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Ian Brooks 14th Oct 2011 09:40

Jet2 4
In answer to previous post about G-GDFA being retired it has flown today to
Malaga so looks as if it may be used as an airspare until end of season as this
is it`s first flight for 7 days

MKY661 14th Oct 2011 15:20

Looking forward to the new 737-800's coming this winter, should do good for their expansion at MAN but i have heard only one of the new 3 will be based at MAN. Dont know wheather they will have normal Jet2 titles or Jet2Holidays titles.

Previous Thread: http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...2-3-a-224.html

Shoogly 14th Oct 2011 20:48

Trying to get my head around the situation with the 737-800s.

How many do they have in service at the moment and where are they based? My understing is two are heading north to Glasgow with the other(s) heading to Manchester.

Glasgow has somewhat of a limited winter flying programme this winter and was therefore wondering if they had already based an aircraft there?

The NG's will be a great addition to the fleet.


MKY661 14th Oct 2011 21:23

There are currently 2 in the fleet with 3 more due in December

jet2impress 15th Oct 2011 17:44

MKY is correct, 2 in service at the moment, both at MAN. MAN will have 3 based units next year with GLA having 1 or 2. Depending how many join, plans for 2/3 at the moment.

merv32249213 15th Oct 2011 19:57

Booked a holiday for next June, destination Malaga from Leeds Bradford and seat plan shows a lot of 3-2 with a seat on its own behind each 2 . What does all that mean or am I losing the plot. Not sure it is B737 or 757

TSR2 15th Oct 2011 20:18


Just checked two seperate dates in June and both show 3-3 configuration of a B733.

CabinCrewe 15th Oct 2011 20:25

its your browser

Topspotter 18th Oct 2011 18:12

CAA grounds jet 2 757
Anyone know know why? aircraft being repaired by monach at MAN by all accounts

LBIA 18th Oct 2011 18:31

I hope that's not true that the CAA have grounded the aircraft..

I guess it makes more sense for Jet2 to have there Manchester based 757 aircraft repaired/fixed by Monarch engineering instead parking it up at Leeds.

There is no room at Multiflight for another 757 sized aircraft at the moment. This is due to G-LSAE still be repaired by Boeing, After her little incident last month with the Wheelchair lifter.

jonathan78 18th Oct 2011 19:16

Monarch ain't fixing the 757 at man jet2 just using the hanger.

Mr @ Spotty M 19th Oct 2011 16:59

Well that is funny jonathan78, because they were fixing it originally, but l bow to you greater knowledge that Jet2 engineers have taken over.
The original defect found by the CAA was sorted by the MAEL AOG team, they also found some damage while rigging the L2 door.
MAEL's structures engineers then approached Boeing, as repair was not covered by a standard SRM repair.
So maybe the Jet2 engineers are carrying out the Boeing repair. :ok:

Topspotter 19th Oct 2011 17:02

Beg to differ, according to a member of our aviation group who works for jet 2 the damage was so bad jet 2 did not have the capability to repair it where as monach have boeing approval for this type of work

Mr @ Spotty M 19th Oct 2011 17:12

So it looks like MAEL are doing the whole thing then?

Topspotter 19th Oct 2011 17:21

Appears so, something to with monarch having special boeing approval for complex repairs where as jet 2 dont, and because the CAA found the damage and grounded to plane i suppose jet 2 have got to get it done correctly

Curious Pax 19th Oct 2011 17:30

Any indication of where the next 738s are coming from?

INKJET 19th Oct 2011 17:34

MAEL are the specialist in this type of work and makes sense for them to do it, I guess Jet2 acquired the aircraft in this state, but it should have been picked up because some one will have to pay to put it right, is it an owned airframe, the other concern is they will be now on the CAA radar

jonathan78 19th Oct 2011 20:42

My mistake I was told by an engineer at work that jet2 engineers were fixing it, I do no some of the engineers from Leeds went to look at it

757 Speedbrakes 19th Oct 2011 20:42

Which airframe is it?

LBIA 19th Oct 2011 21:18

G-LSAA is the aircraft that's in the Monarch hanger at Manchester while G-LSAE is at Multiflight at Leeds reciving treatment from Boeing.

Also it looks as though G-LSAK which is on lease to RAK Airways until May next year has gone tech somewhere. As Manchester based G-LSAC positioned out last night and has been covering its work today.

Mr @ Spotty M 19th Oct 2011 21:37

Jet2 have had the a/c for six years, so the problem would have manifested itself under Jet2 operation.

Papa2Charlie 19th Oct 2011 22:03

Anyone know what exact reason for the grounding is? Seems to be structural from previous posts but is it damage driven, corrosion, fatigue etc.??

