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Sean Dillon 28th Apr 2015 22:26

Not going to even comment on the thoughts of spotters/passengers on a pilots website quite frankly!

But as the odd other poster bringing to the fore, in between the head-in-sand clowns/Meeson Cool Aid Drinkers, confirm what the reality of life at Jet2 is and that nothing will ever evolve due to the pathetic and childish culture of people thinking its a great success.

There is a 'brick wall' coming, someone will need to actually wake up! I did like the 'GROW UP' comment...something Jet2 has a lot to do!

I see Thomson have announced recruitment again in September - it just continues...

Lord Spandex Masher 28th Apr 2015 22:40

Soooooo, you didn't get into BA then.

Jet2_738 28th Apr 2015 22:48


I see Thomson have announced recruitment again in September - it just continues...
It continues, just like your persistent 'I hate my Job' rambling. As many have said, and what I can only echo, maybe it's time to leave LS and search elsewhere. Maybe you might jump at the recruitment opportunity, and go ahead and move over to TOM - if you manage to leave LS first... :ugh:

endofeng 29th Apr 2015 07:04


Originally Posted by Sean Dillon (Post 8959307)
Not going to even comment on the thoughts of spotters/passengers on a pilots website quite frankly!

Which is exactly the reason to why you should be exercising decorum/professionalism and acting your age and not your shoe size (UK shoe size!)....

Incidently your comments are also damaging for potential joiners. Do you really believe that all the pilots (over 400 now) are unhappy??

I find your comments unfounded and bias. Get yourself talking to other pilots at J2, you may find that most are actually quite happy operating from a base close to their families working hard in the Summer and not so in the Winter - for not a too shabby wage too......Oh, and try to speak to the happy pilots you see in the crew room as well (not just your stepping stone negative mates!!), you know the type, the ones that actually enjoy their jobs and come to work happy!!

So I hear you say 'wake up'.......well, I removed my rose tinted glasses many years ago in a previous airline, and as such, believe you me, J2 isn't that bad!

Every company has its problems, including the company you will eventually leave for, but for the majority we are happy.....

I'm not entering into sh*t fight with you SD, as it is clear you are desperately unhappy at J2....I don't want to add to your unhappiness. But....please accept that J2 is and will be a good choice of company to work for for many pilots. It won't work for some, much the same as long haul from a London airport wouldn't work for me, but rest assured it is the preferred for the vast majority!

Please take your negativity elsewhere - preferably your next company - good riddance Sean Dillon!

mockingjay 29th Apr 2015 07:32

Well, my experience with airlines is that they all have megalomaniacs running the show, you're micromanaged, you work you ass off to save a few pounds on flap three landings, single engine taxi etc whilst millions are squandered on pointless rubbish (you know things like celebrity voices on your TV ads, buying a thousand expensive tea pots that aren't usable onboard etc) everything is cut to the bone, you'rmroster is 'optimised' to within an inch of your life and the good old days are well and truly over and that doesn't matter if you're blue, orange, red or blue & yellow.

You need to sit and think about what each offers you and whether that is worth the lifestyle hit, the pay hit or a combination of the two. No airline is going to be perfect.

Every airline has a few vocal people who will shoot their company down but you also have the type that will vehemently defend their company despite facts clearly proving that things aren't that rosy, and LS seems to be exactly the same which is perfectly clear from this thread. I've never quite seen such militant defence of LS and anyone who dare question it are shot down in flames and I must commend Sean Dillon for sticking with what he feels and not letting the troops shoot him down. However as with my airline the extremely unhappy people and the company drones are fairly few and far between and a majority are happy and I would imagine LS is no different.

I just come to work, keep it friendly and SOP and go home. I dont get involved in the politics.

paully 29th Apr 2015 08:46

So Dillon you think the peeps down the back paying high ticket prices to keep you in a job (you obviously don`t deserve) are contemptible and are not allowed any opinion...Ever heard the expression `He who pays the piper`??

Through these threads many of us learn how your lives are led, the technical hurdles you have to jump through and yes, admire the single minded determination and cost it takes to get onto the flightdeck. The constant worry of health issues and many more. We feel reassured by the professionalism you possess and the patience shown when we ask daft questions, and we do..The vast majority of your colleagues accept that this forum is a two way street and we treat each other with respect.Unfortunately there is always the rude condescending :mad: that most of us hope we never have to fly with..

Finally I hope PM never finds out your real name or you might be looking for a new job sooner than you think

DjerbaDevil 29th Apr 2015 14:09

Looks like we now have a Sean Dillon thread instead of a JET2.

Nevertheless Sean Dillon should be encouraged to spill out his apocalyptic generalisations about JET2 here in PPRuNe , so that his company in the cockpit may be at an acceptable level. If he didnít have anywhere to vent his pent up feelings of everything JET2, then who knows what would give. The Mods recently eliminated one of Seanís posts but maybe it would be better to allow his posts, however extreme, and at the same time maybe he will be encouraged to be more specific about his ominous general complaints, so that we can be better informed of his reasoning.

