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SilverCityKid 21st Oct 2019 16:09

Post 1739 - Brian Droney
 
What a pleasure to read a sensible reasoned and sympathetic post highlighting the advantages of Jet 2 purchasing 4 x A321 ex Thomas Cook. A total contrast from all the negative winging and moaning on PPrune and in Westmister.

It shows that there are still companies around who look further than the next quarter's financial results and also have a sense of social responsibility.

As Brian says, it seems to me like a "Win-Win Situation" for all concerned, well done Jet 2 !

LBAflyer22 21st Oct 2019 20:20


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 10599778)
brining that experience to Jet2 could be a win for both parties.


Originally Posted by SilverCityKid (Post 10599920)
What a pleasure to read a sensible reasoned and sympathetic post [/SPOILER]highlighting the advantages of Jet 2 purchasing 4 x A321 ex Thomas Cook. A total contrast from all the negative winging and moaning on PPrune and in Westmister.

It shows that there are still companies around who look further than the next quarter's financial results and also have a sense of social responsibility.

As Brian says, it seems to me like a "Win-Win Situation" for all concerned, well done Jet 2 !

I second that SilverCityKid.

Also to add my two cents to this argument - Air Tanker used TC engineers for the A330's. Get some Airbus rated pilots into the Jet2 fold and Jet2 will be able to provide the service to Air Tanker at no doubt discounted rates or within he contract. And with them expanding the A330 to 3 - i have even heard a rumour of 4 (1x A330 388 seater) this will be useful indeed.

Antonio Montana 22nd Oct 2019 04:54

But all of this assumes that they really have purchased Airbus.

Of which there has been no credible evidence, other than posts from people on here, No Official Announcement although there was speculation that there would have been over a week ago. The only real evidence is the seat maps for some of next years flights.

Sadly this all seems like another series of wet leases from Smart Lynx and Titan to me, Hope I am wrong, I too have been through the pain of redundancy in this industry 3 times, but i doubt it.

Bournemouthair 22nd Oct 2019 06:24


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 10598371)
I would agree that there are hardly massive holes to fill with the demise of TCX. If anything, they may want to consolidate and lift yields at those locations. Unless slots are so scarce to warrant a land grab but I doubt it.

As for BOH, Jet2 have no presence at LGW so this could potentially pull demand away from the likes of easyJet and Norwegian. Could be quite strategic to do this especially if they did a split operation between BOH and SOU? 2 aircraft each.

from facebook

We're going where the sun shines brightly, we're going where the sea is blue...a new destination route from Bournemouth Airport is unveiled here tomorrow. Find out where, and with what carrier, from 10am Tuesday, 22nd October.🏖


rog747 22nd Oct 2019 06:58


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 10598371)
I would agree that there are hardly massive holes to fill with the demise of TCX. If anything, they may want to consolidate and lift yields at those locations. Unless slots are so scarce to warrant a land grab but I doubt it.

As for BOH, Jet2 have no presence at LGW so this could potentially pull demand away from the likes of easyJet and Norwegian. Could be quite strategic to do this especially if they did a split operation between BOH and SOU? 2 aircraft each.


Admiral optimism but SOU is a complete no for 738 or A321 ops, and as for BOH, yes Jet2 had its spiritual home there, but both TUI and FR only base one 738 there year round, so 2 at BOH for Jet2 - not sure about that...Rumour was for TUI to have a 2nd 738 but even they are cautious at BOH and have reduced SOU ops for S20 by canning IBZ and 1 x PMI a week, with MAH remaining on a small 78 seat BE Q400.

BRS has seen around 3 or 4 TCK a/c lost but EZY TUI and FR all have very strong presence there
CWL was summer only TCK afaik?
EXT nothing for years (only TUI now for package holidays, plus FR muscling in)

stonejo 22nd Oct 2019 14:46


Originally Posted by Bournemouthair (Post 10600371)
from facebook

We're going where the sun shines brightly, we're going where the sea is blue...a new destination route from Bournemouth Airport is unveiled here tomorrow. Find out where, and with what carrier, from 10am Tuesday, 22nd October.🏖

TUI announcesd flight to Skiathos from Bournemouth for 2020 today.

Flying Wild 22nd Oct 2019 16:30

Announced this afternoon that 7 A321 aircraft are being brought onto the Jet2 AOC for summer 2020. 4 at MAN, 3 at BHX.

