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Cat Techie 27th Oct 2021 20:23

How many airlines have a good balance sheet at the moment? Loganair were flying aircraft when most other pax operators were virtually stopped operating. Remember that trains and busus were bankrolled by Government. Airlines were not.

Cat Techie 27th Oct 2021 20:31

Because all of Loganair's aircraft are not certified to have any other radio devices operating on them bar the certified equipment on board. Blue Tooth is transmitted radio waves is it not? True the chances of intervference are tiny, but are still there.

Skipness One Foxtrot 28th Oct 2021 17:00

G-FBXA routing MAN-EXT tonight, end of lease return?

SealinkBF 28th Oct 2021 17:06

EDI LDY announced by Loganair.

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...gh-derry-route

jethro15 28th Oct 2021 17:48


G-FBXA routing MAN-EXT tonight, end of lease return?
That's Correct

BA318 24th Nov 2021 12:44

Aurigny, Loganair and Blue Islands announce a partnership. Quite wide ranging from codeshares through to joint purchasing.

https://www.blueislands.com/news/pos...-connectivity/

wanna 24th Nov 2021 13:04

Excellent news, three operators who all have a niche market, fairly strong branding / good reputation within their local markets, (especially so for Aurigny and LM and extremely long history too) who will no doubt be able to contribute massively to the regional market. A shame not much of a NI / Irish representation though. Will no doubt impact the viablity of the comeback of Flybe also.

SealinkBF 4th Dec 2021 10:14

Has anyone watched the new Loganair advert?

Two very creepy looking teddy bears- especially the last shot!


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8c656a8bb9.jpg

Breathe 4th Dec 2021 14:44

They look like a couple of bouncers I saw outside a club I walked past last weekend. :)

garry8g 27th Jan 2022 15:50

Loganair's latest ATR 72-600, G-LMTC was delivered into Aberdeen Tuesday night(25th). This is the replacement for G-FBXB.

A further two ATR 72-600's (G-LMTD & G-LMTE) are due February & March 22.

BAladdy 1st Feb 2022 15:16

Expanded Codeshare Agreement with BA
 
Loganair and British Airways have today announced a expansion of there codeshare agreement.

https://www.loganair.co.uk/our-story...are-agreement/

The new agreement will see the number of routes increase from 20 to 38. The new routes added to the agreement are:

Aberdeen to Belfast City, Birmingham, Bristol, Manchester, Norwich and Southampton
Derry to London Stansted and Liverpool
Edinburgh to Exeter, Isle of Man and Norwich
Glasgow to Exeter
Inverness to Birmingham
Isle of Man to Birmingham and Manchester
Newcastle to Exeter
Newquay to Manchester
Teeside to Southampton

Does anyone know what the 20 routes that BA already codeshare with LM?

CabinCrewe 1st Feb 2022 16:01

aren't all the islands included eg Stornoway, Lerwick etc ?

BAladdy 1st Feb 2022 16:40


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11178333)
aren't all the islands included eg Stornoway, Lerwick etc ?

Yes it does. The routes listed are just the new ones added today.

BAladdy 1st Feb 2022 16:54


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11178333)
aren't all the islands included eg Stornoway, Lerwick etc ?

Here is a list of all the routes i believe are covered as part the agreement:

Aberdeen to/from: Belfast City, Birmingham, Bristol, Kirkwall, Manchester, Norwich, Southampton and Sumburgh

Derry to/from: Liverpool and London Stansted

Edinburgh to/from: Exeter, Isle of Man, Kirkwall, Norwich, Southampton, Stornaway and Sumburgh

Glasgow to/from: Benbecula, Exeter, Islay, Kirkwall, Norwich, Southampton, Stornaway and Sumburgh

Isle of Man to/from: Birmingham and Manchester

Inverness to/from: Benbecula, Birmingham, Kirkwall, Manchester, Stornaway and Sumburgh

Newcastle to/from: Exeter and Southampton

Newquay to/from: Manchester

Teeside to/from: London Heathrow and Southampton

SealinkBF 7th Feb 2022 23:21

Happy 60th!

https://www.loganair.co.uk/campaign/...RoCkWAQAvD_BwE

garry8g 19th Mar 2022 01:35

Loganair's latest ATR 72-600, G-LMTD was delivered into Aberdeen yesterday(18th).

