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LTNman 4th Dec 2015 19:21

I would, they tried Stansted and the passengers didn't come. Much better off just a few miles up the M1 from their market.

Itchin McCrevis 4th Dec 2015 20:18


Perhaps El Al will be tempted back. I would not be surprised
Very unlikely IMHO - Luton (sorry for swearing) is geographically better placed for that market - in the same way Stansted is optimal for the Turkish ethnic market.

jdcg 4th Dec 2015 21:17

Yes, which is why Pegasus thrives although TK tried it with Anadolujet for a while but then switched to LGW which seems more lucrative.
I've often thought that Biman Bangladesh would do well from STN as most of the British Bengali / Sylheti community is based in East London. Though they'd hardly be a coup for MAG. I think EK is the most likely.

AirportPlanner1 4th Dec 2015 22:00

LTNman, we would all accept that LTN is better placed for the Jewish community, but to say the passengers didn't come is factually incorrect. Even if it were true, it took El Al 13 years or more to realise!

Am I right in thinking that the LGW Cathay flights haven't actually been confirmed? I'll leave that thought there....

compton3bravo 5th Dec 2015 11:22

Come on, gentlemen please, can we just stop this bickering and my airport is better than your airport. Both Stansted and Luton are doing very nicely at the moment so let us acknowledge that both have there pros and cons even though they are reportedly to be the two worst airports in the UK but does not seem to worry the vast majority of passengers using the two airports. Thank you.

LTNman 5th Dec 2015 12:49


Come on, gentlemen please, can we just stop this bickering and my airport is better than your airport.
Not sure how you have reached that conclusion. I stated what I thought was a fact and AirportPlanner1 rightly corrected me as I didn't know EL AL had been at Stansted for 13 years. It does beggar the question though why did they move if everything was smelling of roses.

Itchin McCrevis 5th Dec 2015 13:51


Come on, gentlemen please, can we just stop this bickering and my airport is better than your airport.
Bickering? - all I see is an exchange of current "rumour" and historical information.

I could give you more historical factual information about the EL AL operation at Stansted but as that would invariably be seen as criticism of "your airport" I'll leave you to your delusions.

LTNman for God's sake change your handle - it's a red rag to the local fanboys on every thread you post on (which I realise might be deliberate) but it does detract from your other wise generally well informed posts.

rog747 5th Dec 2015 14:39

STN's come along away from the early 70's with only Channel airways tridents, 1-11's and comets which went bust soon after

then came Lloyd (who also went bust) and BMA British Midland with some old ex Pan Am 707-321's for some long haul ABC charters out of the sheds (terminal) with some ONA TIA Saturn AFA Airlift DC-8 charters too and wardair's 707 to Canada
Caravelles of Transeuropa for Tom Hill and Lyons tours holidays

you had the weekend/Sunday Scandinavian flights sterling sas/scanair air viking

but that was it really

LTNman 5th Dec 2015 14:41


LTNman for God's sake change your handle it's a red rag to the local fanboys on every thread you post on.
Yes you are spot on, the name is a red rag to many and yes a bad choice of names but after 4000 posts I can handle it. Actually I would say compton3bravo is actually a Luton boy at heart so I know he means well.


STN's come along away from the early 70's with only Channel airways tridents, 1-11's and comets which went bust soon after

then came Lloyd (who also went bust) and BMA British Midland with some old ex Pan Am 707-321's for some long haul ABC charters out of the sheds (terminal) with some ONA TIA Saturn AFA Airlift DC-8 charters too and wardair's 707 to Canada
Caravelles of Transeuropa for Tom Hill and Lyons tours holidays

you had the weekend/Sunday Scandinavian flights sterling sas/scanair air viking

but that was it really
Yes but don't you think Stansted was a more interesting place in the 70's than it is now. I can remember walking across a couple of fields and standing underneath an African Safari DC8. Fence, what fence?

rog747 5th Dec 2015 15:41

it was eerily quiet on most days then LTNman

remember paying 2/- to go around the new channel trident on display one winter Sunday afternoon

rog747 5th Dec 2015 15:55

1970's
 
BMA British midland did try to operate their first affinity 707 charters from CDD castle donnington (EMA) in 1970/71

but the one HM customs guy had to come from Hull and he was often late and the airport bank only opened twice a week as did the cafe

so when 186 passengers turned up inbound or outbound it was chaos and the tour charter company threatened BMA to pull the plug so that's why the 707's ended up based at STN and not EMA