LBIA 22nd Oct 2019 16:46

Jet2 just put on sale winter 2020 New York flights using Airbus A330's from BHX, NCL, MAN & EMA & Boeing 757-200 from LBA

https://www.jet2.com/News/Enjoy_more..._in_Winter_20/
  • Birmingham: 3x flights = 19th November / 6th & 13th December
  • Newcastle: 4x flights = 22nd & 26th / November, 3rd & 17th December
  • Manchester: 7x Flights = 27th & 30th November / 4th, 7th,11th, 14th & 18th December
  • Leeds Bradford: 3x flights = 3rd, 10th & 17th December
  • East Midlands: 1x flight = 10th December

GCELY 22nd Oct 2019 17:02

A321s for next summer
 
Ground crew for Jet2 have just received an internal communication which mentions 7x A321s for next year based at BHX and MAN. Im sure there will be a statement soon from the company

stonejo 22nd Oct 2019 18:01

Looks like Jet2 are looking for more Airbus according to the Word on the Ground issued today.

nowhereasfiled 22nd Oct 2019 19:29


Originally Posted by GCELY (Post 10600807)
Ground crew for Jet2 have just received an internal communication which mentions 7x A321s for next year based at BHX and MAN. Im sure there will be a statement soon from the company

Theres already been an internal comm to all depts about the introduction of Airbus it came out today.


To support growth and to give us additional capacity for Summer 2020, we are planning to introduce seven
Airbus A321s under our own Jet2.com Air Operator Certificate (AOC), in time it is likely more may follow. Four of these aircraft will be based in Manchester (MAN) and three will be based in Birmingham (BHX).
This is clearly a very exciting time and a return to Airbus operations for the Company having operated Airbus A300 freighters in the 1990s.
The Airbus A321s will be in the 220 seat configuration and along with our well established Boeing fleet, will help to continue to provide our customers with a fantastic experience going to and coming back from their well deserved holidays.
Once in service, planned for April 2020, they will be flying to all our current destinations and there will be additional aircraft in the Bases highlighted supporting, the current fleet

GCELY 22nd Oct 2019 19:31


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10600917)


Theres already been an internal comm to all depts about the introduction of Airbus it came out today.


Exactly the same as we got in the Word on the Ground update then.

azz767 22nd Oct 2019 20:43

Any word on whether they will be owned or leased?

GCELY 22nd Oct 2019 20:45


Originally Posted by azz767 (Post 10600963)
Any word on whether they will be owned or leased?

Owned

To support growth and to give us additional capacity for Summer 2020, we are planning to introduce seven Airbus A321s under our own Jet2.com Air Operator Certificate (AOC), in time it is likely more may follow.

Garstag 22nd Oct 2019 23:56

There currently 6 A321’s ex TCX at Lasham

ETOPS 23rd Oct 2019 04:27

Hope some of the ex TCX employees can join Jet2 with this news.

rog747 23rd Oct 2019 06:59

HM Govt has lifted the air travel ban into and out of SSH for UK flights -
SSH was a huge market in its hey day especially in the winter, but the Egypt downturn was pivotal in Monarch's demise.

Jet2 have wisely stayed well clear of Egypt and Tunisia up to now - I wonder what they are thinking?

The AvgasDinosaur 23rd Oct 2019 07:49


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10601218)
HM Govt has lifted the air travel ban into and out of SSH for UK flights -
SSH was a huge market in its hey day especially in the winter, but the Egypt downturn was pivotal in Monarch's demise.

Jet2 have wisely stayed well clear of Egypt and Tunisia up to now - I wonder what they are thinking?

As the cousins would say Stay the hell out of Dodge City !!
Be lucky
David

Flying Wild 23rd Oct 2019 08:56


Originally Posted by GCELY (Post 10600966)

Owned

To support growth and to give us additional capacity for Summer 2020, we are planning to introduce seven Airbus A321s under our own Jet2.com Air Operator Certificate (AOC), in time it is likely more may follow.

Your statement is not backed up by the quote. The airline can lease aircraft and have them on the Jet2 AOC.

azz767 23rd Oct 2019 13:16


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 10601299)
Your statement is not backed up by the quote. The airline can lease aircraft and have them on the Jet2 AOC.

That was the point I was trying to raise. When the initial rumour was 4 A321's I assumed it would have been the 4 that TCX owned outright, but now the figure is 7 I'm thinking they may be leased.

It will be interesting to see if they're cheaper older frames (less sharklets) or whether they are newer more expensive frames (with sharklets). With Jet 2's history of 2nd hand frames you would say the former, however if they are intended as genuine 757 replacements the sharkleted ones would make more sense.


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