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Old 21st May 2024, 21:01
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Originally Posted by RW20
​​​​​​If Pax numbers are good on the GLA route then surely 2x weekly seems very light, especially now Loganair have discontinued there service?
Looks like the GLA days and times are a carbon copy of W23/24.

It was June 8th when easyJet made their frequency changes for W23/24, I suspect a similar date this year and would be surprised if SOU didn't benefit.

It should also be pointed out that in W23/24 EZY went from 5 to 4 based units at Glasgow. Given this summer they have 6 based units I would be surprised to see them remove 2 based units at GLA for W24/25.

All 4 aircraft are currently utilised at GLA for the winter, but the new NBE route is still to go on sale for winter, as it was announced as year round, i suspect therefore there is an entire based units worth of flight to be loaded at GLA
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Old 22nd May 2024, 06:59
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Originally Posted by RW20
​​​Its difficult to see who could base an operation to new destinations.
Indeed, and IMO, it could only be Easyjet UK, if they eventually choose to start up at SOU as a proper Base (with a similar model like they have successfully done twice now at SEN).

It was Ryanair coming (muscling) into SEN, and then Covid that killed, not just EZY, but also almost killed off SEN Airport in its entirety.
Thankfully SEN is now slowly bouncing back (as long as RYR stay away).


BACF sadly began its startup at SOU right in the middle of the Pandemic and was then subject to the ridiculous stop-start UK Govt travel restrictions, and thus BA never really had a chance to recover its stature., nor IMO did they try.
So many of their planned routes never even saw their first Pax, NCE BER FLR to name a few, were routes that were canned.
JMK ALC SZG and IBZ did not last long.

BA's Press Release back in DEC 2020:
Under a new seasonal agreement with Southampton Airport, the airline will operate flights each weekend commencing 1 May to 31 October 2021.
BA CityFlyer will fly from Southampton to: AGP (Malaga), FLR (Florence), FAO (Faro), JMK (Mykonos), IBZ (Ibiza), PMI (Palma de Mallorca), EGC (Bergerac Dordogne Pťrigord), LIG (Limoges–Bellegarde), NCE (Nice CŰte d'Azur), EDI (Edinburgh), DUB (Dublin) BER (Berlin), plus SZG Salzburg and CMF Chambery in the winter.
Club Europe and Avios Rewards are available on all flights, and SOU Airport boasts a Business Class Spitfire Lounge.
'ends...

Alicante (ALC) was added for summer 2022, but Salzburg which was planned to also fly during the summer, got canned.

All we have now for this summer with BACF, is PMI AGP FAO and Bergerac, plus a couple of weekly PMI charters for TUI Holidays.

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Old 22nd May 2024, 06:59
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Good news as it seems BA are back for S25 with both Bergerac and Palma bookable via the app from mid May.
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Old 22nd May 2024, 07:04
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Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
Looks like the GLA days and times are a carbon copy of W23/24.

It was June 8th when easyJet made their frequency changes for W23/24, I suspect a similar date this year and would be surprised if SOU didn't benefit.

It should also be pointed out that in W23/24 EZY went from 5 to 4 based units at Glasgow. Given this summer they have 6 based units I would be surprised to see them remove 2 based units at GLA for W24/25.

All 4 aircraft are currently utilised at GLA for the winter, but the new NBE route is still to go on sale for winter, as it was announced as year round, i suspect therefore there is an entire based units worth of flight to be loaded at GLA
Thanks GNT for the sensible comments. Agree it is way too early to assess what EZY will do yet.

CFE have a habit of moving their SAT/SUN flying around during the LCY down period - I don't think they were ever a long term prospect from SOU other than in this capacity.
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Old 23rd May 2024, 17:39
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https://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2024...weigh-up-sale/
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Old 23rd May 2024, 17:45
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Considering all three airports (Southampton, Glasgow and Aberdeen) are currently below their 2014 pax levels, I don't think they can expect anything like the £1bn they paid for it a decade ago.
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Old 23rd May 2024, 20:47
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Good luck U2 sorting out the PMI mess tonight
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Old 23rd May 2024, 22:24
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May I ask what happened?
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Old 23rd May 2024, 22:27
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Oh wait yeh I see now, left PMI very late and going to LGW, eek
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Old 24th May 2024, 06:02
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The best bit is that no onward transport was provided to Southampton from Gatwick and the return out of Southampton was cancelled. A good start for the half term break. This is always going to be an issue for part time airports.
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Old 24th May 2024, 06:03
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Didnít leave Gatwick until 1:40am for the return flight to Palma so not a surprise it was cancelled and rerouted via Gatwick.
I am assuming the passengers were bused to Gatwick. If so at least they still got to their destination
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Old 24th May 2024, 06:05
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Brilliant start to the first week of the new summer season - NOT LOL!

Note to self - Do not book an inbound flight due back very late into both SOU or BOH.....
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Old 24th May 2024, 06:32
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Originally Posted by Stevooo
I am assuming the passengers were bused to Gatwick. If so at least they still got to their destination
I don’t think so

https://www.easyjet.com/en/flight-tr...?fd=2024-05-23

We’re sorry that your flight has been cancelled.
This is because the safety of you and our crew is our highest priority and a technical issue with the aircraft could not be resolved.
We understand that this will be disappointing news and we want to make it as easy as possible for you to make new plans, so here’s everything you need to know about what to do next.
What happens now?
We’ve got three options available for you – please have a look at them and choose the one that suits you best. To select one, please click on the orange button here on Flight Tracker, or log into your booking on our website or via the easyJet app.