Topspotter 19th Oct 2011 22:56

Im not a techie type but according to my pal at jet 2 the door had been "miss-rigged" by jet 2 some time ago and this caused the damage which monarch engineers are now rectifiying with boeings assistance, lucky for jet 2 monarch have agreed to help them out( however im sure it will be at a cost!)

PPRuNeUser0176 20th Oct 2011 19:39

What aircraft are Jet2 using on Tel-Aviv-Dublin lather tonight. Think a 757 but could be a 738.

LBIA 20th Oct 2011 20:11

Well it looks like the problem that made the CAA ground Jet2's Boeing 757-200, G-LSAA must have been rectified as she was back in service today working out of Manchester to Malaga.

david1994 20th Oct 2011 20:34

What aircraft are Jet2 using on Tel-Aviv-Dublin lather tonight. Think a 757 but could be a 738.
It currently enroute from Cork as LS6135 and is a B757-200 G-LSAB

Mr @ Spotty M 20th Oct 2011 21:04

The problem that the CAA spotted was fixed days ago.
It was the damage that the door caused that the CAA did not spot, is what caused the major problem.
Boeing would not allow a repair, casting had to be replaced and Boeing did not have one, finding one was the first major issue, which is all to common now with the B757. :ugh:

Papa2Charlie 21st Oct 2011 00:40

Thanks for the feedback folks.

LBIA 21st Oct 2011 15:20

Boeing 757-200, G-LSAE which has been sat over on the Multiflight apron at LBA is going out on a test flight this afternoon operating a EXS031E.

It will be the first time the aircraft has flown since been repaired by Boeing after suffering damage on September 6th when the wheel chair lifter hit her.

ciampino 22nd Oct 2011 10:33

So much rubbish posted by so called experts get your facts right before making silly comments G-LSAE was repaired by Jet2 Engineers not Boeing G-LSAA door frame damage was incorrectly diagnosed by the monarch engineers telling everybody Boeing would have to come up with a repair. Jet2 engineers took over repaired iaw SRM

757 Speedbrakes 22nd Oct 2011 13:50

So G-LSAA door not spotted by CAA inspector then....... ? :hmm:

AIRPORT66 22nd Oct 2011 16:37

Have jet2 given reason why they axed there flights from BFS to Toulouse, Leeds/Bradford.

Mr @ Spotty M 22nd Oct 2011 17:03

Pray, where is your expertise from ciampino?
How can door frame damage, be incorrectly diagnosed?
It is damaged or it is not damaged, it is as simple as that.
If my memory is correct, any damage within a certain distance of a door opening, has to be reported to Boeing and they will come up with the repair.
I will stick with my previous comments, as l have talked to the AOG engineer from MAEL who was called out to fix the defect spotted by the CAA. Also previously stated l do not know if the repair was finished by Jet2 or MAEL engineers.

ciampino 22nd Oct 2011 17:19

Your memory is not serving you well you only have to speak to Boeing when the repair is outside the Structural Repair Manual as this repair was within the SRM no need to contact Boeing

ciampino 22nd Oct 2011 17:30

You need to get a more reliable source of course it was the wrong diagnosis. If the repairs in the SRM you repair it IAW the SRM you do not go to Boeing, that is what the SRM is there fore to carry out structural repairs do you think Boeing want to be contacted every time you have damage to an aircraft

Mr @ Spotty M 23rd Oct 2011 11:41

I have this morning read the SR sent to Boeing by MAEL, this concerning the damage to the door frame by the door being out of rig.
MAEL sent photographs of the damage and copies of the SRM of the area damaged.
MAEL suggested repairs, but Boeing said that because of lack of fastener rows available, it turned down the repair and stated replacement of some structure.
So if you are correct in that the repair was incorrectly diagnosed and was in the SRM, both MAEL & Boeing screwed up.
If this is the case, l can only say sorry as an employee. :{

Topspotter 23rd Oct 2011 12:02

Im sure no one screwed up by all accounts jet 2 were very pleased by the response from monarch, according to my pal who is a jet 2 employee monarch really got them out of the poo

ciampino 23rd Oct 2011 14:06

yes Jet2 may have been grateful for there assistance just cost them 2 days loss of flying well done monarch engineers you really got Jet2 out of the Poo again. Well topspotter and mr spotty your beloved monarch engineers are not that brilliant the way you two make out at the expense of Jet2 engineers reputations. Get your facts correct next time

JSCL 23rd Oct 2011 14:31

As a complete outsider to all this, seems if Jet2 had to send it to Monarch, not much can be said for Jet2 engineering... Can it ciampino?

ciampino 23rd Oct 2011 15:41

Correct JSCL you are a complete outsider who has none of the facts and yet again we have another know-all climbing on the bandwagon. As I have said before get all of the facts first and then post a response that dose not ridicule other engineers.

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