TOM are indeed hiring but only part time and with 7k training fee for TRíd pilots. BA are also hiring but SH pilots are not happy with the new life styles, so it is reported that some are leaving or looking to leave. In view of the foregoing, is JET2 really that bad in comparison?

Could it be that those that complain from within the company have tried employment elsewhere and failed or havenít realised their optimum career expectations? The better way to look at life is the saying, ďif you have a problem, solve it and if you cannot solve it, then you donít have a problem.Ē

One thing is certain and that is that Sean Dillon encourages JET2 to flourish, as the share price has risen to double its value in the last year to almost 400p.

Leeds Spotter 29th Apr 2015 14:48

I used to own a business employing over a thousand people. I know that most member of staff thought my decisions were wrong and that the company would collapse tomorrow.
It survivied 40 years until I sold, when PM sells his shares so will I.
Can we not restore this forum to discussing the direction of travel of the company and its aims and expectations and whether they will happen.
In any forum you need balance, Sean puts one side of the story, we only have city briefing sheets as the other side, I am not allowed to put them up on this forum unfortunately.
Can we discuss things that everyone can take part in...........please

Bearpit 29th Apr 2015 19:35

S16- on sale!
 
Well, how about looking positively for a change. Looks like summer 16 flights are going on sale. Newcastle has more flights to Greece from a quick glance. Good to see Jet2 continuing to grow. Presume more to come! :D

garry8g 29th Apr 2015 21:00

Jet2 - Glasgow Summer 16 release
 
Murcia seems to have been dropped from the Glasgow itinerary for summer 2016.

Wonder if some new routes are on the cards?

And any further expansion of aircraft?

BFS BHD 29th Apr 2015 21:26

New route to Fuerteventura from Belfast International Airport for Jet2 in S16!

DjerbaDevil 29th Apr 2015 21:52


Murcia seems to have been dropped from the Glasgow itinerary for summer 2016.
This could be due to the possible closing of MJV and the opening of Corbera airport a few miles up the road. Time will tell but there are difficulties, as the Murcia airport staff don't want to move and the EU are considering whether a loan from the regional Government to the owners of Corbera airport is legal.

pug 29th Apr 2015 23:08

Or the significant growth of a current base where routes are currently thin on the ground...

LNIDA 30th Apr 2015 16:52

garry8g
 
You'd have to be bonkers to book with any airline that far out. If its DIY you need to avoid booking any accommodation/car hire/airport car parking based on the current flight times, if its Jet2Holidays then any changes will be sorted out by them, but letting any airline sit on your dosh for 12-18months can't be clever even with todays very low RoR on savings

Before Jet2_738 starts bleating 'any airline'

Jet2_738 30th Apr 2015 17:34

Jet2 Charters - G-POWM
 
On another note, Chartered A320, G-POWM has just been positioned as EXS061J from STN up to GLA. So it would seem that LS do not intend to cancel any lease, even with the addition of G-JZHD, unless the Privilege Style 757-200 is cancelled, which of course is unlikely. :ok:

Jet2holidays tend not to change flight times, as they aren't a charter airline like that of TOM, or TCX. That said, in that time, the aircraft config could have changed, so like LNIDA says, it wouldn't be advisable booking seats or airport car parking just yet. Anyone looking to book holidays should hold off a little - the release price tends to be higher than of that shortly afterwards. :ok:

mockingjay 30th Apr 2015 18:06

Funny that, in post 2149 you were saying that they are just like TOM/TCX. So they aren't a low cost airline and now they aren't like a charter airline. Jet2 really have found a niche!

Jet2_738 30th Apr 2015 18:13


Funny that, in post 2149 you were saying that they are just like TOM/TCX. So they aren't a low cost airline and now they aren't like a charter airline. Jet2 really have found a niche!

charter airline like that of TOM, or TCX.
What I meant was they aren't a charter airline (like TOM and TCX who are). They are in various aspects very similar to that of TCX and TOM - but as I said, they aren't a charter airline. :ugh:

kieb92 1st May 2015 09:21

G-POWM Jet2/Titan Hybrid:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/16705479123

ATNotts 1st May 2015 11:03

Jet2_738

I would say that apart from a few city break routes the overwhelming majority of Jet2's business is bucket and spade to the Med., and the flight operated mainly for the benefit of it's group company Jet2 Holidays - which is why some aircraft are liveried as such.

it would be interesting to compare the split between package and independent travelers booking on Jet2 bucket and spade routes, and compare the ratios with those of TCX / TOM. I reckon there wouldn't be a lot of difference.

Difference between Jet2 and the others is that Jet2 spawned the tour operator, whereas with the other two, tour operators spawned the airline.

Please don't kid yourselves that Jet2 won't change flight timings between now and Summer 2016. Slot allocations at the more congested airports haven't even started yet for S2016, and you can be sure that if a destination isn't selling as expected then consolidations and cancellations will take place - whether they are called that is another matter.

garry8g 1st May 2015 14:28

LNIDA

I wasn't planning on booking any flights yet, it was just an observation with some questions.


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