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Facelookbovvered 1st May 2015 15:17

Is there any truth in the rumour that Jet2 have artificially restricted the maximum operating flight levels of their 737-300 & 737-800 fleets? if so why?

The figure quoted to me was either 380/390 for the NG & 350/360 for the CL i do of course realise that most of Jet2's aircraft will seldom go above that any way with a typical load factor.

Leeds Spotter 1st May 2015 16:38

LNIDA: I am one who books at least a year in advance. failure to would mean we would not be able to book the hotel of our choice, unless we do it a year in advance.
I have had to guess the dates we are going for May 2016 as we had to book the rooms last month to guarantee our dates.
Over the last five years, we have had one major change and that was a complete drop of the flight last year. Jet2 would only allow us to change our flight out on a later date. We accepted a total cancel, went out 48 hours earlier and pocketed 150 for the change, enough to pay for another two nights in the hotel, a win win event.
I do it with a zero rated purchase with my credit card, which I dont have to pay off until we return in May 2016

B757_200 1st May 2015 19:11

Hi all I'm new here, been a lurker for a while though!

I'll be flying with Jet2 Holidays in 5 weeks to Fuerteventura from Manchester, I think it'll be a 757 as when I was selecting my seats the plane diagram had 42 rows, would that be a 757-200? Hope so as I love the 757!

Slightly concerning the age of the fleet but I expect they are well maintained as they wouldn't be allowed to fly otherwise! Will the Jet2 fleet of 757's have been through a heavy maintenance check as they've been on the fleet for some years now, perhaps they did it when they went in for the interior refit/upgrade etc?

Hope this is in the right section! :hmm:

LNIDA 1st May 2015 22:30

Leeds Spotter
 
I assume you are booking flight only?, how much notice of change of flight times did you get? from what you say you were still able to get the hotel of your choice anyway which is great.

All airline change schedules from time to time, I have just had a change of departure time from JFK for a flight in a few months time, it only 90 minutes later on a red eye so no big deal, but with the best will in the world putting flights on sale out to September 2016 in April 2015 is a leap in the dark.I would dearly love to be able to make plans and book flights a little further ahead than my min two weeks/max 6 week roster allows.

muggins 2nd May 2015 08:12

LNIDA

as you say all airlines change schedules. Jet2s passenger operations serve the holiday market, and reading sites such as Tripadvisor I see people regularly booking holidays 12 to 18 months ahead, either for special occasions or budgeting reasons. Also as Leeds Spotter says accommodation fills up at some times of year

My schedule change story with Jet2 last year involves 2 returns, flight only, from GLA to LPA.

The trip in October the return flight was moved back by 10 minutes, hardly worth telling me about I thought.

The trip at Christmas was another matter. Booked at the beginning of May with Saturday flights out and back. Email received 9 July informing of a 24 hour change of times of both flights so that travel was on Sunday. In fact all flights from GLA to LPA from Nov 8 were changed to Sundays. Luckily my accommodation had space to let me modify my booking and change at no cost, parking was another matter.

I'd certainly fly with Jet2 again. Friendly cabin crew and no delays. Don't know about others but I find the new style no recline seats on a 738 more comfortable and give me more leg room than the old style seating on charter 752s.

Jet2_738 2nd May 2015 13:06


I'd certainly fly with Jet2 again. Friendly cabin crew and no delays. Don't know about others but I find the new style no recline seats on a 738 more comfortable and give me more leg room than the old style seating on charter 752s.
Me too. I arrived 30 mins early on my last Jet2 flight, and the new style no recline seats are very comfortable, and certainly give a lot more leg room (even for someone 6ft+). We can now travel worry-free, safe in the knowledge that a careless person in front isn't going to lean back onto us, and spill our drinks all over :ok:

paully 2nd May 2015 13:24

Indeed...but looking at their flight only prices for 2016, one would have to dig deep in order to travel with them :ooh:

mockingjay 2nd May 2015 15:30

Fear not, easyJet and Ryanair haven't had reclining seats for many years and Monoarch now have non reclining seats.

Jet2_738 2nd May 2015 17:50

I see ALC based air-spare G-CELS operated today's LS876 (EXS876A) from FAO to MAN. G-LSAC operated the outbound flight, but has only just left FAO bound for LBA as EXS046A. This is because G-LSAC had gone tech down in FAO. Pax were put on the air-spare, and arrived 1hr 45 mins late, thus as opposed to what would have been a delay of nearly 6 hours! G-CELS is now en route back to ALC as EXS047A.

Jet2's Spanish base strategy seems to have worked well today, just as we begin to go into the summer season. :ok:

Facelookbovvered 2nd May 2015 19:57

Jet2_738
 
The fact that Jet2 go to the trouble of having a back up aircraft and crews on standby all day in ALC speaks volumes about the company and also the age and fleet reliability........:eek::eek:

Station_Calling 2nd May 2015 20:27

Monarch reclining seats...
 
Mockingjay...

