The congestion will come later MANFOD, and will be guaranteed. Over on the infrastructure pages, 'Wing Tips' tells us The Hut Group plans to build to office blocks on the north side of Ringway Road West, with space for 10,000 workers, In addition, there will be 2 other six-story office buildings, with a total of 184,000 square feet of floor space. At a guess all 3 buildings between them could generate up to 5,000 extra vehicles requiring access to the site......They'll need a 'relief road' for the 'relief road.

Ah, ZOOKER, that's a different but very valid point. Personally, I'm pleased that at last there is more positive news publicly about Airport City developments, but I agree they will throw up challenges for road traffic although I've no idea about the number of extra vehicles you mention.

Expect new routes for EZY to be announced soon, at least 3more a/c to come for next summer.

, probably a good idea as it's against the law to operate a phone whilst in charge of a vehicle!

Yes but they werent in motion at the time..in fact far from it by all accounts

Time for you to brush up on your knowledge of mobile phone laws

Well done MANworker. Saturday afternoons and evenings are traditionally the quietest times of the week. Runway 05R/23L closes at 4pm, due to the fall-off in traffic, so hopefully one would expect nothing less.

Still plenty of arrivals just few departures Zooker

But, if A-CDM is working, you would expect the level of customer-service you experienced to be there at all times MANworker. It obviously isn't.

I thought MAN were yet to implement CDM?

If this is what you are talking about, it was expected to be introduced in 2013.

https://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/...cision-making/

That's it - thank you

And on the Eurocontrol website, it currently shows those airports that have implemented A-CDM

https://www.eurocontrol.int/node/10666/index.php

So only 5 years late so far at MAN...I wonder why?

Thanks.
LCDM? Is that Local Collaborative Decision Making?
And could you explain how this works at MAN please? Bit out of the loop nowadays.

I agree entirely that knowing a few hours in advance that there is going to be a surge in late arrivals for example can't just magic up resources nowadays but maybe it can avoid some issues that would otherwise make the situation worse.

Trouble is that most people nowadays expects to travel for next to nothing and still have a great service. However in order to do this all the parties involved have had to cut costs and resources to the bone, which is fine when it all goes right. But when it goes wrong - as it often does, always has and always will - then there is no contingency and things rapidly descend into chaos. And with social media this gets picked up quickly and is spread around the world in minutes.

Glad to be out of all this now.

Correct, Sir. LCDM is Local CDM limited to just the ground handling time stamps and not the ATC ones which come with full implementation. It's a sort of first stage of a phased introduction. Deadline for MAN to be fully A-CDM is the end of 2020. Contract award imminent for supply and installation of systems at MAN (partially funded by Eurocontrol / EU not quite sure who), and looking to implement over the next 12 months. Makes sense for MAN to remain part of this whatever Brexit throws up but I guess that, along with everything else, is yet to be decided. I agree with those who say A-CDM will not mitigate for lack of resource in the ground handling world but it should provide a better tool for tactical allocation of resource.

Primera Air flights from MAN-AGP will now not start as the airline has gone into Administration.

Re CDM etc
Thanks Roverman