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Old 16th May 2024, 14:07
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March's CAA figures are available. Southampton had 67,160 passengers in March.



March figures compared to the same month in 2019:



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Old 16th May 2024, 15:22
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
Highly likely that SOU will get additional routes and frequency from away based flying in 2025 to:

Amsterdam
Paris
Malaga
Alicante
Faro
Palma
Hopefully this will happen,SOU needs expansion for long term survival
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Old 16th May 2024, 15:45
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Originally Posted by RW20
Hopefully this will happen,SOU needs expansion for long term survival
Courtesy of Fat Boy Slim.

"I don't know whether he was really saying it, all he kept saying was".

Eat, Sleep, Rave, Repeat.
SOU needs expansion for long term survival
Eat, Sleep, Rave, Repeat
SOU needs expansion for long term survival
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Old 16th May 2024, 16:11
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
Highly likely that SOU will get additional routes and frequency from away based flying in 2025 to:

Amsterdam
Paris
Malaga
Alicante
Faro
Palma
As youíve taken my earlier comment and added to it, you have introduced some misinformation. No prospect of easyJet on SOU-AMS.
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Old 16th May 2024, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
As youíve taken my earlier comment and added to it, you have introduced some misinformation. No prospect of easyJet on SOU-AMS.
Good, happy to keep KLM serving the airport 3 daily. CDG however would be good news

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Old 17th May 2024, 06:39
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Update on SEN's Southend S2025 newly reopened base and latest routes.

EasyJet is opening its 10th UK base with three 186-seat A320neo aircraft assigned to Southend in time for summer 2025.
The base will open next March with six new routes to Pisa, Gran Canaria, Dalaman, Antalya, Marrakech, and Enfidha (Tunisia) to operate in addition to its current programme.

Am surprised that Greece is not there...
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Old 17th May 2024, 07:29
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Which would seem, superficially, a fairly big obstacle 😵‍💫
Several hundred posts on the subject and someone has just noticed the elephant in the room......................
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Old 17th May 2024, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
You have to say itís a positive sign as it shows that Easy are having to get their growth from outside the big London airports again. Naturally, this suggests SOU could be next. Personally I think SOU should take preference over SEN as it has far more potential. Looking at a map SEN has water nearly all the way around it, certainly more than SOU and STN is just up the road. Letís not forget that SEN has never really had domestic routes whereas SOU still has a big need for those which adds another dynamic. Iím obviously bias though.
Not sure I agree SOU has more potential than SEN. Yeah, SEN is close to the water (SOU isn't exactly far from the sea either?) but it has a much larger population nearby. Just draw a radius or a polygon around it on any online population calculator website and you will see the population is far in excess of anything SOU can match. Similarly, it's serving the London market. Luton is pretty much full. Ditto Stansted and Gatwick. Easyjet retreated way too quickly from Stansted post COVID but SEN gives them an empty airport and extra capacity needed into the all important London market.

Also, I fully appreciate other EJU bases have flights which operate within the operational hours SOU can offer. But, easyjet's main focus at the moment in the UK is growing their holiday business, especially into regions like Turkey. Look at the flights offered out of SEN, most of them have return flights landing after 11pm and into the early hours of the morning.

I can see why they plumped for SEN over SOU at this moment for a new base. Although this doesn't mean there might not be some other growth at SOU over the next few years.....
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Old 17th May 2024, 23:12
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Perhaps the airport needs to be renamed London-Southampton? I'll get my coat ....
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Old 18th May 2024, 05:53
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Catchment coverage of U.K. population.

Within 1 hour
SOU 3.2%
SEN 2.8%
BOH 2.1%

Within 90 mins
SEN 12.9%
SOU 7.2%
BOH 4.2%

Within 2 hours league table
LHR 1st 31.5%
LTN 2nd 31%
LGW 3rd 29.9%
STN 4th 29.8%
SEN 7th 24.7%
SOU 10th 19.8%
BOH 17th 8.2%

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ity-report.pdf
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Old 18th May 2024, 07:13
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Catchment coverage of U.K. population.

