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DUB19 9th Dec 2019 22:02


Originally Posted by andybsei (Post 10635794)
The airport confirmed to me in a tweet today that: "we may still introduce US pre-clearance in the future but currently the airport community do not believe that the benefits it would bring can justify the resulting increase in ticket prices".

not worth it. It would be convenient but really you need somewhere that acts as a feeder airport such as DUB. EI Connects PAX from Europe to N America and N America to Europe where as MAN just acts as people’s ‘local airport’

monarchnew 10th Dec 2019 09:09

Has anyone got any idea what aircraft types TUI are basing in MAN for the coming summer?

Have they increased capacity much after the loss of Thomas Cook?

chaps1954 10th Dec 2019 09:13

I read the other day on another forum that it is 3 B789 plus part time B788, 2 B763 , 13 B738 and the bit I cannot remember is how many B752
but of course this all depends on the MAX situation.

MANFOD 10th Dec 2019 09:21


Originally Posted by DUB19 (Post 10635905)


not worth it. It would be convenient but really you need somewhere that acts as a feeder airport such as DUB. EI Connects PAX from Europe to N America and N America to Europe where as MAN just acts as people’s ‘local airport’

Are you just a wind-up merchant? If not, I'd be interested in how you define 'local'.

brian_dromey 10th Dec 2019 12:02


Originally Posted by MANFOD (Post 10636190)
Are you just a wind-up merchant? If not, I'd be interested in how you define 'local'.

I assume he’s talking about the high level of O&D at MAN, rather than suggesting MAN is some sort of tinpot backwater. There is no dominant hub airline at MAN, which limits commenting flow. A lot of posters are obsessed with connections, as if they solve any problem. But the reality is connections are low-yield, helping to fill the plane, but not necessarily profitable. All of MANs long haul is supported by good volume and good yield O&D, which is quite an achievement.

Scottie Dog 11th Dec 2019 15:41

Update #120 from the MANTP Team - to whom full credit is given.

I believe that all reference to taxilane Victor-Bravo is incorrect and should be to Taxilane Juliet

https://i.ibb.co/TvhT3xm/Screenshot-562.png

https://i.ibb.co/nbQpFjr/Screenshot-563.png

https://i.ibb.co/8gkSzh2/Screenshot-565.png

https://i.ibb.co/T1Hj4nQ/Screenshot-566.png

https://i.ibb.co/CVqW4cJ/Screenshot-569.png

https://i.ibb.co/9NKykgX/Screenshot-570.png

https://i.ibb.co/fCvQg5H/Screenshot-572.png

Scottie Dog 11th Dec 2019 15:42

Part 2

https://i.ibb.co/VvtJjn0/Screenshot-575.png

https://i.ibb.co/VLymqfq/Screenshot-576.png

https://i.ibb.co/S55t0T8/Screenshot-578.png

https://i.ibb.co/p2f1L1H/Screenshot-579.png

This last picture is taken from the latest MANTP video and show, at the bottom right, the area in the above slide that will be used as an airside coaching area.
https://i.ibb.co/zFKW1YR/Screenshot-582.png

Mr Mac 12th Dec 2019 11:32

I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
Regards
Mr Mac

Previously posted on SLF with no responses, so SOS suggested I try hear.

Union Jack 12th Dec 2019 11:36


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10637999)
SOS
Will give it a shot.
Kind regards
Mr Mac

Speedy or what!

Jack

MANFAN 12th Dec 2019 14:16


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10638002)
I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
Regards
Mr Mac

Previously posted on SLF with no responses, so SOS suggested I try hear.

I"d also be interested to know how this happened...who handles EK @MAN?
The ground crew have to inform the flight crew prior to a disconnect...but did this happen?

spannersatcx 12th Dec 2019 15:49

Sometimes the FEP can trip off on its own accord.

750XL 12th Dec 2019 16:49


Originally Posted by MANFAN (Post 10638127)
I"d also be interested to know how this happened...who handles EK @MAN?
The ground crew have to inform the flight crew prior to a disconnect...but did this happen?

Dnata handle EK.

