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sunday8pm 2nd May 2013 09:17

Onyxcrowle, I'm a little confused. Are you suggesting Jet2 from Doncaster to Moscow!?

Chitty 7th May 2013 17:44

does any one if jet2 have dropped there Leeds Belfast route as its not bookable from June 2013

AIRPORT66 9th May 2013 21:15

airport66
 
I see jet2 have pulled there Leeds from Belfast is this a little rant from jet2 because of the issues with the runway or will they replace it with something else.

cornishsimon 9th May 2013 21:23

Was that not the last remaining Jet2 "domestic" route ?



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BFS BHD 9th May 2013 21:26

Belfast-Blackpool & Belfast-Jersey still operating also Leeds-Jersey i think :)

take-off 10th May 2013 10:22

See on flight radar , LS751 blk tfs climbing out of faro just before 11am, showing an hour plus delay now on tfs website, any reason for this?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 10th May 2013 11:00

Tech stop en-route for a refuel I would imagine, or medical divert maybe.

Hotel Tango 10th May 2013 11:01

Planned fuel stop possibly due to strong head winds or payload restriction departing EGNH. Nothing particularly unusual. Happens sometimes.

LNIDA 10th May 2013 15:36

The headwinds on that route have been strong all week, 6:30 flight time from Scandi land and EU -OPS reduced CF with go/no go fuel at RALUS is common in these conditions, quick flight north mind

EK77WNCL 11th May 2013 13:52

Relating to the earlier post, I really hope LS isn't ridding themselves of their 757's, after all there must be some early 2000 models out there which they could get that have another 10-15 years in them. If LS were to restart Egypt (unlikely) or venture into Cape Verde or the Gambia, they would be able to use their 75's there and would probably realise how valuable they are. It would be very, very interesting to see a fully loaded 738 try to get out of LBA on a 6.5 hour flight to the Cape Verde's.

Has there been any news on those 767's LS have been "getting" for about 5 years. Last I heard they were out in Brazil looking at 2 ex Varig models but they were horribly corroded and they decided not to look any further into them. Is there any chance of LS ever getting 767's because I could really see them doing well because we all know how good LS is at finding niches that just somehow work. I think the 762ER might be good for them if they can find any worth buying, simply because it has better short runway capabilities, thus would not take such a payload hit from LBA. If not I've always thought they might go for some ex BA models because it fits with LS's business model. Rolls Royce engine commonality with the 757's, slightly closer pilot commonality with the 757's and finally, due to them being a relative novelty with the RB211's they'll probably go quite cheap, the only problem would be the age. Other options could be an ex EK A330, RR engines, young, cheap, but no commonality. Or maybe an ex FCA/TOM 767, but then, no engine commonality and they're quite old too...

I would like to see either an LS 763ER (RB211) or an LS A330 200 (Trents)

Thanks

AP1995 11th May 2013 14:38

Jet2's 757 have preformed LBA-NYC several times without a struggle, also completely full.

righthandrule 11th May 2013 16:18

The 757's are to stay. There won't be any more added but the existing airframes will be around for a while yet.

The current way forward for the business is getting some 737-800's as these are the future, the 737-300 is too small for some of the longer holiday routes and the 757 is too big for the city routes. The 800 is ideal for a hop down to Barcelona then a hop down to the canaries in the afternoon.

Getting 767's would be a backward step, the fleet is being mondernised to improve punctuality, getting some 20+ year old 767 would be silly. An airline of Jet2's size (~ 50 aircraft) need to look at the future and how to keep growing at the current rate (7-10% a year) with minimal risk. Modernising and expanding with 737-800's and newer (~ 10 year old) 737-300's is definatley the way forward until the airline gets to a size where a substantial new aircraft order is feasible.

In my opinion, the NYC flights are unique and help keep the ETOP's guys going for the winter charters. Long haul might be a nice thought but a risk probably not worth taking in this climate. As much as Florida, Dom Rep, Mexico etc may now fit into the Jet2Holidays business model im sure they are a few years off yet.

EK77WNCL 12th May 2013 11:34

AIP1995, yeah, they also do LBA-JED for hajj too and they will be completely full too. My comment was that the 737 800 has nowhere near the runway performance of the 757. I've seen Ryanair 738's to Spain, Greece and the Canaries using just about every last inch available at LBA.

I see what you mean about getting 767's, however, Jet2 has wanted to do long haul for a while and, I realise the climate is terrible right now, but, what about my comment suggesting the A330? Could a 12 year old EK A330 not be a better option than a 25 year old ex BA 767? A330's have good runway performance too.

Either that or would it be feasible to operate long haul flights with their 757's with a tech stop. I don't know, it's Just LS seems to be able to make the strangest things work. They could even just operate it like their one offs that they do.

OntimeexceptACARS 14th May 2013 13:17

737-300s
 

Modernising and expanding with 737-800's and newer (~ 10 year old) 737-300's is definatley the way forward
Righthand, the last B737-300s were delivered new in 1999, making the newest ones 14 years old now. Just saying.

