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PDXCWL45 19th Oct 2019 12:48


Originally Posted by FRatSTN (Post 10598347)
I certainly wouldn't rule it out. Remember 4 aircraft for Jet2 is not nearly the same as 4 Ryanair based with additional non-based flying.

TUI are already heading towards 2 and 3 aircraft at BOH and CWL respectively and it's not unlike Jet2 to dwarf their presense elsewhere.

Did anybody really expect BHX and STN to each be 14-15 based only 3 years ago?

CWL is a 3 aircraft base during the summer already and next summer will be as well.

Sharklet_321 19th Oct 2019 13:02

I would agree that there are hardly massive holes to fill with the demise of TCX. If anything, they may want to consolidate and lift yields at those locations. Unless slots are so scarce to warrant a land grab but I doubt it.

As for BOH, Jet2 have no presence at LGW so this could potentially pull demand away from the likes of easyJet and Norwegian. Could be quite strategic to do this especially if they did a split operation between BOH and SOU? 2 aircraft each.

SJL26779 19th Oct 2019 13:17

Jet2 / TCX A321
 
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e523226a8.jpg
Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout



pamann 19th Oct 2019 13:42


Originally Posted by SJL26779 (Post 10598380)
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e523226a8.jpg
Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout

Whatís to say this isnít the usual Titan A321 operating in the summer months?

SJL26779 19th Oct 2019 14:34

as far as I am aware the Titan aircraft have a different layout. G-POWU has 38 rows with 3 seats abreast in row 38, G-POWN has 37 rows. Thomas Cook aircraft only had 2 seats in row 38 I am sure. I may be wrong but Jet2 have just upgraded these aircraft a few days ago from 738 to A321

Seems a bit of a coincidence


USERNAME_ 19th Oct 2019 14:53


Originally Posted by SJL26779 (Post 10598380)
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e523226a8.jpg
Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout

Worked on many Airbus' in my time, those seats are pretty standard across most airlines.
As are the 2 seats at the back.

Garstag 19th Oct 2019 15:11


Originally Posted by USERNAME_ (Post 10598437)
Worked on many Airbus' in my time, those seats are pretty standard across most airlines.
As are the 2 seats at the back.

jet2 have wet leased an A321 all summer at Birmingham, probably just extending it to 2020

irishlad06 19th Oct 2019 15:44


Originally Posted by Garstag (Post 10598448)


jet2 have wet leased an A321 all summer at Birmingham, probably just extending it to 2020

whereas the seat maps for specific MAN flights are on the A321 - these are ex TCX A321ís. confirmed.

nowhereasfiled 19th Oct 2019 15:59


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10598474)
confirmed.

where?????

Garstag 19th Oct 2019 16:13

The maps shown by SJL26779 clearly state BIRMINGHAM TO KOS

LBAflyer22 19th Oct 2019 16:45


Originally Posted by SJL26779 (Post 10598380)
Jet2 seat maps are showing the exact same seat maps as the MT flights used to. Definitely looks like LS have bought those TCX A321 Airframes

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e523226a8.jpg
Same 2 seat extra legroom seats as TCX used to offer. Same layout and seats configuration throughout

Looking at Titan A321 220 config and they have the same config. Maybe they are leasing A321 into BHX alongside STN from Titan Airways. I did look into SmartLynx but they have that row forward. Roaw 24 is 4 seats.

stonejo 19th Oct 2019 16:56


Originally Posted by FRatSTN (Post 10598336)
Jet2 venturing into the South-West is surely the next obvious strategic move for them?

They've developed strong market share already elsewhere in the UK. I can't see the likes of BFS, GLA, EDI, NCL, LBA, EMA growing much more beyond current levels as a short/mid-term plan and would hardly say there's big holes to fill just because Thomas Cook may have had one or two aircraft in each. The big strategic growth will come through MAN, BHX and STN with the potential for new bases.

I personally would expect to see at least one of BRS, BOH or CWL with at least 4 aircraft in the first year or two before any of the existing smaller bases get towards 9, 10, 11 aircraft.

GLA supposed to be getting at least one extra based aircraft next year, possibly 2.

irishlad06 19th Oct 2019 17:35


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10598480)


where?????

apparently announced internally - they have bought 4 x A321ís to begin flying in March /April all to be based at MAN. Adverts for engineers should go up soon. Flight deck recruitment already started.

Council Van 19th Oct 2019 20:03

[QUOTE=Sharklet_321;10598371]
I would agree that there are hardly massive holes to fill with the demise of TCX. If anything, they may want to consolidate and lift yields at those locations. Unless slots are so scarce to warrant a land grab but I doubt it.
QUOTE]
A bed grab. In some locations there were previously not enough beds to meet demand, particularly the Balearics and Canaries.

rog747 20th Oct 2019 06:19

A321 charter config seat maps - various capacities 210-220 seats

Don't get your knickers in a twist about this - There are a various configs that have either 3-3 all the way down through the cabin (Fly Niki had this) plus there are versions that have just 4 seats at door 3, but 6 across at door 2 and so on, and so on.

Antonio Montana 20th Oct 2019 07:53


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10598529)


apparently announced internally - they have bought 4 x A321ís to begin flying in March /April all to be based at MAN. Adverts for engineers should go up soon. Flight deck recruitment already started.

If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......

irishlad06 20th Oct 2019 07:59


Originally Posted by Antonio Montana (Post 10598890)
If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......

many ex TCX flight deck have already had telephone interviews including TREís.

CabinCrewe 20th Oct 2019 08:20

Weren't they aiming for a single fleet type ultimately of just 738?
Now we have a 738, 757, A321, A330...
Complexities of subfleet crewing, ageing types, maintenance etc. Didn't Airtours struggle with that?

zoigberg 20th Oct 2019 08:30


Originally Posted by Antonio Montana (Post 10598890)
If they are advertising for Flight Crew, they are doing it very very very quietly.......

Nothing has been announced internally. There are lots of jungle drums on the same lines as we have in this discussion.

Antonio Montana 20th Oct 2019 08:46


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10598893)


many ex TCX flight deck have already had telephone interviews including TREís.

Which is great news for those affected by the demise of TCX, but this alone means nothing, people can always change types.

Until there is an official announcement, it remains a rumour.

Jet2 have got where they are by being very careful, this seems a bit too risky to me. I cannot imagine Philip Meeson doing this.


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