FEP or GPU power being accidentally disconnected happens multiple times a day, at MAN alone - nevermind across the globe! Whether it's through the FEP/GPU tripping, the GPU running out of fuel, someone accidentally turning the GPU/FEP off, knocking the cable out of the socket etc... I've seen it all before.

Including people driving the GPU away whilst it's still attached :O

MANFAN 12th Dec 2019 19:04

[QUOTE=750XL;10638228]Dnata handle EK.

FEP or GPU power being accidentally disconnected happens multiple times a day, at MAN alone - nevermind across the globe! Whether it's through the FEP/GPU tripping, the GPU running out of fuel, someone accidentally turning the GPU/FEP off, knocking the cable out of the socket etc... I've seen it all before.

Including people driving the GPU away whilst it's still attached

Interesting...thanks for the insight. I’ve not much idea how ground ops work, however, if it’s causing a big problem, as in this case, what improvements can be made to reduce the chances of this happening before it actually needs disconnecting...? Appreciate it’s sometimes too easy for this to happen...

spacedog 12th Dec 2019 19:41

It’s becoming the norm that tech crew are unwilling to Start the APU until the final moment.
untill the APU has started the ground crew shouldn’t remove the external power.
my observations are that tech crew get clearance APU just started or about to start.
Ground power is removed sometimes to early. Complete reboot needed which takes 30 to 40 mins aircraft dependent.
Some tech crew English is appalling, some refuse to speak in English, mixed messages happen causing last minute snags.
Do not always blame the contractor. In my experience most of the time the fault is with the tech crew. Lack of communication then want immediate pushback.


MANworker 13th Dec 2019 05:13

1 year of Ethiopian at MAN, glad to see the pax figures have been climbing, in the last week I’ve seen figures of 190+ EX-MAN so looking good for the route

Mr Mac 13th Dec 2019 13:06

Thanks for the reply. I am not sure this is that common, or if it is, I have been very lucky as this, as I say was a first, and I do a minimum of circa 250000 flying miles a year and never experienced it. Thanks for the back ground re handlers as I know someone in Geneva who is quite senior at Dnata , so I think some gentle leg pulling maybe in order ! Anybody know who recompenses the airline for the delay / extra fuel burn will that be Dnata as well ?

Kind regards
Mr Mac

Una Due Tfc 13th Dec 2019 23:55


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10638996)
Thanks for the reply. I am not sure this is that common, or if it is, I have been very lucky as this, as I say was a first, and I do a minimum of circa 250000 flying miles a year and never experienced it. Thanks for the back ground re handlers as I know someone in Geneva who is quite senior at Dnata , so I think some gentle leg pulling maybe in order ! Anybody know who recompenses the airline for the delay / extra fuel burn will that be Dnata as well ?

Kind regards
Mr Mac

EK own Dnata so doesn’t really matter either way!

flyerguy 14th Dec 2019 12:52

VY upgrading to 321 on a daily flight and going from 10 to 11 weekly!

TURIN 14th Dec 2019 15:59


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 10638002)
I had a first on Friday 29th Nov with EK when on the evening flight. The the ground power was disconnected before the A/C power was up. Total black out on board and 45min delay before all systems back up. It was a first for me, and the re boot time surprised me a little. Italian skipper also obviously not impressed as we had a quick take off and fast trip to DXB, be interested to know who picks up the tab for fuel etc.
Regards
Mr Mac

Previously posted on SLF with no responses, so SOS suggested I try hear.


It happens. Somethimes its a breakdown in communication between gound crew/engineer/flight deck, I've even see a flight crew deselect the gound power before the APU is on-line. Often it just drops off line on its own. It's been a major headache at MAN for years. The 'newer' aircraft such as the A350 and B787 are very heavy electrical users (up to 180 KvA) and the FEP (Fixed Electrical Power) at MAN has been subject to upgrades ever since the 747-400 appeared but as usual at MAN it seems to be on the cheap every time. Any delay caused will be subject to the usual blame game. Ground handling, airport equipment or tech etc.

Scottie Dog 14th Dec 2019 16:15

Turin - are the new FEP installations, as part of the MANTP project, up to scratch in your opinion?


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