Monoarch now have non reclining seats.
The Monarch A321 I've just flown to TFS and back on certainly did have reclining seats, and it didn't have p**m me off when they did it without warning, nearly sending the contents of my tray table over me.

For the small amount these seats recline, I'd just get rid of them.

SC.

tattbenj 3rd May 2015 13:15

Facelookbovvered
 
What exactly does it say about the company? Perhaps it says that they care about their customers and let's face it, they're the most important people and a 2 hour delay will look much better on the airline than a 6 hour one. And with regards to reliability every airline has technical problems with aircraft! Virgin, Thomas Cook the lot, it doesn't say anything about the airline or the age of their aircraft

nonfrequentflyer_NCL 3rd May 2015 15:48

facelookbovvered
 
So you'd advocate J2 having passengers wait over 4 hours or so while a new crew could be assembled or maybe that J2 shouldn't have back-up aircraft available should one have a mechanical (not to mention that all other airlines have mechanical mishaps now and then)?

Odd way of thinking.

EK77WNCL 3rd May 2015 16:09

I completely understand your reasoning behind slagging off Jet2 and the way they run their very successful, profitable and prosperous airline, I mean, remember last year when there were all those delays, cancellations and emergencies with airlines flying clapped out 30 year old dreamliners... Oh, hang on...

Sean Dillon 3rd May 2015 17:13


their very successful, profitable and prosperous airline,
oh bless...you're only 16! Its a business with a "business plan" that got it started...and no future...without further investment that is!

Good luck to you all...you'll be all very pleased to know, especially Lord Spandex 'Turbo-Prop' Masher i've already left and joined BA...

buzz boy 3rd May 2015 17:42

Oh that's just terrific! Sean Dillon here at BA now :ugh:

snowman 1 3rd May 2015 17:45

jet2
 
sd
thank god for that
sm1

nonfrequentflyer_NCL 3rd May 2015 17:56

SD being condescending there to a 16 year old. Nice fella.

Jet2_738 3rd May 2015 19:03

Finally :D:D:D:D:D

Sean has left for BA!! (I mean, BA have got hat sick of him constantly applying) No more moans and groans??.... oh no - there's a whole pile of his dirty washing left to aire.... At least that's one less 'unhappy where he is' pilot gone. Sean, you've left in good time - maybe it wasn't to be long before someone high up would see behind that virtual plastic facade, and discover who you really are.

I'd just like to say that nonfrequentflyer_NCL's past two posts have been spot on! :ok: Jet2 are an airline that like to please its passengers. From a passengers perspective, 1hr 45mins delay is nothing compared to a 6 hour one. As a passenger, I'd like to know that an airline does all it can to get me home. It could, and certainly can happen to anyone, irrespective of whether their fleet is months or years old. It just means Jet2 are better equipped to handle a problem like that - and that they've got a strategy in place to prevent delays.

Jet2 like to please their passengers - just look what happened when BLK closed - LS re-scheduled everything, going to the length, so much as to pay for customers' parking at MAN, and bus people there and back for months. Look at the ash cloud crisis - LS sent buses all the way from Leeds to the bottom of Spain to get people home. What other airline did that??? :=

Rob Courtney 3rd May 2015 19:08

Was flying Thomas Cook a few years ago when the newish Bus went tech at Cardiff, who bailed them out Jet2 with a 20+yr old 737-300 :D

SWBKCB 3rd May 2015 19:21


Jet2 like to please their passengers
and nothing to do with reducing compensation payments... :ok:

Station_Calling 3rd May 2015 19:37

SWBKCB...
 

and nothing to do with reducing compensation payments...
Don't think EU261 was on the cards when the ash cloud hit. But I do know that Jet2 did way more than any other airline to get people home, including many FD & CC giving up leave / days off to fly as much as possible to get people home once the ban was lifted.

But people never remember the good points, only the bad...

SWBKCB 3rd May 2015 19:58

Do you really think there would be a standby A/C based in ALC without EU261? Don't remember there being one before.


But people never remember the good points, only the bad...
Fair point, but on this thread I think its heading the other way - bit of balance won't do it any harm.

nonfrequentflyer_NCL 3rd May 2015 20:03


Fair point, but on this thread I think its heading the other way - bit of balance won't do it any harm.
For the sake of argument I'd say all airlines probably have good and bad, yeah?

And Jet2_738 - many thanks for the praise. Just an observer who's fascinated with flight but ruddy terrified of the b*gger at the same time :ok:

mockingjay 3rd May 2015 20:17

The ALC aircraft would not be there if it weren't for EU261. Airlines do not do things unless they make or save money. This setup is for reducing compensation claims.

They've obviously done their sums and have concluded that ALC saves them money. But then again it isn't much different to other locos who have planes and crews on airport standby ready to perform rescue flights lets not kid ourselves that they're doing this to be customer service champions.

The ash cloud was over five years ago. People will have well forgotten and five years is a long time in this industry. They did it then, who's to say they would handle it the same way now?