1. Switch to another flight for free
2. Choose a voucher for the full value of your ticket.
3. Request a refund.
This is the problem when passengers don’t book a package holiday, as they will still have to pay for the accommodation.

inbound
https://www.easyjet.com/en/flight-tr...?fd=2024-05-23

Your flight will now be operating into London Gatwick as Southampton airport will be closed once you arrive
We're really sorry we've been unable to arrange transport to Southampton for you this evening.
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Old 24th May 2024, 07:45
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1. Switch to another flight for free
No flights now until Monday from SOU. Suddenly the appeal of flying from the local airport has less appeal. Unknowingly the passengers made a poor choice as they could have been on the beach now if they had flown from Gatwick. No doubt they will think twice in the future.
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Old 24th May 2024, 08:26
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Eastern have cancelled the Paris flight again. Absolutely ridiculous excuse for a business.

Blue Islands also regularly cancelling flights lately. I would be surprised if the SOU routes are not their most popular so why they are cancelling flights from there and still flying to the likes of East Midlands, Exeter and Dublin is beyond me.

I cannot recall seeing any of the Easy flights cancelled from SOU. Bring them on I say. There was a time when regional airlines went the extra mile to keep your business but can’t say that anymore.
SOU bashing or bringing some balance to the discussion? All airports and airlines have their strengths and weaknesses. Yes, small airports are nice and easy to get through but offer limited choice of flights which can bite when your flight gets cancelled.

Really bad timing for SOU and EZY.
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Old 24th May 2024, 09:23
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In fairness Emerald are also having a hell of a time with the ATR. Seems to be an industry wide issue with parts supply's for these aircraft
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Old 24th May 2024, 09:47
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
Let the SOU bashing begin. This could and does happen from time to time at many regional airports around the U.K. but letís give SOU a bloody good kicking whilst weíre at it!
Iíve reported the posts to the mods so hopefully they will be removed. Itís very clear what posts are constructive and which have been made to generate hate. Imagine getting joy from making people angry? The genuine people on here need to start reporting posts that are not constructive criticism. Take note of the fact they come from the same handful of posters every time as well.

Originally Posted by SWBKCB
SOU bashing or bringing some balance to the discussion? All airports and airlines have their strengths and weaknesses. Yes, small airports are nice and easy to get through but offer limited choice of flights which can bite when your flight gets cancelled.

Really bad timing for SOU and EZY.
A technical problem with an aircraft is the airports problem? For like the 5th time let me post this:

ORY - last based EJU flight lands at 22:30
NTE - last based EJU flight lands at 22:30
AMS - last based EJU flight lands at 22:35
BCN - last based EJU flight lands at 22:50
NCE - last based EJU flight lands at 22:55
NAP - last based EJU flight lands at 22:55
BER - last based EJU flight lands at 22:55
LYS - last based EJU flight lands at 23:05
BOD - last based EJU flight lands at 23:05
OPO - last based EJU flight lands at 23:05
BSL - last based EJU flight lands at 23:05
GVA - last based EJU flight lands at 23:10
CDG - last based EJU flight lands at 23:25

If the flight was to any of the above airports it would also have had to divert. I wonder how many flights to the above airports have had to divert just in the last month? Are you lot on the threads for those airports bashing the airports that itís their fault a plane with a technical fault has led to a diversion? Are AMS, CDG etc small airports? Your prejudices are clear to see.

Personally I donít think any airports should be open after 12am and clearly there are moves towards this way of thinking as seen at other airports restricting flying. Even Heathrow effectively shuts at 11:30pm.


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Old 24th May 2024, 10:16
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It is just as well that SouthernAlliance deleted his own post. Really crass comment. Leave the nastiness to the UK newspapers.
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As far as I am aware, the situation at SOU is not as bad as most people imagine and shouldn't preclude a low-cost based operator in the future. The answer lies in the hands of the airport because, unless I am wrong (and I may well be!), the night period is designated as being from 23:00 to 06:00, or to 07:30 on Sunday mornings. The airport is permitted to operate 10 scheduled night flights per month, but not more than 100 in any 12 month period.
So therefore, it is up to the airport management to ensure that provision is made for a skeleton staff to be on-site to cope with these situations as and when they occur. Paying overtime/drafting people in occasionally at short notice must surely be better in the long-term than the reputational damage caused by a diversion.
If 175 passengers share their story of the horrendous nightmare of trying to get back to their car at SOU's car park from Gatwick in the wee small hours to a dozen or more friends/relatives/colleagues, with those disrupted on the beginning of their journeys doing likewise, those people will also say 'don't book from Southampton, a friend of mine did that and they were stranded at Gatwick in the middle of the night'.

I had exactly this experience in 2018 flying into SOU on a very late BE operated flight from Skiathos, we were all set to divert to Exeter but at the last minute the decision was taken to allow landing at Southampton at around 00.45. I appreciate that a lot of people had to stay on to deal with the flight, control tower, ramp staff, fire cover, baggage handlers, security, border enforcement, long-stay car park bus driver to name but a few, but the goodwill generated went a long way.
It may be on this occasion that EZY needed to divert to Gatwick and the diversion was unavoidable, but SOU really needs to go all-out to show a positive 'can-do' attitude and look after its airline customers and their passengers. The airport has such amazing potential.
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Old 24th May 2024, 11:40
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The airport is permitted to operate 10 scheduled night flights per month, but not more than 100 in any 12 month period.
That’s fine and dandy but the airport needs staff including fire cover who agree to work on and at what cost to the airport that would also include standby payments. Cheapest option is to say too late mate, should have got here earlier.

Personally I don’t think any airports should be open after 12am and clearly there are moves towards this way of thinking as seen at other airports restricting flying. Even Heathrow effectively shuts at 11:30pm.
Yep I agree.
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