I'm sure MAN could fill them on some routes in the winter... But another benefit if they were 100% owned is they just park them up for the winter...

I wish this forum would go back to proper discussion based on likely rumours , not a spotters dream :(

Some weekdays in winters past, Jet2 have operated ZERO flights out of MAN, yet you want to burden them with massive 300 seater twins as well as their recent order for brand new B737-800s..? :ugh:

Just out of interest, how much more would it cost to operate a B772 from MAN to TFS with 189 PAX than a B738? Same route, prevision and baggage.

Just to try and dampen the w**k fantasy 777 story a little further with some hypothetical maths.........
To park a 777-200ER at Manchester for 24 hours over the winter would cost £357 (makes NCP look cheap doesn't it!)
So, lets be positive and assume you can actually find somewhere to operate it semi-profitably over the weekends. On Saturday morning, the plane owes you £1785 in weekday parking fees before the first passenger boards (or £6 per passenger in your suggested layout).
Operating at low yields over the winter period, that £6 could actually be the airlines net operating margin per ticket before tax................

I appreciate the numbers provided in your reply, thank you very much, however you neglected to include the thousands of extra pounds it has the potential to rake in over the summer months and the fact that from somewhere like MAN they can probably find somewhere capable of supporting a 280 seater at least every day even in the winter. TFS, ALC, PMI

In 5 years time parking the 777's would be much cheaper than parking their brand new 737's (if they're still paying them off)

Can't think of any regular "sun and sand" flights in Europe (and no, Russia doesn't count...) using the 777 - there might be a reason for that.

Wouldn't take jig time to rip out those lovely comfy seats up front and replace with ten rows of Y. That's EXS style.

http://www.seatplans.com/assets/Airlines/malaysia-airlines/seatplans/Malaysia_B777-2000-1.jpg

This site was once a serious forum.

I despair. :ugh:

That's because no-ones snapped up any cheap second hand ones yet ;)

Nowt wrong with discussion... Not as if I'm arranging board meetings with Jet2 about it

The definition of rumour, "a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth" isn't far from that of fantasy "the faculty or activity of imagining impossible or improbable things" Both of them have one beauty... They are open to interpretation and wishful thinking

Don't be so boring

A320 Titan lease
 

Is that the Titan A320(based at Glasgow) lease finished for the season?
I see if flew back to Stansted yesterday afternoon, and is operating for TCX today.

Jet2 EDI - PMI
 

Jet2 flight this morning LS717 from Edinburgh to Palma reg G-CELP is circling in hold above Leeds at 13,000ft

Edit at 9.25: Occasionally climbing to 16500 ft, before returning to hold at 13,000ft. Circling North and East of LBA (Wetherby, Skipton area. (FR24)

Edit at 9.40 Still holding in above pattern at 13,000ft (FR24) as EXS44B (LS717) Squawk 2246 -

Anyone aware of what's the problem/issue?

Assumption -

Aircraft possibly has a minor technical issue that will prevent it from returning from Palma, there is a spare aeroplane and crew in Leeds. The aeroplane will be over landing weight therefore holds off and burns fuel before landing.

Looks like you're correct - G-CELZ is now showing on final approach into PMI at 13.20BST (Flight no. EXS717A from LBA), and so is replacement a/c for G-CELP. - Return LS/EXS 718 showing as 3 hrs delay PMI-EDI

Must have been some sort of tech issue like Johnny said.

LS717 G-CELP arrived LBA at 10:02 this morning,
LS717A G-CELZ departed LBA at 11:22 this morning.

1hr 20min, Not to bad moving the service (pax, crew) onto the spare aircraft :ok:

UPDATE: LS718 now airbourne to EDI, due in 2hr 25mins late.

B733 G-GDFO spent a couple of days on the ground in Belfast, hadn't moved since Friday and seemed to need the attention of the fix-it Navajo. Back in the air today.

