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mikkie4 27th Jul 2017 18:32

EZY advertising for full time A319/20 cabin crew to be based at SOUTHEND for 2018,so looks like we are getting our 4th aircraft, Might have something to do with the expantion of LS at STN

01475 27th Jul 2017 19:10

Wrong thread! Though also, won't EZY be looking for cabin crew for almost everywhere almost every year? The staff turnover must be horrific?

FRatSTN 27th Jul 2017 20:11

TUI/Thomson Summer 2018
 
Looks like Bulgaria is a new destination for Summer 2018 and Antalya is set to continue now with a Friday departure.

Good news though still 2x rotations down on S17 short-haul with also no signs of any long-haul for S18

pamann 27th Jul 2017 21:44

TUI/Thomson
 
Longhaul confirmed as cancelled after Summer 17 SFB/CUN/MBJ

pabely 27th Jul 2017 22:26

S18 Capacity
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but is STN not full as far as slot allocations in the busy AM period? Won't this limit any major basing of the likes of Jet 2 further?

canberra97 27th Jul 2017 22:35

Although it was confirmed a few months ago that long haul with TUI from Stansted was being cancelled for summer 2018 does anyone know the actual reason for this as I would have thought the demand was there. I know Thomas Cook offer similar long haul flights from Stansted but surely TUI would have been able to offer a bit of competition.

pamann 28th Jul 2017 00:08

Personally I think TUI/Thomson arrived on the longhaul scene at STN two years too late. Thomas Cook have got it to themselves now. Personally I see it as a growth area for Thomas Cook now.

southside bobby 28th Jul 2017 09:02

Pabely.....To part answer your query,Stansted is capacity controlled at present by previous planning consents both with ATM`s & pax numbers..MAG is on the road this month in 8 local communities with an exhibition to explain it`s intention & plans to apply in late Summer for planning permission for the lifting of all caps in terms of flight numbers to grow STN with the max use of the existing R/W...this equates to approx 44M pax per year....ie LGW....So hopefully room for more Jet2`s in the future..

AirportPlanner1 28th Jul 2017 10:01

southside, slot availability and movement caps are two very different things.

MAG could be successful in getting an overall cap raised, but that doesn't magically release some extra slots between 6-9am when there are none, or in the increasingly congested 9pm-midnight period. So pabely is right in that there can't be an explosion in based aircraft, although there is still plenty of availability before 6am and after midnight which would still suit the way Jet2 operate. Those sorts of slots have been widely used at LGW for some time. Even Ryanair now have some arrivals well after midnight, previously they've had nothing scheduled to arrive after 23:55.

commit aviation 28th Jul 2017 11:06

AirportPlanner1: "there is still plenty of availability before 6am and after midnight"

Technically there isn't. The government sets a limit on the number of night movements as well as a night noise quota at all 3 major London airports. LGW is at its limit & STN will be too this summer. Next year will see a revised series of rules which may see some changes but I won't get into details as I'm not really up to speed on these yet

southside bobby 28th Jul 2017 17:18

AirportPlanner1.....I agree to disagree.....The model you need in mind is LGW,with max permitted use of it`s R/W STN will be able to achieve the same sustained movement flow rate which is higher there...slot availability can be dictated by movement rates too surely..Anyways STN is effectively curfewed before 6am & also after 11pm for departures & midnight for arrivals,with any availability already allocated..Where else pray is an effective planned for doubling of pax traffic coming from without an explosion (your word) of based aircraft too...Again I would think LGW is your model...So yes there will be room for similar Jet2 ops in the future...

pabely 28th Jul 2017 22:49

Thanks for input guys, just as I thought, for now no big expansion but that could all change if MAG get their way.

FRatSTN 29th Jul 2017 08:19


Personally I think TUI/Thomson arrived on the longhaul scene at STN two years too late. Thomas Cook have got it to themselves now. Personally I see it as a growth area for Thomas Cook now.
Don't think it's so much that... MT only have a fairly short programme over the school summer holiday period. TOM were operating long-haul year round, to CUN at least anyway.

TOM's long-haul from STN is certainly not unpopular and fares are no lower than anyone else... I've no question over the profitability of STN long-haul for them. I think it's more a case it's impacted too much on their LGW operation which will always be the jewel in the crown for them.

whitelighter 29th Jul 2017 13:38

Stansted is never going to be a long haul Hub.
However I can't understabd why hugely over subscribed routes couldnt work.
Have you tried getting a seat to Las Vegas or Orlando recently?

I think the Tui pull out is more to do with rationalisation of the 6/7 airlines the group ran and acre-aligning of priorities.

01475 29th Jul 2017 22:54

Longhaul seems to attract a lot of discussion here.

Why do people feel the airport needs it? It's not going to be far from basically full with shorthaul, and in a few years time withdrawing the plans for a second runway will start to look to have been very silly!

Is that not enough?

LTNman 29th Jul 2017 23:18

All to do with prestige and little else plus it looks good on the flight information screens.

pamann 29th Jul 2017 23:20

I agree that I can't see it becoming a major longhaul hub, however two years ago I would have laughed at the thought of a holiday company basing 10 aircraft at STN.

If you told me 3 years ago that BA would have a network of routes from STN (even though it's City Flyer/Niche market) I'd also have laughed at your suggestion.

Stranger things have and do happen.

Rich3 31st Jul 2017 12:19

Jet 2 - Key summer 2018 programme information:

London Stansted

33 destinations including 8 new summer hotspots: Bodrum, Costa de Almeria, Halkidiki, Kefalonia and Verona (already announced) and Malta, Naples and Nice (announced today).
280 weekly flights and more than 1.4 million seats available, a 60% growth on Summer 17
Addition of three aircraft meaning ten aircraft operating from London Stansted Airport

SWBKCB 31st Jul 2017 16:15


Why do people feel the airport needs it? It's not going to be far from basically full with shorthaul, and in a few years time withdrawing the plans for a second runway will start to look to have been very silly!
Long haul a/c tend to be bigger, so more money per runway/gate slot?

southside bobby 31st Jul 2017 16:36

More good news...STN went thru the 25M pax in a rolling 12months on 27.7...MAG now expecting to 26.5M by the end of the financial year!...Impressive numbers & achievement.


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