I also see that 4 further ATR72-500F are on order, with 2 due in April, and a further 2 due in August. (Courtesy of Jethros)

SealinkBF 18th Jul 2022 15:32

Loganair introduces "islander" discounts for ADS members.

Loganair launches new islander discount - The Orcadian Online

Additional ADS discount in place from Sumburgh | The Shetland Times Ltd

Also available from Stornoway but can't see a link to an article.

CabinCrewe 18th Jul 2022 18:49


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 11263748)
Loganair introduces "islander" discounts for ADS members.

Loganair launches new islander discount - The Orcadian Online

Additional ADS discount in place from Sumburgh | The Shetland Times Ltd

Also available from Stornoway but can't see a link to an article.

Think I thought they were already heavily discounted.

SealinkBF 18th Jul 2022 20:10


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11263851)
Think I thought they were already heavily discounted.

These are further discounts

VickersVicount 31st Jul 2022 15:47

I couldn’t recall if the ultimate fleet plan was to replace everything with ATRs… was that the case? The Emb145 I was on this week was ‘knackered’ with bits of seats duct taped, badly worn leather, blue ex BMI external paint showing, ‘painted’ fold down tables and a whistling door seal. Very swift trip though and sprightly performance which as a jet I doubt could be matched by ATR. Hopefully ATR has bigger overhead bins for what was apparently allowed on…

Fly757X 31st Jul 2022 19:41


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11270832)
I couldn’t recall if the ultimate fleet plan was to replace everything with ATRs… was that the case? The Emb145 I was on this week was ‘knackered’ with bits of seats duct taped, badly worn leather, blue ex BMI external paint showing, ‘painted’ fold down tables and a whistling door seal. Very swift trip though and sprightly performance which as a jet I doubt could be matched by ATR. Hopefully ATR has bigger overhead bins for what was apparently allowed on…

The initial press releases in 2018 suggested that eventually this would be the case.

Recent video interviews I had seen from 2021 mentioned that they see a purpose for both alongside eachother due to sector lengths etc. The 135s were in the process of being sold recently but G-SAJH was recently also in the paint shop to receive a Tartan tail, Red engines etc so the frames to remain are seeing some investment.

A bit of work inside wouldn’t go as miss as you’ve said however. I remember G-SAJG being particularly poor back in its old BMI days.

mullac30 31st Jul 2022 21:19

I wonder if they might consider the 70-seat version of the new Embraer turboprop once it has been launched (next year), it looks like it could strike a good balance between economics and performance. Seems like they could be a good choice as a long term replacement for the ERJs once they reach the 30 year old mark.

VickersVicount 31st Jul 2022 21:49


Originally Posted by mullac30 (Post 11270966)
I wonder if they might consider the 70-seat version of the new Embraer turboprop once it has been launched (next year), it looks like it could strike a good balance between economics and performance. Seems like they could be a good choice as a long term replacement for the ERJs once they reach the 30 year old mark.

Quite a jump in capacity from ERJs for something brand new which would be a huge investment that I doubt they could afford. Can’t immediately think of a similar size little jet now or pending (if indeed a jet is needed for longer routes)

Saabdriver1 1st Aug 2022 12:00

Last E135 leaving the operation this month. E145s will be around for the foreseeable and project starting/started around interior refurb and basic weight reductions for the 145 aircraft - understand it's a bit more complicated than it sounds due to having to refurb seats instead of being able to get new ones as for the Saab 340s a few years ago.

CabinCrewe 15th Aug 2022 20:16

Slightly ‘woke’ fly on the wall BBC3 style Loganair fly on the wall show on iPlayer ‘Sky High Club’ something different and some nice aerial shots but not sure I’ll tune in for more.

Jerbourg 16th Aug 2022 19:29


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11279022)
Slightly ‘woke’ fly on the wall BBC3 style Loganair fly on the wall show on iPlayer ‘Sky High Club’ something different and some nice aerial shots but not sure I’ll tune in for more.

