed 25 years ago for a limited sized cabin. Airports do not help by not using the size slot boxes to check that luggage will fit in an EJR overhead and bring through items that are Valet size. I feel sorry for the cabin crew and engineers that have to sort out a jammed overhead because someone has shoved in a bag that is obviously too big to fit in,