HARD TO BELIEVE?
“A first-class row blew up in May when a major U.S. tour operator, American Charter Company, reluctantly forced the Company BMA to transfer its U.K. trans-Atlantic terminal from Castle Donington to Stansted, due to lack of immigration officials at the airport, and the lack of currency exchange facilities. In a statement to the press Mike Bishop (MD of BMA) said that East Midlands Airport had thrown away its chance to become an important terminal for international air traffic. The Company was extremely disappointed and very concerned about events since the Boeing flights from Seattle to Castle Donnington had started two months previously. A strong commercial effort had been made to transfer the trans-Atlantic operations to the main base airport for obvious reasons, and there had been nothing but problems. A lot of foreign visitors had gone to the airport and received a distinctly bad impression. Both British Midland Airways and the Airport Authority had stood to profit if the service had remained at Castle Donington, both financially and in the long-term. The sums of money involved were not small, as the airport would have made a minimum of £50,000 in landing fees alone, apart from the prestige involved. The Company stated that there would not be any expansion of British Midland Airways operations at East Midlands until services improved.”

CUSTOMS & EXCISE
“ The main problem, not entirely the airport’s fault, was because one immigration officer, who had to travel all the way from Hull, was supposed to deal with 186 passengers of every nationality. In addition the airport bank and cafe opened only twice a week and, of course, this was completely inadequate.” You can’t of course blame the unfortunate Customs Officer or the part-time bank teller/manager – the problem of arrogance was at a much higher level and reflects, if nothing else, an appalling disregard, lack of manners and thoughtfulness for the basic human needs of weary travellers.

Without any doubt whatsoever, this reflects an abysmal lack of 'joined up thinking' at very senior management levels regarding pre-planning when launching such a major project.

this was 1970!

southender 5th Dec 2015 17:30

Stansted memories
 
This is turning into a Stansted History and Nostalgia thread.

However, my memories go back to the 1950's when spotting at Stansted meant spending the day looking at a number of derelict Tudor fuselages, wondering if anything was ever going to turn up. There was no apron, aircraft still parked in the old war time dispersal stands.

On one occasion, it was a Monday, I wandered into the operations/terminal Nissan type hut to discover that nothing was scheduled to arrive until Wednesday.

Another time after spending most of the day watching only a BOAC Stratocruiser doing circuits, an Air Charter Supertrader landed out of the gloom to finally make it worthwhile.

Stansted for me has always had a special fascination, but as a die hard SEN supporter, I only wish some of it's current success would rub off on us.

Southender

davidjohnson6 7th Dec 2015 23:51

Based on the recent discussion in the Cambridge thread, it seems regular scheduled and charter passenger flights will end at Cambridge on 31-Jan-2015

British Airways / Sun Air fly CBG to Gothenburg which is heavily reliant on corporate support from a pharmaceutical company with major operations in both cities. Will we now see Sun Air turn up at Stansted or will SAS find they've had a sudden piece of good luck ? Can't quite see all the pharma crowd flying with Ryanair but stranger things have happened...

whitelighter 13th Dec 2015 14:36

Can someone explain this
 
must be a mistake surely - though bookable


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...20Tanzania.jpg

LAX_LHR 13th Dec 2015 15:26

It's Thomas Cook, the page is an error on the page.

Teaboy24 13th Dec 2015 15:29

Air Tanzania IATA code is TC. Possible someone put in code thinking it was code for Thomas Cook. Just a thought.

whitelighter 13th Dec 2015 16:34

That makes sense.

NickBarnes 24th Dec 2015 18:56

Just looking at booking with Eurowings on their new service to VIE. Must say so impressed with price and service they appear to offer, around £100 return in July, with a drink and snack, preferred seating and a 23kg bag included.

Must say so nice to have a service like this from Stansted at last!

They carried an average of 124 pax per flight in the month of November

jdcg 2nd Jan 2016 19:45

Friends of mine just flew in via STN and said that Terravision coaches are no longer able to pick up from the coach station. Can this be true? I saw no mention online

STN Ramp Rat 2nd Jan 2016 19:53

Terravision
 
Yes I believe its true, I believe the airport put out a tender with the bus companies for access to the Coach Station and Teravision did not win. I further believe there is a shuttle bus to the Teravision coach stop which may be at or near the Mid Stay Car Park.


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