I thought the programme was dire, I expected to learn something about the airline & it's ops - I was sadly wrong.
I won't be tuning in again.

wub 17th Aug 2022 15:36


Originally Posted by Jerbourg (Post 11279646)
I thought the programme was dire, I expected to learn something about the airline & it's ops - I was sadly wrong.
I won't be tuning in again.

I turned off half way through. It painted them in a thoroughly unprofessional light. The captain pulling pranks and the cabin crew cavorting about at the seaside and bickering in their flat. What was that to do with running an airline?

ATNotts 17th Aug 2022 15:53


Originally Posted by wub (Post 11280162)
I turned off half way through. It painted them in a thoroughly unprofessional light. The captain pulling pranks and the cabin crew cavorting about at the seaside and bickering in their flat. What was that to do with running an airline?

Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!

wub 17th Aug 2022 15:57


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11280171)
Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!

I didn't realise it was on BBC Three. I watched it on BBC Scotland. It explains a lot but still does them no favours.

ATNotts 17th Aug 2022 16:04


Originally Posted by wub (Post 11280174)
I didn't realise it was on BBC Three. I watched it on BBC Scotland. It explains a lot but still does them no favours.

If I recall correctly it was said that is is being aired on BBC Scotland but will be networked on BBC3. I could have misheard.

SWBKCB 17th Aug 2022 16:12


Sky High Club is produced by Mentorn Scotland. The commission came from a creative partnership of BBC Three, BBC Scotland and Screen Scotland. The scheme invited local Scottish Independent production companies to pitch innovative, factual entertainment format ideas that reflect the life experiences young people, with the promise of a guaranteed series commission.
It's on BBC3 at 20.00 tomorrow - I think the programme title gives you a fair idea of the direction its going to take

Wycombe 17th Aug 2022 16:50


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11280171)
Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!

Yes, it's clearly aimed at a BBC3 (ie, young) audience and hence feels a bit like a reality show.

I thought the 2 female CC who share a flat came across fine, said they are professional and take their job seriously when at work - and that they get frustrated at pax who don't realise they are there mainly for their safety, which seems fine to me.

Also thought that the FO with HIV came across very well - seemed professional, devoted and passionate about what he does and furthering himself - fine by me also.

Yes, the young Capt has the "gift of the gab" (by his own admission) but seemed to respect his partner (who works on the ground for the airline at LSI) and obviously is no mug if he got a captaincy at 23.


Atlantic Explorer 17th Aug 2022 19:32

It’s dire, it really is. I’m not sure if I can say anything else about it than that.

dcp2608 17th Aug 2022 19:45

I was very disappointed in the first episode and turned off after 10-15mins as was not what I expected

Richard Taylor 18th Aug 2022 06:20

I've seen about half of one of the episodes - which was more than enough. Bless them, but it did put me in mind of this from the 90s:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...KSHVVlM2bA5rN0

:O


SealinkBF 9th Sep 2022 16:13

Loganair have announced a reduction in some fuel surcharges, and an increase in others.

Loganair revises fuel surcharge (travelmole.com)



lfc84 9th Sep 2022 16:48


Vouchers and free changes due to the death

JobsaGoodun 9th Oct 2022 05:23

I see The Times are reporting today that the Bond brothers are actively looking for a buyer for Loganair. Could we be about to see some consolidation in the UK regional market? (Link not added as behind paywall)

BA318 9th Oct 2022 06:22


Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun (Post 11310362)
I see The Times are reporting today that the Bond brothers are actively looking for a buyer for Loganair. Could we be about to see some consolidation in the UK regional market? (Link not added as behind paywall)

its an interesting article. Apparently Loganair is debt free and profitable. Expected to sell for low tens of millions but not more because of the precarious nature of regional aviation.


cavokblues 9th Oct 2022 06:44

Link to article avoiding the paywall here:

https://archive.ph/qD1Li

Very, very crudely dividing their revenue by pax numbers gives them an average revenue per pax of £115. Not a bad effort on predominantly UK regional routes.


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