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[RW20]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

Suggest we come back tomorrow.

Interesting , Easy has to be SOU only real option,the airport operating hours restrict any based operation from Jet2 etc.
To come back to profit and justify the runway extension the airport needs a Summer LCC operating into it.

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

Suggest we come back tomorrow.

I usually tend to 'check in' to pprune on a daily basis so we're see you tomorrow 😉

[MATaxi]

News on Twitter tonight via Sean M that Easy start Belfast and Glasgow from Southampton in October. Three flights a week and two flights a week respectively. It’s modest but it’s a start nonetheless.

[stewyb]

Originally Posted by MATaxi

News on Twitter tonight via Sean M that Easy start Belfast and Glasgow from Southampton in October. Three flights a week and two flights a week respectively. It’s modest but it’s a start nonetheless.

There will be more for S24

[ib26uk]

Originally Posted by stewyb

There will be more for S24

Hopefully a MAN-SOU on an A319 - Its one route I would use, it would be very popular with the cruising market... pipe dream I know...

[MARKEYD]

Good news for sure to see EasyJet testing the waters this winter

One bit of concern is not to dilute the already established routes operated by Emerald and Loganair and chase them off in lieu of just 1 flight a day using a 180 seater jet

[BOHEuropean]

Shame to see them choosing routes already established by Loganair and Aer Lingus. Let's hope if there's further route developments it doesn't come at the cost of our other operators at Southampton.

EZY13 BFS-SOU 10:25-11:40 MON (Starts 30 October, ends 25 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 12:30-13:50 MON (Starts 30 October, ends 25 March)

EZY13 BFS-SOU 11:40-12:55 FRI (Starts 03 November, ends 29 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 13:30-14:50 FRI (Starts 03 November, ends 29 March)

EZY409 GLA-SOU 16:00-17:20 THU (Starts 02 November, ends 28 March)
EZY410 SOU-GLA 17:50-19:15 THU (Starts 02 November, ends 28 March)

EZY409 GLA-SOU 08:05-09:25 SAT (Starts 04 November, ends 30 March)
EZY410 SOU-GLA 09:55-11:20 SAT (Starts 04 November, ends 30 March)

EZY13 BFS-SOU 09:50-11:05 SUN (Starts 29 October, ends 24 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 11:55-13:15 SUN (Starts 29 October, ends 24 March)

[davidjohnson6]

I'm wondering when Easyjet will start a route to Edinburgh...

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by MARKEYD

Good news for sure to see EasyJet testing the waters this winter

One bit of concern is not to dilute the already established routes operated by Emerald and Loganair and chase them off in lieu of just 1 flight a day using a 180 seater jet

A concern already expressed by Loganair - see post #1472

[willy wombat]

I never thought I’d say this but I almost feel like there should be some return to light touch route regulation by the CAA.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by BOHEuropean

Shame to see them choosing routes already established by Loganair and Aer Lingus. Let's hope if there's further route developments it doesn't come at the cost of our other operators at Southampton.

EZY13 BFS-SOU 10:25-11:40 MON (Starts 30 October, ends 25 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 12:30-13:50 MON (Starts 30 October, ends 25 March)

EZY13 BFS-SOU 11:40-12:55 FRI (Starts 03 November, ends 29 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 13:30-14:50 FRI (Starts 03 November, ends 29 March)

EZY409 GLA-SOU 16:00-17:20 THU (Starts 02 November, ends 28 March)
EZY410 SOU-GLA 17:50-19:15 THU (Starts 02 November, ends 28 March)

EZY409 GLA-SOU 08:05-09:25 SAT (Starts 04 November, ends 30 March)
EZY410 SOU-GLA 09:55-11:20 SAT (Starts 04 November, ends 30 March)

EZY13 BFS-SOU 09:50-11:05 SUN (Starts 29 October, ends 24 March)
EZY14 SOU-BFS 11:55-13:15 SUN (Starts 29 October, ends 24 March)

This was the battle on IOM, multiple daily connections vs. at best once daily volume on the same route. You guys may end up with very little net new routes and losing out on existing flexibility on timings, all to save some money. Swings and roundabouts as this schedule could kill the margins of both competitors stone dead and the assets will be flown elsewhere potentially leaving days with no service at all.

[willy wombat]

I very much hope that SOU haven’t given EZY a discount/marketing assistance for these duplicate routes. Anyone know?

[tallaonejuliet]

The Easyjet announcement is the beginning of the end for the high frequency services that have been re-established since COVID and demise of Flybe.
Expect reductions in services by Emerald and Loganair due to this, they can't compete in terms of cost. Regional connectivity will become a thing of the past.

[davidjohnson6]

I get that frequency will decline, but so will cost.
30 years ago, airfares were high, and people often couldn't afford to fly. The idea of flying London-Glasgow for leisure was generally unthinkable for most people. Low fares and LCCs significantly stimulated the market, and demand rose by a large degree.
Loganair's niche at SOU was because of the temporary effects and affer-effects of Covid. That niche is disappearing. An E145 should be used on genuinely niche routes - not a major city in southern UK to the central belt. Even a Flybe Dash 8 had almost double the seats.
SOU is one of the few non-trivial-sized UK airports to have largely missed out in the past on seeing the commercial benefits of substantial low-cost 100+ seat jet service and the associated passenger demand increase - it needs that boost.

We're not talking here about routes to small rural islands like the Orkneys.

[Albert Hall]

Loganair response

Clearly not happy, but having a spirited go.

Who flies between Glasgow and Southampton on a Saturday morning in winter? Certainly not enough to fill an Airbus, surely?

[Asturias56]

get the price right (ie vv low) and people will fly

You can't have it both ways - a LCO and a couple of niche, relatively high cost, regional airlines on the same route

[GAZMO]

Originally Posted by Albert Hall

Loganair response

Clearly not happy, but having a spirited go.

Who flies between Glasgow and Southampton on a Saturday morning in winter? Certainly not enough to fill an Airbus, surely?

Still think there may be a few more GLA SOU flights, Thurs / Sat not really working for a lot of people

[Albert Hall]

The Easyjet announcement is the beginning of the end for the high frequency services that have been re-established since COVID and demise of Flybe.
Expect reductions in services by Emerald and Loganair due to this, they can't compete in terms of cost. Regional connectivity will become a thing of the past.

You'd think so, but given easyJet's ability to screw up almost everything they touch at the moment, it might not be so. You'd have said the same for MAN/ABZ. but that turned out in Loganair's favour.

There seem to be some very poor management and network decisions being made in easyJet and this is another one, IMHO.

[VickersVicount]

LM SOU quite lucrative by all accounts so no wonder theyre kicking off! Very weird routing /frequency for EZY though… would have been better doing IOM!

[RW20]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

LM SOU quite lucrative by all accounts so no wonder theyre kicking off! Very weird routing /frequency for EZY though… would have been better doing IOM!

This announcement is not the best of news for SOU,very strange limited times,are SOU pandering to Easy,hoping for Some Summer routes?
Lets hope SOU doesnt go down the Southend route with Easy, we need Loganair and air lingus.