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01475 2nd Jan 2016 21:09

Haven't most airports that have tried this ended up losing court cases brought by bus companies? Have STN found a way that works, or are they next in line for more bad publicity?

LTNman 2nd Jan 2016 22:07

Luton Airport lost a court case with Greenline when National Express won the tender. Now they both operate from the bus station.

http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/luto...avours-arriva/

jdcg 2nd Jan 2016 22:07

This is what happened to Greenline at LTN but they won their case and are back at the terminal

airhumberside 2nd Jan 2016 22:43

The difference between Luton and Stansted is that the tender was for more than one coach operator - IIRC National Express and ComfortDelGro (Stansted Citylink) were the winners at Stansted. I guess Stansted's argument would be that this ensures there is still competition between coach operators in the Stansted-Central London market

jdcg 2nd Jan 2016 23:36


Originally Posted by airhumberside (Post 9226522)
The difference between Luton and Stansted is that the tender was for more than one coach operator - IIRC National Express and ComfortDelGro (Stansted Citylink) were the winners at Stansted. I guess Stansted's argument would be that this ensures there is still competition between coach operators in the Stansted-Central London market

Must be hard for Terravision. They built a very strong market position and now they're chucked out. I never see anyone on the Citylink service though

davidjohnson6 3rd Jan 2016 04:12

So when should we expect coach fares to London to rise and by how much ? Will a single on the coach to London soon become an 'excellent value' 20 and a coach return an 'even better value' 30 ?

LTNman 3rd Jan 2016 05:19


The difference between Luton and Stansted is that the tender was for more than one coach operator
For what ever reason Easybus was still allowed to operate from the airport but I think they went to Baker Street and not Victoria.

pamann 6th Jan 2016 00:03

Thomas Cook - Summer 2016 - Mainland Spain Additions
 
Possibly replacements for NBE - Thomas Cook adds mainland Spain to it's Stansted summer network

Reus (Costa Dorada) & Almeria

29/05-06/06 & 24/7-04/09 STN-REU 0730/1030 REU-STN 1130/1240 MT7056/7

27/07-07/09 STN-LEI 0900/1240 LEI-STN 1340/1530 MT7482/3

Surprisingly the only charter services to any mainland Spanish airport ex Stansted. :ok:

Flightmech 16th Jan 2016 11:52

A new experience at STN yesterday to add to the collection.
Arrived on the mid-afternoon Germanwings from CGN. Parked on the Bravos (unusual as its normally the Alphas) Disembarked to find the transit train out of service (maybe the reason for parking on the Bravos). Ok, it happens so it was a bus to the terminal. However, did they drop you at the terminal? Did they f**k. We were dropped at the far end of the Ryanair satellite and had to walk in. Once in immigration the usual chaos with home made arrows printed on A4 paper, people confused as where to go and long lines. The place is a complete joke:ugh:

pamann 16th Jan 2016 16:19

Have to say you were either unlucky or I was very lucky in that instance. Having used Stansted a few times of recent during peak times I have to say the airport experience on arrival was good compared to previous times. I have had bad experiences of Gatwick's arrivals when I last used the place in the Summer.
I'd still rate Gatwick's arrival experience above that of STN. They could still learn a thing or two from London's second airport, but overall STN has improved considerably on the last two occasions I've used it and was pleasantly surprised. :ok:

AirportPlanner1 27th Jan 2016 12:50

Orlando
 
I recall this was questioned some time ago as there was apparent duplication in TCX operating times but it seems they really are operating 10 x weekly to Orlando this summer. It now appears to be a daily flight with a second on Mon, Fri and Sun. Fri and Sun flights operate half an hour apart, Monday has a 65 min gap. That is an extraordinary capacity increase, even if it is just for a short season.

Of course there are the TOM flights to SFB too!

Flitefone 2nd Feb 2016 15:00

Connecting Ryanair and Southwest Hubs
 
There are now widespread reports of both Ryanair and easyJet feeding long haul as an extension of their existing operations. How long before Stansted sees daily trans- Atlantic to NYC, LAX, YYZ etc.? and links through a Gulf hub? It's going to be a while before any if the traditional hubs beyond Rome, Madrid and Dublin have enough LCC volume to make the longhaul feed worthwhile.

My bet is 2017 will see regular services from STN both east and west, announced before end 2016. The question is who? What about connections with the Southwest hubs in the US?

FF

wowzz 2nd Feb 2016 16:23

Given the shambles that is STN at peak hours, plus the queues at Border Control, wild horses wouldn't drag me to a long haul service from the airport.

Bagso 2nd Feb 2016 16:36

Can you provide the links to these reports re lo cost connectivity.

daz211 2nd Feb 2016 17:14

Wowzz
 
Sounds to me you don't understand this industry what so ever.

Most London airports are full at peak times, but this should not impact on any longhaul flights from Stansted.

Transatlantic departures and arrivals would fall outside of peak times at Stansted in fact transatlantic departures would almost have the terminal to themselves.

mik3bravo 2nd Feb 2016 18:32


Originally Posted by Flitefone (Post 9256679)
There are now widespread reports of both Ryanair and easyJet feeding long haul as an extension of their existing operations. How long before Stansted sees daily trans- Atlantic to NYC, LAX, YYZ etc.? and links through a Gulf hub? It's going to be a while before any if the traditional hubs beyond Rome, Madrid and Dublin have enough LCC volume to make the longhaul feed worthwhile.

My bet is 2017 will see regular services from STN both east and west, announced before end 2016. The question is who? What about connections with the Southwest hubs in the US?

FF

WestJet for Canada? They are running services outta Gatwick. Or maybe Air Transat?

wowzz 3rd Feb 2016 11:34

Daz - you MAY be right about the flight timings, and yes, I may not know a lot about the aviation business, but I do fly a lot, and STN is my least favourite UK airport, and is now even worse than it was before, thanks to the recent 're-modelling'.

Flitefone 3rd Feb 2016 15:24

Google is your friend
 

Originally Posted by Bagso (Post 9256795)
Can you provide the links to these reports re lo cost connectivity.

Bagso.the LCC feed topic has been very active in the aviation and business press over the past six months, with talk of feeds by ezy and Ryr to both legacy and Norwegian. LGW is an obvious step but STN has a big gap to fill. Seems likely to me that for atlantic in particular a tie up in Europe with RYR at STN and SWA probably at BWI is likely. Emirates is proving the model in US already with Jetblue

EI-BUD 3rd Feb 2016 16:03

Flitefone,
I think Aer Lingus has proven the link with JetBlue some time ago!!!!
What is Emirates doing differently with JetBlue?


EI-BUD

Flitefone 3rd Feb 2016 16:29


Originally Posted by EI-BUD (Post 9257976)
Flitefone,
I think Aer Lingus has proven the link with JetBlue some time ago!!!!
What is Emirates doing differently with JetBlue?


EI-BUD

I just used Emirates/Jetblue as a contemporary example, not to exclude others. The big LCC in Europe have yet to move to long haul feed, it is imminent, the question is where... LGW has aready introduced a self connect service, something more definitive will come, but STN direction less clear.

FF


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