Within 1 hour
SOU 3.2%
SEN 2.8%
BOH 2.1%

Within 90 mins
SEN 12.9%
SOU 7.2%
BOH 4.2%

Within 2 hours league table
LHR 1st 31.5%
LTN 2nd 31%
LGW 3rd 29.9%
STN 4th 29.8%
SEN 7th 24.7%
SOU 10th 19.8%
BOH 17th 8.2%

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ity-report.pdf

The York Aviation report is excellent. It is important to remember that for individual airports it is the overlap of airport catchment areas that matters, not the catchment itself. Specifically what choice of airports do passengers have within 60, 90 and 120 minutes of their home/destination? In the case of SOU, that brings in BRS, BOH, EXT, LGW, LHR, LCY (by train), STN and in some cases even BHX and SEN. Thats a lot of choice/competition.

In general, travellers enjoy the reduced hassle of regional airports and will use them if the destination options and prices work.

Airlines on the other hand prefer to concentrate their efforts in as few airports as possible for each market (southern England) which brings us to the slots question. The main airports are already full. Peak season runway capacity is not available in southern England (in the summer season) except at EXT, BOH, SOU and SEN. This is why airlines are announcing new routes at these airports and why SOU will grow (in summer at least).

The risk for these smaller airports is that additional runway capacity planned at LTN, STN and LGW is approved by planners, a 50/50 likelihood - if that planned growth is approved and goes ahead, airlines will hoover up that new capacity rather than add flights to regional airports - all because of the huge demand from London.

Then there is the matter of airspace congestion, which for London is much harder to fix

On balance therefore, the prospects for growth at SOU in summer seasons are very good. But as for many airports, seasonality will be the challenge. Cue tumbleweed each winter.


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Old 18th May 2024, 08:29
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AGS airports - first quarter 2024 passengers compared to previous years. Southampton and Aberdeen yet to exceed 2020 figures.

AGS pax first quarter
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Aberdeen has been murdered by the Govt levy on the Oil & gas companies - I see Chevron are pulling out now
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Old 18th May 2024, 15:52
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Originally Posted by Ascupart
AGS airports - first quarter 2024 passengers compared to previous years. Southampton and Aberdeen yet to exceed 2020 figures.

AGS pax first quarter
Going over old ground time and time again on this thread concerning SOU growth versus pre Covid. Everyone knows this is a reflection of BE going bust and the business model the airport operated previous where 90% of traffic relied on one airline. This has been remedied somewhat and good to see growth now appearing month on month. This will only improve with easyjet now doing some summer sun and hopefully adding a few more routes so credit to the airport for making these changes although a lot more still to be done. Of course SOU has been on the back foot massively compared to most other airports recovering from the pandemic but that growth curve is starting to move in a positive direction and there is no reason why that canít continue over the next few years.
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Old 19th May 2024, 14:17
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Iím not connected with the industry at all in any way, I donít know any Ďinsidersí and I havenít heard any juicy rumours.

Iím sure EZY will increase the number of flights and destinations and who knows, in time they may open up a small base.

But a part of me canít help thinking that if they dilly-dally for too long they may just get pipped to the post by an outsider like Wizz.
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Old 19th May 2024, 15:15
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The catchment coverage shows a disproportionate number for SOU based on its proximity to London. There is no way the vast majority of the 90-120min population will even consider SOU as a departure point.

Propensity to fly (ptf) also needs to be taken into account.

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Old 19th May 2024, 15:53
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Not sure on ptf and all this jargon but I would wager that within the next few years the one thing that has always done really well from the airport and thatís domestic flying will be taken up by easyjet and this includes Jersey. Passengers within 60 minutes of SOU would rather travel from a smaller regional for domestics than experience the hell holes of LHR/LGW
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Old 19th May 2024, 16:17
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Not sure on ptf and all this jargon but I would wager that within the next few years the one thing that has always done really well from the airport and thatís domestic flying will be taken up by easyjet and this includes Jersey. Passengers within 60 minutes of SOU would rather travel from a smaller regional for domestics than experience the hell holes of LHR/LGW

Which will put SOU back in the position of being 90% reliant on one carrier.
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Old 19th May 2024, 19:45
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I think a lot of the 60 minute population might be optimistic. Probably technically correct but if it requires any travel on the M27, there’s no guarantees.
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Old 19th May 2024, 20:13
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Which will put SOU back in the position of being 90% reliant on one carrier.
Yes you are right but l can see this happening on domestics especially. The days of niche/smaller regional carriers operating multiple daily are diminishing and unfortunately will become unsustainable at some point in the near future, mainly borne out of course from reduced business travel.
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