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I doubt the runway is long enough to be able to fill the jet and make it to India, whereas Stansted is blessed with a nice long runway where such issues won’t be a factor.

Nostoodian

27th Sep 2019 11:46

Some big news just in. This could be a big game changer at Manchester.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mas-cook-slots

Plane.Silly

27th Sep 2019 12:24

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Originally Posted by Nostoodian (Post 10580768)

Some big news just in. This could be a big game changer at Manchester.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mas-cook-slots

Would be nice to see a bit more long haul at MAN, but i wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Ryanair, Easylet and Jet2 were sniffing round them as well, all 3 probably looking to expand as well

MANFOD

27th Sep 2019 13:20

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Originally Posted by Nostoodian (Post 10580768)

Some big news just in. This could be a big game changer at Manchester.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...mas-cook-slots

This is indeed big news and has been followed up by Virgin stating that extra capacity will be provided from MAN this winter to JFK (B747 instead of A332), BGI (3 weekly flights rather than 2) and MCO (details to follow). There is also a reference to an announcement shortly about new flights and routes in 2020 and confirmation of the Virgin Clubhouse.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ester-airport/

spacedog

27th Sep 2019 15:50

Great news if it all comes off. I am not sure Virgin have the airframes avaiable for such a quick expansion. Maybe with the help of DL they might be able to utilise 6 pair of slots each day. I do hope so it is a big void to fill. Apparently there are up to 24 slot pairs up for grabs. As far MAG it means they will be standing still re pax numbers at best, most likely a reduction. I hope that all the available slots are snapped and utilised properly.. again I go back to the airlines not so sure how many have the airframes available to take advantage of this situation. Another option is to move airframes from another airport, however that would. Depend on which airport would. Give the bigger yield.

TURIN

27th Sep 2019 16:50

I am confused. Since when has MAN been slot restricted? Surely, if Virgin want to start new services they just apply for the slots. I can't believe MAN is anywhere near capacity.
Or it could just be that I have no clue. Which is more likely if I'm honest.

back to Boeing

27th Sep 2019 16:50

Quick question. I know that obviously with TCX going quite a few “slots” have become available. But is MAN slot constrained like say LHR or LGW. Were all available slots actually in use?

Honest curiosity.

Scottie Dog

27th Sep 2019 17:31

Whilst Manchester is not totally slot restricted it is, at peak times, hard to get the times that the airline initially wants. In S19 93% of first time requests were met, however that does mean that 7% of applications had to be offered alternative times - varying between 5 minutes and an hour from the original request.
Remember that if Manchester can not offer a slot then the airline may also have to try to get an alternative slot at the overseas airport.

eye2eye5

27th Sep 2019 18:58

Is stand space not the issue rather than slots?

eggc	27th Sep 2019 19:38

Only overnight, but VS a/c would be out until first wave departs. Even overnight should ease now when the TCX fleet leave.

Scottie Dog

27th Sep 2019 21:10

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Originally Posted by eye2eye5 (Post 10581026)

Is stand space not the issue rather than slots?

Stand availability and terminal capacity, as well as runway capacity, needs to be taken into account.

Scottie Dog

28th Sep 2019 09:19

Just to add to my comment above you have to also remember that the collapse of Thomas Cook has freed up terminal capacity in T1 but Virgin use T2 which is still quite heavily used.

Maybe Jet2 could be persuaded to move back to T1?

Nostoodian

28th Sep 2019 11:02

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Originally Posted by Scottie Dog (Post 10581374)

Terminal 2X is opening in April next year anyway so shouldn't be to much of a problem going forward. Is it the terminal capacity you were alluding to or the number of available free stands?

Scottie Dog

28th Sep 2019 11:42

It is the terminal capacity that I'm referring to. Yes, T2X opens in April , assuming all goes to plan, and whilst that is larger than T2 itself don't forget that T2 itself closes for 2 years for renovation.
I'm sure something will be worked out but it take time before it all falls into place.

zfw	28th Sep 2019 14:55

Terminal 2 may have outside capacity but internally there are no new inbound carousels or baggage chutes which are up to 18 months away. Logic would suggest if Virgin do take the long haul that Jet2 take up the empty space back at T1.

zfw	28th Sep 2019 14:59

Latest ACl showing Jet2 putting on 33000 seats from OCT some using an A330 300. And Bangladesh Biman starting from 4th Jan with B787 8 DAC via ZYL.

FFMAN

29th Sep 2019 15:36

Been sat in one of the T1 lounges for the last hour and have seen 3 TCX movements - 2 landings and 1 departure.
Have I missed something?

fjencl

29th Sep 2019 15:39

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Originally Posted by FFMAN (Post 10582339)

Been sat in one of the T1 lounges for the last hour and have seen 3 TCX movements - 2 landings and 1 departure.
Have I missed something?

Its probably the Smartlynx or avion express aircraft who's aircraft operate with TCX Livery flying the return passengers back.........isn't it ??????

Mr A Tis

29th Sep 2019 16:05

Yup the leased Avion & Smartlynx aircraft are still in TCX colours, but now operating under Titan callsigns for repatriation flights. I think they were damp leased, so not sure where the cabin crew are coming from, possibly TCX crew on a short term contract with Titan?

Johnny F@rt Pants

29th Sep 2019 17:00

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Have I missed something?

Yes, their registration numbers, none are Thomas Cook’s own aeroplanes.

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