As mentioned all airlines have good and bad, but reading this thread LS would seem to be the exception. They can only do good seemingly.

TartinTon 3rd May 2015 20:55


Jet2 like to please their passengers - just look what happened when BLK closed - LS re-scheduled everything, going to the length, so much as to pay for customers' parking at MAN, and bus people there and back for months. Look at the ash cloud crisis - LS sent buses all the way from Leeds to the bottom of Spain to get people home. What other airline did that???
Monarch Airlines did as well. They also flew passengers from the Canaries and Balaerics to the mainland and coached them back from there too.

Lord Spandex Masher 3rd May 2015 21:39


Originally Posted by Sean Dillon (Post 8963947)
Good luck to you all...you'll be all very pleased to know, especially Lord Spandex 'Turbo-Prop' Masher i've already left and joined BA...

Not sure what your turbo prop reference is to but....of course you have. :D

EK77WNCL 3rd May 2015 22:32

Happily given Jet2 our money to fly NCL-AGP-NCL in July/August, out on a "new" 738, coming back on a 733. I'll let you all know how it is, I'm confident they'll be absolutely fine as usual

DjerbaDevil 3rd May 2015 23:15


The ALC aircraft would not be there if it weren't for EU261.
It doesn’t make sense to base two B733s at ALC to cover for aircraft with mechanical problems. The B733 can only carry 149 passengers and JET2 have the B738 with 189 passengers and the B752 with 235 passengers. It should be remembered that the B752s were re-allocated to LBA and MAN, so that they could be used to cover for delays etc., due to possible claims under EU261.

In the case of the Faro incident, G-LSAC is a B752 with a carrying capacity of 235 passengers and G-CELS that went to the rescue can only accommodate 149 passengers. Obviously in this particular case JET2 hit lucky and the flight back from Faro most probably only had 149 passengers or less. In any event the ALC based B733s are normally quite busy flying passengers to and from the JET2 UK bases.

For AENA, the Spanish airports’ authority, the fact that a UK airline has chosen ALC as a base must carry a certain amount of prestige and perhaps that in turn gives JET2 certain privileges. There is no evidence that this is the case but this arrangement is much more likely than using ALC as a base to send a B733 to rescue a full plane load from a B752 or a B738.

Sean Dillon: Congratulations! Though it does sound too good to be true. In any case please keep us updated on the BA Direct Entry Pilot forum under Terms and Endearment, doubtless your experiences at BA will be more appreciated there.

EK77WNCL 3rd May 2015 23:41

How do the bases look for Jet2 for summer 2015? Someone posted them all a while back I think but I can't find them.

I know Newcastle is 3 733, 3 738 but I'm oblivious as to the rest...

BFS BHD 3rd May 2015 23:45

BFS is 3x B733 & 1x B733F.

DjerbaDevil 4th May 2015 07:35

GLA is 6 x B738s + 1 x A320 leased from Titan for the summer.

deltahotel9 4th May 2015 08:16

NCL seems to be 4x733 and 2x738 at the moment, could change later in the season of course.

BasilFawlty 4th May 2015 11:56

As far as I know:

ALC: 2x 733
BFS: 3x 733 1x 73F
EMA: 3x 733 3x 738
EDI: 4x 733
GLA: 5x 738 1x 320
LBA: 7x 733 (2 spare) 2x 738 5x 752 (1 spare)
MAN: 6x 733 (1 spare) 3x 738 7x 752 (1 spare + 1 leased from Privilege)
NCL: 3x 733 3x 738


Please correct me if I'm wrong.

DjerbaDevil 4th May 2015 13:30


Please correct me if I'm wrong.
You have allocated 58 aircraft above including 1 x Titan A320 and 1 x Privilege B752. The JET2 fleet stands at a total of 58 airframes at the moment and 60 if you include the Titan and Privilege aircraft. G-JZHD, the new B738 is still to be allocated a base perhaps, which would account for one, so there would appear to be one aircraft that has not been allocated to a base from your list. Perhaps GLA is 6 x B738 + 1 x A320 but maybe you know better.

EK77WNCL 4th May 2015 15:03

NCL's new routes to Malta, Antalya etc. And a few frequency/aircraft upgrades are coming at the end of May which I think sees a 733 swapped for a 738 if I'm not mistaken

Edit: Thank you very much for your help! :)

nonfrequentflyer_NCL 4th May 2015 15:26

EK77WNCL - be interesting to see if the 738 is used for the Pisa route or stick with the 733's.

EK77WNCL 4th May 2015 15:49

I mentioned in the NCL thread I'd like to see some growth on the city routes (Krakow, Prague, Pisa, Rome etc.) and using the 738's would be a great start, alas they all appear to be 733's this year still

GLAinsider 4th May 2015 17:46

Interesting to see EXS cooperating with other tour operators (than Jet2holidays). Certainly helps to support routes which would otherwise, quite probably, be uneconomical.

LEEDS APPROACH 5th May 2015 10:40

LBA flights Summer 16
 
Should be loaded from today.


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