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Old 18th Sep 2021, 18:39
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Hard to avoid politics when the airport owner is controlled by a political party who interferes with the day to day running of the airport, sets its policies and has done for years. Oh and then there is the little matter of the airports debts which are linked to that political party.

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Old 19th Sep 2021, 13:42
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Please describe how airport debts are linked to the polital party, other than being the overseeing whilst in power, if power changes is it still linked?
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 16:33
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Luton accounts have this rather odd statement,

The financial position in relation to London Luton Airport Limited (LLAL) is a particular issue as the company’s income, as freehold owner of the airport, is based on airport passenger throughput. Furthermore, the contract with the airport operating company has clauses relating to ‘force majeure’, orunforeseeable events beyond the control of the parties. Exactly how those clauses are determined to be applicable in the current situation will be key to establishing when LLAL will begin to receive income again.

Which outcome is sought in the best interests of the council isn't identified, nor the adverse position, nor any statement of confidence in the outcome.
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Old 19th Sep 2021, 18:39
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pabely The political party in power sets the agenda and policies for the airport. Luton Borough Council and LLAL are one of the same. Both are controlled by the same party, both have the same goals, both even have the same spokesman. LLAL debt with no income means LBC does not get paid its loans back. If there was a change in power the new ruling party would be left with the legacy and mistakes of the previous administration but I would say no party comes out of this smelling of roses.

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 20:04
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Luton to become the maintenance centre for the TUI Boeing 787 fleet. B737s will mostly be maintained at Brussels.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 12:04
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Ryanair to operate from Cork when the winter timetable starts.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 09:20
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Source for this?

Last I heard LTN was to be 787/737 heavy hangar checks and BRU was the lighter inter hangar checks.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 17:08
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Wizzair re-start Moscow 5x pw and St Petersburg 4x pw from 13th December.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 19:41
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I would have thought boeing_eng would have known more detail
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 22:15
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Zaventem is the new centre of excellence for narrow-body aircraft engineering for TUI Aviation’s 5 airlines. Luton (United Kingdom) is the second pole and will specialise in large aircraft. The two sites will be in charge of basic maintenance for the entire TUI Aviation fleet. Aircraft maintenance, logistics, engineering and design activities for certain aeronautical systems will henceforth be centralised in the two poles.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 09:48
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I think that article is reaching a little. BRU is going from a casualty/overnight maint/Eng cx hangar to 2 proper lines of planned maint to cover the lighter hangar checks. H61 in LTN is staying at 4 lines which is a clear indication the 737 heavy checks are staying unless you can magically squeeze 4 787s in! Plus the 787s alone would not sustain H61.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 11:57
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There will be plenty of 737's still appearing in H61. H40 in BRU is currently being up-scaled to cover 2/3 lines of maintenance dealing mainly with 737 annual checks, landing gear and engine changes, modifications, entry into service and end of lease checks. This will reduce the need for group aircraft to be outsourced to other maintenance providers as has happened in the past.
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Checking a flight schedule for a friend tomorrow and noticed EZY AMS x3 daily and Paris & Berlin running. Biz jet traffic well up as well, hope the airport operator is paying the airport company again.....
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 14:51
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Although not directly LTN related, obviously the connection is very strong.....

The end of an era for TUI on Oct 3rd.....The final 757 revenue flights will operate from LGW with G-OOBP and BHX with G-OOBB

A fantastic aircraft which has been a huge part of my career!
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I think one left LGW today and final one goes Sunday.
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Old 1st Oct 2021, 15:49
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After a long decline it feels like TUI has given up on Luton. Meanwhile there was a line up of 4 departures today waiting at Alpha. Felt like normal times has returned.

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Old 1st Oct 2021, 17:33
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As mentioned previously, a lot of TUI customers pay decent money for their breaks and expect more than bargain basement LTN has to currently offer! The collection of flash shops has done very little to improve the overall passenger experience which is not surprising as you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
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Old 2nd Oct 2021, 11:41
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This is BS. TUI operate from about 15 airports from around the country and their market is to operate to "your local airport". If this was the reason, these passengers would be flying out of T5 LHR.
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Old 2nd Oct 2021, 14:06
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Dannyboy39 - Read the previous comments in this thread about how LTN has consistently been the lowest rated airport by customers that TUI fly from in the UK for quite a few years. This is a fact and TUI have responded by selling slots to the likes of Wizz and reducing the summer based aircraft from three to the token program we now see operated by one aircraft on a few days a week. Yes, TUI also use Easyjet from LTN but this allows flexibility to sell holidays almost on demand rather than committing to based aircraft.
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Old 2nd Oct 2021, 14:20
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LTNís rating is set to become worse due to pressure from the airport owner. It will all come out next week.
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