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RB Thruster 7th Jul 2019 14:33


Originally Posted by Scottie Dog (Post 10498963)
I presume you are referring to Ryanair then I agree with your comment. You must also remember that the route is well served by Lufthansa and there is no way that I can see them closing the route.

yes, but the price of the Lufthansa flights is outrageous compared to Ryanair. So it’s going to be Schönefeld to Luton, EMA or MAN for me next year, all of which mean heading up to Berlin the night before!


chaps1954 7th Jul 2019 15:13

If Ryanair are dropping MAN to FRA there must be a reason, either not making any money or maybe had a fallout with one of the airport ( not Manchester as they are still expanding )

Rutan16 7th Jul 2019 17:05

If you are working in the state of Thuringia especially in the eastern areas crossing over the boarder to Prague may well give better fares and frequencies if you are on a strict budget !


Scottie Dog 7th Jul 2019 19:51

Ooops an error has crept into my initial load-factor file for April and May. There was an extra TCX flight to JFK that I had not noticed and also I had missed a formula for YVR. I think I should say that this data is 'work in progress'

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Scottie Dog 8th Jul 2019 18:45

Update #98 courtesy of the MANTP Team to whom I give full credit:

Part 1

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Scottie Dog 8th Jul 2019 18:46

Part 2
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GrahamK 9th Jul 2019 09:34

New routes from easyJet
Verona 2 x weekly year round
Hurghada and Rovaniemi 2 x weekly winter only

Habana2118 9th Jul 2019 10:22

Who has taken the Premier handling contracts if they are no longer trading ?

The96er 9th Jul 2019 14:18


Originally Posted by Habana2118 (Post 10513687)
Who has taken the Premier handling contracts if they are no longer trading ?

Menzies - Loganair
Stobart - Aurigny / Eurowings
Swissport - EL AL
Aviator - Titan


spannersatcx 9th Jul 2019 20:03

heard that the apron concrete on 110 is breaking up, TUI was stopped taxiing onto stand due metal reinforcing rods sticking out of the concrete!

BHX5DME 9th Jul 2019 20:27

Winter 19/20 Slots
 
Movements +1.8%

Seats + 4.1%

EZYMAN 9th Jul 2019 22:20

Slot information for W19

Alitalia Daily LIN
SpiceJet BOM
Lauda Motion RIX
Anisec (Level) SZG
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-Report.pdf

AndrewH52 9th Jul 2019 22:31


Originally Posted by EZYMAN (Post 10514392)
Slot information for W19

Alitalia Daily LIN
SpiceJet BOM
Lauda Motion RIX
Anisec (Level) SZG
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...ion-Report.pdf

Presumably Lauda would operate instead of Ryanair on Riga? Can’t see both airlines on the route.

Ex Cargo Clown 10th Jul 2019 00:22


Originally Posted by Nostoodian (Post 10507303)
If this is the case then is the MAN - PEK service even profitable and sustainable using an A330-300? It would seem a 787-900 daily service would be a much better fit as others have said. It seems like a strange decision by Hainan not to change equipment on the route. The route can't be doing that bad as Hainan was thinking of starting a 3 x daily Guangzhou route not long ago. Checking through multiple dates later in the year, economy fares seemed quite cheap so yield could be quite low. Then again there's plenty of competition from other airlines as you can fly to Beijing indirect for £350 return on certain months later in autumn. Maybe Hainan knows something we don't. With the Virgin takeover of Flybe and possible Thomas Cook long haul in the future, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Virgin could take on a Chinese route like Beijing with the opening of Daxing International. They already serve Shanghai from Heathrow. Does Virgin have any codeshares with Chinese Airlines?

I believe the PEK yields are not brilliant but sustainable.

CAN I think would be commercial suicide unless heavily subsidised. No real market, too close to HKG plus it would make CX rather unhappy.

As for the last question (may have been answered not seen the rest of the thread). Pretty sure CA operate a codeshare with VS on LHR-PEK.

Suzeman 10th Jul 2019 08:17


Originally Posted by spannersatcx (Post 10514260)
heard that the apron concrete on 110 is breaking up, TUI was stopped taxiing onto stand due metal reinforcing rods sticking out of the concrete!

Blimey - that sounds like a major defect.

Good job someone was on the ball whilst preparing the stand for the arrival.

Nostoodian 10th Jul 2019 08:28


Originally Posted by Ex Cargo Clown (Post 10514454)
I believe the PEK yields are not brilliant but sustainable.

CAN I think would be commercial suicide unless heavily subsidised. No real market, too close to HKG plus it would make CX rather unhappy.

As for the last question (may have been answered not seen the rest of the thread). Pretty sure CA operate a codeshare with VS on LHR-PEK.

I think Hainan should maybe leave Guangzhou well alone like you say. China Southern would be the best fit for Guangzhou offering splendid connectivity to the rest of China. I'd like to see Hainan offer a service a few days a week to their hub in Xian, but as FFman alluded to, non Chinese passengers have lost interest in their product. Xian - Beijing is a very popular Tourist route.

Scottie Dog 10th Jul 2019 09:18


Originally Posted by Suzeman (Post 10514665)
Blimey - that sounds like a major defect.

Good job someone was on the ball whilst preparing the stand for the arrival.

As has been said it's good to know that somebody was keeping their eyes open. I'm just slightly surprised that there has been no OAN or NOTAM issued to show that the stand is closed for repairs?

MANworker 10th Jul 2019 11:21

Can’t believe they’ve not repaired stand 110 from last week when a TUI was held off stand and stand changed due to the same issues. There’s 2/3 rods just off centre line and a big chunk of concrete missing further down the stand

spannersatcx 10th Jul 2019 19:19


Originally Posted by MANworker (Post 10514861)
Can’t believe they’ve not repaired stand 110 from last week when a TUI was held off stand and stand changed due to the same issues. There’s 2/3 rods just off centre line and a big chunk of concrete missing further down the stand

it may well be the same one I was told of?

BHX5DME 10th Jul 2019 20:06

MAN over 29m pax
 
https://mediacentre.magairports.com/...he-first-time/


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