Looks like JET2 are having a good year according to Business Desk.


JET2.COM owner Dart Group expects to soar past its profit targets after enjoying an "exceptional" summer.


The Leeds-based holding company, which also owns distribution and logistics business Fowler Welch, expects operating profit for the six months to September to be above £140m - 60% ahead of last year.


This is being driven by strong growth in its package holidays, with Jet2holidays approaching the 1m customer mark after a 21% increase this summer.


The airline also continues to perform well, increasing its average load factor - a measure of capacity - by 2.3 percentage points to 94.1%, with average ticket yields up 16.4%.


In a statement to the stock market, the company said: "With winter 15/16 leisure travel bookings for both package holiday and flight-only products continuing to perform in line with expectations and notwithstanding the important post-Christmas booking period that is still to come, it is now apparent that group performance for the full year ending March 31 2016 will materially exceed current market expectations."


Dart Group has enjoyed a strong run on the stock market, with its share price rising from 290p at the start of the year to last night's close of 464p, a 60% increase which sees the group now valued at £716m.

Does this mean we get a bonus like some in management ?

Tonker, you funny man :ok:

Jet2
 

Shame the share price doesn't seem to be following all the hype. Perhaps the masters of the universe know something we don't.

The early foot soldiers were given share options at various points. In the range of 15-20p I believe! Unsurprisingly that option has been removed.

The shares have been there to buy my first lot were 16p.
So there is a chance to back your company.

Having said all that i find it good practise to offer staff the chance to buy shares in their company. Like a uniform it makes you part of that family.
Once again its something i will discuss at either the AGM or before if i get chance to meet.

For what its worth i sold my entire stake in the high 490`s as i am a little nervous of the change in direction by the company.
Even paying half price for their new planes could see 50 million in depreciation taken off the profits.
house brokers have profit falling from almost 50p a share to 32p a share next year.
If thats true the shares should be around 320p.

tiger

Shares
 

No more shares at 15p cos there's no "f" in "team" anymore. More resignations me thinks as TCX and the rest open up.

Canarias good news
 

Some good news released this week by Spanish airport authority AENA. From 31st October 2015 handling agent Globilaria Handling will move to a newly refurbished area of Las Palmas Airport. Passengers, including those of Jet2 (who use this handling agent in LPA) will benefit from a new, modern, functional check-in environment with subdued lighting and the latest check-in technology.

The new area is approximately 500 meters from the old check-in area which Globilaria shared with Iberia and so it is likely many of Jet2's regular customers in Gran Canaria will find themselves in completely the wrong part of the airport until they get used to the change.

The new area includes totally new facilities such as pharmacy, restaurant, newsagent and gift shop and Jet2 customers should find their landside experience considerably improved over customers of other airlines still stuck in the old check-in area at the other end of the terminal.

If staff are leaving its sad. Clearly a normal company get a "churn" but this should be no more than average.
All the staff I speak to on my flights seem happy ( maybe they watch what they say).........but agree its all about a partnership.
People want to feel part of something and it saddens me that all the good work being done is not felt by the majority.


Tiger

per Travelmole:

Doh! If you are travelling with hand baggage only, how then do you open your duty free bag on arrival at your destination, after all, if security have done their job, you will not have scissors or a sharp object in your cabin bag to start with?

Are gate staff going to inspect all duty free bags on boarding and check that all containing alcohol are sealed? Will they then have to inspect all passengers hand baggage to ensure that a duty free bag containing alcohol has not been opened pre boarding and hidden in that bag? :rolleyes:

Another, not thought through properly, Yorkshire Airlines mess.

No. That's the whole point of the special bags :rolleyes:

Well, you go to hotel reception and ask for a pair of scissors. I think even the standard knuckle dragging chav could've thought of that.

As you say if security have done their job properly how are the bags going to be opened in between duty free and the gate?!

I guess they've called it a trial to see if it works before it's fully implemented- as part of the thought process.

