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Old 20th Jul 2022, 19:53
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Yet we live in a more 24/7 world. Who would have thought you could go to ASDA at 2AM to do your weekly shop 30 years ago? Can't have it both ways.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 20:10
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Wonder then why Luton can struggle to retain staff. Maybe they all want to work at Asda?

https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla

One of many jobs from the above listing of vaccines.

Retention bonus: £500 to be paid if still employed by the company by end of the summer period (end of October)

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Old 20th Jul 2022, 21:27
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Wonder then why Luton can struggle to retain staff. Maybe they all want to work at Asda?
https://www.london-luton.co.uk/corporate/working-at-lla
One of many jobs from the above listing of vaccines.
But you are not quoting an exclusive Luton Airport problem, have you not seen the news about Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester, Birmingham.......... You keep harping on about Luton, Luton, Luton when it is an Industry problem currently, and in fact not just this Industry in UK or across Europe.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 22:01
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Bizjet to arrive in the small hours tonight, but by a company who regularly do Air Ambulance flights so that is within the rules.
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Old 20th Jul 2022, 22:03
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You keep harping on about Luton, Luton, Luton
This is a Luton thread if you hadn’t noticed. Or course this is a U.K. wide problem including much of Europe.

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Old 21st Jul 2022, 08:40
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https://airwaysmag.com/london-lutons-distorted-runway/

This is interesting , why is Luton’s runway different to others around London?
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Old 21st Jul 2022, 08:55
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Cash in hand to a bunch of caravan dwellers to carry out the tarmacking? I am assuming price is the main factor here, just like the terminal. Interestingly, I was watching the NBC nightly news in America when they had an article on the European heat wave. Yes you guessed it, they showed an aerial shot of Luton's runway with about a dozen people in hi vis jackets staring at it. 104F always sound better than 40C.
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Old 21st Jul 2022, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
Cash in hand to a bunch of caravan dwellers to carry out the tarmacking? I am assuming price is the main factor here, just like the terminal. .
Maybe in the early years when they block paved the turning circles but hopefully a bit more professional now. I think the last assessment of the runway was done in 2017.
If anybody is interested-
Lutons runway is classified as 75R/D/X/T 75 being the load factor, R rigid ,D Subgrade ultra low , X Max tyre pressure 1.75Mpa , T tech evaluation.
The Subgrade of D Ultra Low is expressed as uncompacted soil , only Stansted is expressed the same of the Major London Airports.
Lutonís runway from the 1950s was concrete and I guess has been overlaid many times and levelled with Asphalt so why a classification of Ultra Low?
Was Luton the only original concrete runway of the four Airports listed in the Article hence why itís rigid?
I guess the Airport will hope these extreme temperatures donít happen as often as predicted.

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Old 22nd Jul 2022, 15:05
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First Sun Express B737 Max (TC-SMA) operated the XQ530/1 today.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 20:41
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Two El Al flights tomorrow, both showing as 739s.
Who knows, with them bringing 777s back into service due to demand, perhaps one of those later in the summer?
But TLV airport is suffering like many European in staff shortages so not likely to be a pleasant experience.

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Old 25th Jul 2022, 20:47
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El Al is fortunate in have an existing operation out of Luton after Heathrow has admitted it can’t cope.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 22:09
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Having flown out of LTN and TLV numerous times recently, all I can say is that LTN is in a far worse state. El Al also has a very significant number of airframes still parked up at TLV including 737/777/787s.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 22:36
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Just wait and see how bad it gets if 19m is approved.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 22:40
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Just wait and see how bad it gets if 19m is approved.
Where are the likely major pinch points with 19m ?
It seems to have coped rather better with the current July peak than many would have thought. Not luxurious, but it has coped

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Old 25th Jul 2022, 23:56
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Originally Posted by Alloy
Having flown out of LTN and TLV numerous times recently, all I can say is that LTN is in a far worse state. El Al also has a very significant number of airframes still parked up at TLV including 737/777/787s.
A quick check on FR24 shows all 788 & 789 active, I think one has never been delivered, all but just a few 737s inactive and the well advertised reactivation of 777s.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chaos-...t-of-terminal/

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Old 26th Jul 2022, 04:58
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Where are the likely major pinch points with 19m ?
It seems to have coped rather better with the current July peak than many would have thought. Not luxurious, but it has coped
That is because Luton is operating well below 2019 figures when 18m passengers were reached.

The last comparable month is May when 1,229,218 passengers passed through Luton compared with May 2019 when 1,660,558 passed through the airport. That is a drop of over 25% making Luton somewhat more tolerable.

The physical infrastructure is not there to handle 18m passenger, let alone 19m, to a degree of comfort a battery hen should expect. We have to remember that in normal times that year after year Luton is voted the UK’s worst airport. Much of that is due to overcrowding. As for pinch points I would start with the immigration hall and the departure lounge. Both could do with capacity limits imposed well below what they are expected to handle.

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Old 27th Jul 2022, 07:24
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FR24 showing an Airbus Beluga XL on route to Luton, arriving c. 09.30 !

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It did a low level pass. Now going around for a landing on 07?

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Old 27th Jul 2022, 08:43
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Doing a touch and go now
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 09:03
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