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righthandrule 22nd Jul 2012 14:01


Jet2 won't be getting rid of the 800's at man or gla. Why would they when they have been so successful at each base? As for Leeds they have no call for the 800 so they won't be getting them any time soon I'm afraid!!
757 fleet is to shrink next year and the -800 fleet is to grow. Leeds is getting a couple of 800's :ok:

Johnny [email protected] Pants 22nd Jul 2012 15:39

For the Jet2.com schedule you need to go to the Jet2.com website and look up the timetable, simple really:ugh:

Lsflyer 22nd Jul 2012 17:21

Rightandrule which flights will the 800s be operating at Leeds as I can't seem to find it on the schedule? Also has anyone heard rumours of a new base recently? Apparently it's being announced soon!

ematom1 22nd Jul 2012 17:22

Jet 2 currently are flying a Euro Atlantic 767-300, out of East midlands airport, anyone know how long the aircraft is to be leased for and fly from the base until the it goes back?

EZY7117LPL 22nd Jul 2012 18:31

"Also has anyone heard rumours of a new base recently? Apparently it's being announced soon!"

I havent heard anything about a new base except for Liverpool which was supposed to be announced on friday 20th july but they have delayed the announcement for the meantime due to a lack of aircraft so I would think that any other new base is unlikely for this reason, however they will definetly be starting operations from Liverpool but not just yet due to aircraft shortages, they will probably make an announcement next year.

mikkie4 22nd Jul 2012 22:06

(this morning) jet2 new 757 dept sen to norwich for a paint job,still in aerogal colours

LBIA 22nd Jul 2012 23:33

LSflyer you'll notice the B738's been introduced to the LBA summer 2013 scheduled over next few days when the schedules are updated. As extra flights are to be added.
Mahon will increase from 3 weekly to 4 weekly, Crete will be increased from 2 weekly to 3x weekly. Also on peak days next summer Alicante, Malaga and Palma routes will be increased to operate upto 3 daily.

Another new route will also be announced from LBA in next few days.

righthandrule 23rd Jul 2012 03:15

The 800's haven't been loaded into the booking system yet as the LBA summer 13 programme is about to have several changes made. The 800's will be on a mix of FAO/AGP/ALC/PMI as well as HER/DLM/TFS etc. hopefully the booking engine will be updates over the next few days.

As for the new base.... *cough* Liverpool *cough*

EZY7117LPL 23rd Jul 2012 10:50

"As for the new base.... *cough* Liverpool *cough*"

Unless Jet2 have changed their mind ie. found some aircraft then Liverpool won't be announced soon, however they will be starting ops from Liverpool at some point.

Do you know something I dont?

EZY7117LPL 25th Jul 2012 10:29

Well, any news on Liverpool?

Lsflyer 25th Jul 2012 10:34

Where has Liverpool base come from? isnt it just a rumour? i just dont see how that would that be feasible when easyjet and ryanair have such a big base there!

cu nim 25th Jul 2012 10:53

Not just a rumour was to be anounced last week but probs with unservisable units caused a delay .
When the 800s come on stream then it will be opened:ok:

FlyboyUK 25th Jul 2012 11:17

And what about BHX? Surely that must be a potential new base with Baby finishing soon.

Cleared For A Coffee 25th Jul 2012 11:41

And when are the 800s due? How many aircraft?

LBIA 25th Jul 2012 12:44

I hear that they could be up to 8x more Boeing 737-800's joining the Jet2 fleet over the next 6 to 18 months.

For starters 2x aircraft will replace the leased Boeing 757-200 which are returning to US airline Allegiant Air at the end of the summer season.
It looks 2x are now destined for the Leeds base next summer while I suspect another will replace the Manchester based leased Strategic, Airbus A320.

As to what or where the other aircraft go is anyone's guess.

pug 25th Jul 2012 15:52


Not just a rumour was to be anounced last week but probs with unservisable units caused a delay .
I dont see how problems with u/s aircraft would delay the announcement of a new base?

I dont see why they would go to the cost of agreeing advertising, ground handling and fees only to pull away at the last minute. Either the announcement isnt due for some time yet (arent Jet2 bases usually announced Aug/Sep?), or there are other issues that caused them to pull away. Could be wrong.

EZY7117LPL 26th Jul 2012 10:31

What I think has happened here is that Jet2 are to start services but the announcement wasn't due to be made this soon and people are just speculating as to why it didn't happen. As someone else said, most of jet2's bases are announced in Aug/Sept so (hopefully) I would think that they will announce something then.

Plus 737-800's - 6-18 months??? Thats a big gap do you mean 6-8 months?

munrobagger 26th Jul 2012 13:29

Does anyone know why Rhodes / Glasgow yesterday diverted to Venice where passengers were put up in hotels ?

aces low 26th Jul 2012 15:04

Screeeech
 
A 737-800 with a full load of passengers on a wet runway will struggle to stop before the end of the runway. For that reason, I doubt whether the 738 will be used out of LBA unless the loads are light...then what's the point?