B738 seems to be very flexible and with plenty of second hand stock knocking about it has to be the way forward. The operating cost of a B738 over an older B733 wouldn't be hugely more? Guess leasing rates weighed against more maint for the older frames.

AP1995 14th May 2013 17:48

TOM also fly SSH on a 737-800 every week from LBA and it does that fine.

JKKne 14th May 2013 18:22


Originally Posted by basilfawlty
which flights will the a320 operate? Anyone has a full weekly schedule for it?

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Type Rated B767 15th May 2013 16:59

Interesting to see it doesnt go anywhere but Spain...

BasilFawlty 15th May 2013 16:59

Was already mentioned in the Newcastle thread, but thanks anyway! :ok:

righthandrule 16th May 2013 11:23

The NCL A320 does indeed only do flights to Spain as it is replacing a 737-300 that was initially planned. The 757's do the longer flights and the other 737's at NCL do the likes of PRG, VCE, FCO etc etc, its much easier to fill those extra 20 seats on the Airbus on a holiday flight than a city flight during May-September. That's why its hopping back and forth to Espana twice a day.

Lord Spandex Masher 16th May 2013 11:28

The other 737s at Newcastle do Spanish routes as well.

Jetblast79 18th May 2013 03:15

Hi,

Ive seen that Alicante base is being extended all year round. Even next summer season (2014) with 2 more aircrafts, up to 3. However, the rotations are only in the morning, even with 3 aircrafts! Anybody knows why?

There are also some free slots in the morning, do you think any new route to non-based cities could be launched?

Thx

ILS32 18th May 2013 10:20

I may be wrong but wasn't it suggested that they might be used as standby for aircraft going tech?. It makes sense positioning from Alicante rather than positioning from the UK.Good for customer relations and would cut the waiting time for a relief aircraft to collect the stranded passengers and bring them home.

TSR2 18th May 2013 10:42


It makes sense positioning from Alicante rather than positioning from the UK
Not if the delay is at a UK airport.

AP1995 18th May 2013 11:03

ILS32 is right, if an aircraft goes in tech down route, the chance are ALC is nearer then an UK airport, obviously Jet2 have standby aircraft based in the UK also.

TSR2 18th May 2013 11:33

Stand-by aircraft in both UK and Spain ??

LBIA 18th May 2013 12:07

Looks like Jet2 have acquired the 2 ex bmi baby Boeing 737-300 aircraft afteral. G-TOYM was registered on Thursday as G-GDFT while G-TOYJ will be registered as G-GDFS very shortly.

Flying Wild 18th May 2013 21:23


Originally Posted by TSR2 (Post 7849223)
Not if the delay is at a UK airport.

Which is why there are UK based standby aircraft and crews too!

Shaman 19th May 2013 17:23

The EXS 6166 from EDI today the 19th May took off for ABZ, did a hold over Perth, then returned to EDI despite FR24.com showing that it was an EDI to ALC flight!

Anyone any facts?

Flying Wild 19th May 2013 17:56

It was a charter EDI-EDI. No idea what for though.
FR24 probably confused callsign, hence indicating it was off to ALC.

Shaman 19th May 2013 18:12

Thanks for the quick reply!

flybar 19th May 2013 18:30

Virgin 'Fear of Flying' flight - Jet2 do a number of them for Virgin

Shaman 19th May 2013 18:33

Thanks again - that would make sense and account for the routing.

Chille Con Carnie 19th May 2013 19:42

I hear that G-GDFT is in the hangar & is getting some TLC before going on line.

silverstreak 19th May 2013 19:57

LS6166 / G-CELP / Undertook a quick mission this afternoon, EDI-EDI... It was indeed a VS 'fear of flying' flight.

Departed EDI 1623 local, from Rway 06, headed for Perth and climbed to FL150 temporarily. Landed back on 06 at 1654 local.

flyOU 25th May 2013 14:14

new route from 25 May 2014

EDI-PUY ------7

Keyvon 5th Jun 2013 11:30

It appears they will drop:

- Toulouse
- La Rochelle
- Nice
- Bergerac
- Tel Aviv
- Olbia

altogether by the end of this summer timetable.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Pula (Croatia) is to swap from Glasgow to Edinburgh, as for next summer.

NRU74 5th Jun 2013 19:40

Keyvon
Where did you get the info re Nice ?
At the moment they are operating fron Man,Leeds and EMA with quite high load factors- or so it seemed a few days ago.

Ringwayman 5th Jun 2013 20:05

I would suggest all bar Tel Aviv are summer-only destinations and Tel Aviv may down to competition from easyJet?

airhumberside 5th Jun 2013 20:09

The full Summer 2014 schedule is not yet on sale. Jet 2 are having a phased release of different destinations per week. The only one that can probably be regarded as dropped is Tel Aviv, since that has always been a year round route, buts ends in early November

The others will probably appear in the next few weeks (it's always possible a destination or two will be dropped, but it would be surprising to see everywhere on that list dropped)

mikkie4 5th Jun 2013 23:15

Nice picture of G-GDFV at SEN doing engine tests today (sen face book)


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