Originally Posted by dc9-32
(Post 10850050)
The question really has to be - why go on holiday in the first place. I mean, it will hardly be enjoyable will it.
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Originally Posted by wowzz
(Post 10850266)
If you booked the holiday 12 months ago, you dont really have a choice, unless you are prepared to lose the entire cost of the holiday.
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Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10850313)
Government advice is not currently to end holidays prematurely, this is very much a commercial decision.
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It's a fine distinction. If "the FCO advise against all non-essential travel to Spain" obviously those already in the country are not going to travel there because they are already there!!
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Government advice is currently "From 27 July, the FCO advise against all non-essential travel to Spain, including the Balearic and Canary Islands, based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks in the country." Quite how you determine this does not apply to those already in country on vacation I am not sure? From 27 July, the FCO advise against all non-essential travel to Spain, including the Balearic and Canary Islands, based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks in the country. This advice is based on evidence of increases in cases of COVID-19 in several regions, but particularly in Aragon, Navarra and Catalonia (which include the cities of Zaragoza, Pamplona and Barcelona). The FCO is not advising those already travelling in Spain to leave at this time. Travellers should follow the advice of the local authorities on how best to protect themselves and others, including any measures that they bring in to control the virus. |
The UK Govt appears to have decided that it doesn't want any more Brits to go on holiday to Spain. Boris / Rishi have seen how much bringing Thomas Cook's customers home cost in Sept 2019. Boris also knows how much hassle was involved bringing everyone home in March 2020 at the start of the lockdown. HM Govt appears to have decided it is not willing to pay to evacuate everyone back to the UK and would rather pax and airlines just sort it out themselves instead
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Originally Posted by Johnny F@rt Pants
(Post 10850211)
Embrace the new normal.
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Originally Posted by Big Tudor
(Post 10850347)
Government advice is currently "From 27 July, the FCO advise against all non-essential travel to Spain, including the Balearic and Canary Islands, based on the current assessment of COVID-19 risks in the country." Quite how you determine this does not apply to those already in country on vacation I am not sure?
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Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10850397)
See reply from another poster above
I note TUI have now applied the same dates as Jet2 for Balearics, Canaries & Mainland Spain.. |
Originally Posted by Big Tudor
(Post 10850443)
And my response to Government would be "how you determine this does not apply to those already in country on vacation." It seems positively bizarre to exclude someone from travelling to Spain whilst those who are already there can remain and return as planned? None of this makes sense, and the lack of information on why the decision was taken leads one to believe it was for reasons other than pure spikes in virus cases.
I note TUI have now applied the same dates as Jet2 for Balearics, Canaries & Mainland Spain.. |
What would be the benefit of making people come back early? You still have to do 14 day quarantine whenever you come back.
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Originally Posted by Big Tudor
(Post 10850443)
And my response to Government would be "how you determine this does not apply to those already in country on vacation." It seems positively bizarre to exclude someone from travelling to Spain whilst those who are already there can remain and return as planned? None of this makes sense, and the lack of information on why the decision was taken leads one to believe it was for reasons other than pure spikes in virus cases.
I note TUI have now applied the same dates as Jet2 for Balearics, Canaries & Mainland Spain.. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10850457)
What would be the benefit of making people come back early? You still have to do 14 day quarantine whenever you come back.
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Originally Posted by UnderASouthernSky
(Post 10850528)
Er, less time spent in a higher risk area means a lower chance of contracting the virus. Not everyone who gets Covid while abroad will simply be okay after 14 days back at home, even if spread to citizens back in the UK is limited by the quarantine.
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The UK Govt appears to have decided that it doesn't want any more Brits to go on holiday to Spain. Boris / Rishi have seen how much bringing Thomas Cook's customers home cost in Sept 2019. Boris also knows how much hassle was involved bringing everyone home in March 2020 at the start of the lockdown. HM Govt appears to have decided it is not willing to pay to evacuate everyone back to the UK and would rather pax and airlines just sort it out themselves instead What exactly are the government meant to do, send the troops in? |
Originally Posted by Big Tudor
(Post 10850443)
And my response to Government would be "how you determine this does not apply to those already in country on vacation." It seems positively bizarre to exclude someone from travelling to Spain whilst those who are already there can remain and return as planned?
What might be sensible is for airlines to arrange to recognise each others tickets. |
Originally Posted by occasional
(Post 10851157)
What might be sensible is for airlines to arrange to recognise each others tickets.
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To my mind recognising each others tickets during the Covid crisis is a proposal that ought to come from government. It was a system that used to work well on cross-channel ferries.
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Originally Posted by occasional
(Post 10851488)
To my mind recognising each others tickets during the Covid crisis is a proposal that ought to come from government. It was a system that used to work well on cross-channel ferries.
Imagine how long Jet2 would have to wait for reimbursement from Ryanair if they gave carriage to a Ryanair passenger? Can you visualise Ryanair paying £100 to TUI to get a Ryanair passenger back from Tenerife (someone who possibly only paid Ryanair £29.99 for his ticket)? An airline is not a charity - it is a business (needless to say). |
Putting 10 pax on a TUI flight might be cheaper than sending your own a/c to collect them.
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