CabinCrewe 26th Jul 2012 15:28

It was an operational divert due to an crewing issue (sickness).

EZY7117LPL 26th Jul 2012 15:52

"A 737-800 with a full load of passengers on a wet runway will struggle to stop before the end of the runway. For that reason, I doubt whether the 738 will be used out of LBA unless the loads are light...then what's the point? "

Maybe they'll use them at Liverpool!!:p

LBIA 26th Jul 2012 16:12

"A 737-800 with a full load of passengers on a wet runway will struggle to stop before the end of the runway. For that reason, I doubt whether the 738 will be used out of LBA unless the loads are light...then what's the point? "


Well you better tell Jet2 that!

Now if you check the Jet2 website you'll see that the some of the Boeing 737-800 flights from LBA have been loaded into the system and are now on sale for next summer on routes to ALC, AGP, DLM, HER, MAH and LPA to name but a few.

Air Europa, Ryanair & Thomson have all operated Boeing 737-800's out of LBA without major problems as well.

Ivan aromer 26th Jul 2012 16:44

738 LBA
 
Something to do with steel versus carbon brakes perhaps.

OliWW 26th Jul 2012 16:53

So how did a full 763 stop in the rain last year on its return from Palma?

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 17:01


Air Europa, Ryanair & Thomson have all operated Boeing 737-800's out of LBA without major problems as well.
FR managed very well at BLK also with their 737-800, and BLK has not got a long runway .

aces low 26th Jul 2012 18:47

Mr Boeing reckons that a 737-800 with a landing mass of 60 tonnes will stop in 5000' on a wet runway (autobrake 3). This assumes touching down at the touchdown point (on the sloping away runway32 at LBA?) I seem to recall LBA being about 7300 feet long. So when you add safety factors in for dispatch, it is getting limiting to LAND a heavy aircraft on a wet runway.

I have been told that other operators either have the short-field landing kit or fly 'less than full'...neither of which I can verify.

North West 26th Jul 2012 18:57

I thought Ryanair had a base in Leeds? They only operate the 800

rudolf 26th Jul 2012 19:06

The short field pack would be ideal for LBA, however, it was only an option from about 2005 so probably too shiny for Jet2. It reduces vRef and consequently landing distance, energy related to the square of the speed and all that. The other option is carbon brakes which makes a difference. The standard -800 has similar brakes to the -300 and is significantly heavier with much higher approach speed. As has been previously stated the issues really only relate to landing at Leeds on a wet runway, dry is generally ok unless the crosswinds are up and the aircraft has winglets. I'm not sure if any of FR's aircraft have the SFP.

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 19:09

BLK has a main runway of 1869m - Which falls short of the 7300 feet long that LBA has.

I am sure that when FR was at BLK, they managed with a full, or nearly full 737-800 and I think it was a winter destination also.

I may get corrected on this, but almost sure the a/c was full, or getting there.

Lsflyer 26th Jul 2012 22:28

Does anyone know when GLSAN is due out of paint and where it will be based? isnt it long overdue now?

mikkie4 26th Jul 2012 22:41

jet2
 
why are jet2 reluctent to either fly or base any aircraft down south.they dont wont to use ltn/stn/sen on a regular bases,only the occational flight

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 22:52

They started at Leeds and have gone Scotland and now as far South as East Midlands ...I expect as more a/c are available, Jet2 will creep down South.

jubilee 27th Jul 2012 06:47

Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

No doubt when they obtain more aircraft, they may possible move south.
J

tonker 27th Jul 2012 08:16

Exeter:ok:

Ernest Lanc's 27th Jul 2012 11:07


Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

Thank's for that Jubilee...I have edited.

Chille Con Carnie 27th Jul 2012 20:07

G-lsan
 
G-LSAN due out of paint mid week?

Fairdealfrank 27th Jul 2012 21:58

Quote: "Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

No doubt when they obtain more aircraft, they may possible move south.
J
"

Would be good to see these guys in the south!

Maybe Northolt one day...or is that a flock of pigs flying past?

2Planks 28th Jul 2012 10:07

A flock of pigs off a very short runway - can't see fully loaded 73s departing NHT

OltonPete 28th Jul 2012 10:43

Northolt
 
Boeing 707-321, N725PA, Pan American World Airways (PA / PAA)

If a 707 can do this...................;)

drifting way off thread but an amazing incident to say the least.

Pete

EZY7117LPL 28th Jul 2012 16:34

If there is anyone who can shed any light on a Liverpool operation please do so. Feel free to PM me if you dont want to make the info public.


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