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Old 24th May 2024, 11:54
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Originally Posted by SotonFlightpath
As far as I am aware, the situation at SOU is not as bad as most people imagine and shouldn't preclude a low-cost based operator in the future. The answer lies in the hands of the airport because, unless I am wrong (and I may well be!), the night period is designated as being from 23:00 to 06:00, or to 07:30 on Sunday mornings. The airport is permitted to operate 10 scheduled night flights per month, but not more than 100 in any 12 month period.
So therefore, it is up to the airport management to ensure that provision is made for a skeleton staff to be on-site to cope with these situations as and when they occur. Paying overtime/drafting people in occasionally at short notice must surely be better in the long-term than the reputational damage caused by a diversion.
If 175 passengers share their story of the horrendous nightmare of trying to get back to their car at SOU's car park from Gatwick in the wee small hours to a dozen or more friends/relatives/colleagues, with those disrupted on the beginning of their journeys doing likewise, those people will also say 'don't book from Southampton, a friend of mine did that and they were stranded at Gatwick in the middle of the night'.

I had exactly this experience in 2018 flying into SOU on a very late BE operated flight from Skiathos, we were all set to divert to Exeter but at the last minute the decision was taken to allow landing at Southampton at around 00.45. I appreciate that a lot of people had to stay on to deal with the flight, control tower, ramp staff, fire cover, baggage handlers, security, border enforcement, long-stay car park bus driver to name but a few, but the goodwill generated went a long way.
It may be on this occasion that EZY needed to divert to Gatwick and the diversion was unavoidable, but SOU really needs to go all-out to show a positive 'can-do' attitude and look after its airline customers and their passengers. The airport has such amazing potential.
Itís not most people itís a small selection of people from other threads who get a kick out of winding other people up. Then other well meaning posters engage in the negative debate unbeknown to them it was started by someone with bad intentions and this thread becomes all doom and gloom again. You are not helping taking their bait. The only way to keep this thread on track is to ignore them otherwise it will descend into a toxic slanging match again. Obviously saying stuff like SOU is a part time airport is not a sensible or constructive thing to say. I have reported these people and hopefully action will be taken against them. There is no place for bullying in any walk of life.

SOU is doing just fine and its operating hours are in line with lots of big airports as I have listed numerous times. That can be put to bed.
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Old 24th May 2024, 13:16
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
Itís not most people itís a small selection of people from other threads who get a kick out of winding other people up. .
Statement of the year so far, I'm still removing cornflakes from my screen....
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Old 24th May 2024, 13:35
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Originally Posted by LTNman
The best bit is that no onward transport was provided to Southampton from Gatwick and the return out of Southampton was cancelled. A good start for the half term break. This is always going to be an issue for part time airports.
If only all part time airports had 30 departures daily and 1m pax annually
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Old 24th May 2024, 16:56
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Obviously saying stuff like SOU is a part time airport is not a sensible or constructive thing to say.
It’s not a criticism, it’s a fact. I wish my local airport had SOU operating hours so I would say the SOU balance is about right. The downside are diversions due to late arrivals.

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Old 25th May 2024, 08:59
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If only all part time airports had 30 departures daily and 1m pax annually
Even better if they actually made a profit
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Old 25th May 2024, 18:56
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Another cancellation to Palma?

Why was the BA arrival from Bergerac and departure to Palma cancelled today?
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Old 25th May 2024, 19:35
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Itís not a criticism, itís a fact. I wish my local airport had SOU operating hours so I would say the SOU balance is about right. The downside are diversions due to late arrivals.
On your profile your occupation is listed as 'keeping my head down'.

Have you changed your occupation by any chance 🤔
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Old 26th May 2024, 06:28
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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
Why was the BA arrival from Bergerac and departure to Palma cancelled today?
Are you sure you have the right airport thread as there were no flights to cancel?
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Old 26th May 2024, 06:38
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Are you sure you have the right airport thread as there were no flights to cancel?
BACF over the weekend from SOU has flown to/from Palma, Faro, Malaga and Bergerac,
plus also a Palma charter BA4507 for TUI Holidays.

There is a Palma cancellation this morning. BA2903.
No idea why, sorry.
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Old 26th May 2024, 07:02
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Ahh, I was only thinking Easyjet. Thanks for the reminder about BA who don’t give a reason for the cancellation.

i hope no one from the cancelled Easyjet flight had rebooked on this one.

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Old 26th May 2024, 07:20
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Ahh, I was only thinking Easyjet. Thanks for the reminder about BA who donít give a reason.
EasyJet have a Belfast International and a Glasgow flying today, and both also flew same yesterday.
Tonight is from/to Alicante.
Palma & Glasgow tomorrow.

Most flights are on the A319, but some were A320.
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The aircraft operating the BA Palma service is still
AOG in Bergerac from yesterday
Its now leaving Bergerac for SOU at 11am then positioning empty back to LCY
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Old 26th May 2024, 08:20
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Originally Posted by MARKEYD
The aircraft operating the BA Palma service is still
AOG in Bergerac from yesterday
No idea of the booked PMI load but guess many folk will be looking at EZY from SOU tomorrow, seats are very £££ at £398 each one/way, but BACF will have to pay for that plus HOTAC for tonight too.
From BOH EXT and BRS > today and Monday nothing available...
But hey, it's Whitsun Hols.

From LGW > nothing today, there are seats tomorrow on EZY and BA, and from LHR tomorrow on BA

Edit: I was quite surprised BACF had no spare rescue plane to fly in to SOU for the Palma this morning, but of course LCY base is closed for a time on SAT and SUN. Hey Ho.
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BA wonít pay for EZY as no agreement with the airline , Swissport at SOU will tell them to go on the App and re book via various options or try and speak to the ď next available agent ď
most likely BA from LGW & LHR then claim back any transport , hotels etc
This was cancelled last night so most people would have received an email and told not to go to the airport
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You can rebook yourself on EZY SOU to Palma and send the bill into BA -
They will pay, plus cover any HOTAC, meal and transport costs you may have suffered.

Correct, they won't rebook you on EZY, but they will pay up if you make your own arrangements.
Plus of course the EU 261 Compo kicks in too.
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Originally Posted by rog747
You can rebook yourself on EZY SOU to Palma and send the bill into BA -
They will pay, plus cover any HOTAC, meal and transport costs you may have suffered.

Correct, they won't rebook you on EZY, but they will pay up if you make your own arrangements.
Plus of course the EU 261 Compo kicks in too.
Problem being flights on easyjet PMI are selling well and again sold out for Mondays departure
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Thursdays first easyJet to FAO went out near on full (A320) and both PMI and ALC continue with strong loads. Hoping for some increased capacity next summer.
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Thursdays first easyJet to FAO went out near on full (A320) and both PMI and ALC continue with strong loads. Hoping for some increased capacity next summer.
Hope so, but will be reliant on away based aircraft until the ownership of the airport is settled one way or another. If EZY plan to base aircraft at SOU in the future then they will continue to work on the project, but sign on the dotted line? No chance given the current uncertainty IMO.

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Originally Posted by stewyb
Thursdays first easyJet to FAO went out near on full (A320) and both PMI and ALC continue with strong loads. Hoping for some increased capacity next summer.
Is it half-term in the south - if so you'd expect good loads.
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Thereís a rather more fundamental issue with airfield performance limitations standing in the way of growth ahead of any worries about operating hours.
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