Could`nt have put it better meself Chesty :D and of course `Yorkshire Airlines`are at least trying to combat a serious onboard problem :D

You mean to say that the majority of Jet2's passengers are alcoholics? If that is the case, I must make sure that for my own safety I never fly with them again.

How often has a problem arisen for this draconian measure to be trialled and forced upon their Manchester and Glasgow passengers? Where are the stats to support this?

The problem is not on board. It starts in the terminal with some passengers excess drinking and then being allowed to board their flights despite being the worse for drink. More should be refused at the gate. It is these passengers that having developed a taste in the terminal then want more alcohol on flights and aren't prepared to pay Jet2's on board prices,wait for service or are refused more by cabin staff.

The problem is at the gate on boarding. That is already in Jet2's hands.

No, drinking of ones own alcohol onboard is becoming an increasing problem. I applaud Jet2 for this trial.

IB Plenty have this year in our "crackdown", and I mean PLENTY!

As you rightly say, a big issue is with people drinking heavily whilst waiting in the airport. The problem is that this alcohol intake doesn't have an immediate effect, it takes a while to get into the system fully. So, having drunk up to the time to present themselves for boarding they appear quite OK, 20-40 minutes later, they deteriorate, by which time the amount of oxygen they are breathing has now reduced too.

This policy should be applauded as an attempt to stamp out this minority who just can't abide and think that rules don't apply to them.

If I'm not mistaken I seem to remember a long time back when flying from Canada (I think), that any duty free drink was put in a sealed bag and then delivered to the aeroplane to prevent people drinking it between buying it and boarding....The next step I suspect.

This year, Glasgow started taking duty free bags off passengers before boarding due to issues on board with passengers on board drinking their own alcohol. This was particularly bad on the Ibiza and Prague trips. Not long after that, the rest of the company followed suit and every week, the number of bags of duty free taken for safe keeping were totalled and published to every base in the company. Leeds and East Mids for example were taking around 5-8 bags of duty free, Manchester would crack double figures regularly, but Glasgow would daily take 25-30 bags off passengers more often than not. Passengers were soon catching onto this and were smuggling it on board. I saw people drinking out of 100ml shampoo bottles.

I see ex jet2 757 G-LSAL is being scrapped by Allegiant Air and it's only 22 years old

Jet2 branding and marketing
 

There has been a bit of chatter on the EXS facebook group about the Jet2.com branding. People saying that tagging .com onto the end of your company name is an outdated concept from before "everyone" was on the internet. Someone also said that it annuls the whole original marketing concept of Jet2 i.e. Jet to <a destination>. I am inclined to agree. Anyone else got any thoughts?

Really? Do you think it makes any difference as to whether anybody buys a flight/holiday? :eek:

It was said before, it's Jet2.com because someone else has the rights to the Jet2 brand name. And no it doesn't make a blind bit of difference, except to spotters.

I agree it doesn't make a blind bit of difference but the statement above is incorrect. If you check via the Intellectual Property Office (www.ipo.gov.uk) then you can see that Jet2 has the trademarks to both Jet2 and Jet2.com registered throughout the EU, so they cannot be held or used by anyone else.

Flew man-bcn last weekend with jet-2 and have to say the whole experience was far better than many other airlines ive used within the last year or so.
ok we had a slight delay out bound due to the captain breaking his seatbelt just prior to departure, but the crew were friendly and attentive, the mrs wasn't feeling to well on the return and one of the crew kept returning to see if she was ok and if she needed anything :D...the aircraft was clean and comfortable(g-celd) which I believe has been wfu this week..
my only gripe on the return trip was they were offering free baggage check-in due to the amount of carry-on luggage on board. (we'd already paid for ours in advance) all in all wouldn't hesitate to use jet-2 again..

Purple
 

That was ME!!! It would happen on my annual check flight too:{:{

Glad you had a good time, until the next one. have a great Christmas.