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Old 21st May 2023, 20:44
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Went through last Monday around 6-30am and it took between 20 and 30 mins to get through and that was with quite big queues and not all the lanes manned.
Begs the question if not all lanes are manned at a peak time when are they manned?


Fast track through security is now a whopping 8 per person paid at kiosks or 6 if booked in advance when passengers might not need it.

Reward for inefficiently?

Add to that 2 for a trolly and a minimum of 5 to use the drop off zone and it is easy to rake up 15 just to get airside for some passengers.
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Old 21st May 2023, 22:36
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Begs the question if not all lanes are manned at a peak time when are they manned?


Fast track through security is now a whopping 8 per person paid at kiosks or 6 if booked in advance when passengers might not need it.

Reward for inefficiently?

Add to that 2 for a trolly and a minimum of 5 to use the drop off zone and it is easy to rake up 15 just to get airside for some passengers.
Overall 50p more than Birmingham Airport then.
Pretty much the same as any UK airport now.
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Old 22nd May 2023, 22:31
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Grrr

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Wouldn't put it past them.
If LTFC do it, we have the Emirates, the Etihad, how about the new Stadium at Power Court being called the Easyjet!
As Luton Borough Council own Kenilworth Road, how about the Terminal 2 Stadium.....
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Old 23rd May 2023, 06:00
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Begs the question if not all lanes are manned at a peak time when are they manned?

Fast track through security is now a whopping 8 per person paid at kiosks or 6 if booked in advance when passengers might not need it.

Reward for inefficiently?

Add to that 2 for a trolly and a minimum of 5 to use the drop off zone and it is easy to rake up 15 just to get airside for some passengers.
In many commercial companies, they offer multiple levels of service. If you want a 4 room suite at a hotel, expect to pay more than for a small standard room.
There are many extras on offer at LTN. The fact that most passengers do NOT use them suggests they prefer a cheaper service without the extras.
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Old 23rd May 2023, 10:16
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Begs the question if not all lanes are manned at a peak time when are they manned?


Fast track through security is now a whopping 8 per person paid at kiosks or 6 if booked in advance when passengers might not need it.

Reward for inefficiently?

Add to that 2 for a trolly and a minimum of 5 to use the drop off zone and it is easy to rake up 15 just to get airside for some passengers.
Comment by gdiddy on the Wizz thread recently - how much of this goes to the airport, do you think?

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Old 23rd May 2023, 13:45
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A better question is how much goes to LRT aka the Council who are the airport owner? Recent history suggests nothing. Just like the drop off charges, car park charges, trolly charges and fast track charges. The operator keeps the lot while securing another 15m rebate from LRT for this year.

Mugged comes to mind.
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Old 23rd May 2023, 19:41
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Originally Posted by LTNman
A better question is how much goes to LRT aka the Council who are the airport owner? Recent history suggests nothing. Just like the drop off charges, car park charges, trolly charges and fast track charges. The operator keeps the lot while securing another 15m rebate from LRT for this year.

Mugged comes to mind.
It would be unusual for a lessor to pay owner for any profits from it's activities.

Can you then explain then this from AENA Accounts Q1 2023 "At London Luton Airport, other operating expenses have risen by 9.2 million, mainly due to the greater activity which has grown by 73.6% year on year, as well as the rise in the concession fee which increased by 5.8 million" which in my non accounting eyes they are actually paying more now.

And from the 2022 Full year Accounts "The conditions established in the Recovery Agreement have had the following accounting reflection:
The offsetting of levies for the period from 1 April to 31 December 2020, amounting to 9 million. This was recognised in results of 2020 since during this period the paying and recording the fees of the concession agreement was stopped as the Group considered that the SFM clause of the concession contract was applicable.
The remaining amount of the compensations amounts to 34.8 million pounds and has been recorded as follows:
In 2020, Luton considered that in application of the Special Force Majeure clause of the concession agreement, the suspension of the payment of the fees from 1 April 2020 to 31 March 2021 was appropriate. This implied, in application of IFRS 16, a re‐evaluation of the contract proceeding to derecognise the right‐of‐use asset and the lease liability for 15.6 million. As a result of the agreement reached, the minimum fees from 1 April 2021 to 31 March 2027 are again enforceable, so the Group has recorded an increase in lease liabilities amounting to
15 million (Note 20) and has recognised a receivable in the same amount which will be cancelled as the expected compensation materialises during 2022 (Note 13).
Finally, 21 million is imputed on a straight‐line basis to results during 2021 and 2026. In 2022, revenues of 3.9 million, approximately 4.6 million (2021: 4.2 million; approximately 4.9 million) have been recognised.
As a result of the extension of the concession period until 15 August 2032, the value of the right‐of‐use asset and the lease liability was re‐evaluated in 2021, increasing its value by 3.9 million."
So they didn't pay for a year but got an extension to the agreement of a concession extension of 16.5 months (from 31 March 2031 to 15 August 2032) but they are paying more since?
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Old 24th May 2023, 04:09
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They got an agreement to hang onto 45m of concession fees spread over 3 years including this year with a bonus 16 months added to the concession at no cost.

LRT accounts are overdue again, which is a regular occurrence now and is flagged red by Company House. The fact that LRT no longer pays a dividend to the Council speaks volumes.
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Old 24th May 2023, 20:19
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Many thanks to the regulars that replied to my how long ish to get through security....all things being equal I'm planning on arriving at 06.00 for a 07.45 departure...put my mind at rest.
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Old 25th May 2023, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash
Many thanks to the regulars that replied to my how long ish to get through security....all things being equal I'm planning on arriving at 06.00 for a 07.45 departure...put my mind at rest.
For all the grief and criticism the airport gets, security isn't usually one of the areas.

It usually is a pretty well run operation and if I have used online/app check-in with the airline and have no luggage to drop off, I can usually be air-side and walking through the duty-free shop to departures within 15-20 minutes of getting off the bus outside the terminal.

Even in the morning peak between 4am-8am, you should be through within 30 minutes.
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Commencing Winter 23/24 timetable, easyJet today announced new services between London Luton and Enfidha in Tunisia.
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Old 26th May 2023, 11:48
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More works for the other new stands coming online.....NOTAM
B) 23/05/19 11:00 C) 23/05/26 16:00
E) TAXIWAY ECHO DIVERTED CENTRELINE BETWEEN STAND 42R AND ECHO 2 DUE WIP. A FOLLOW ME VEHICLE WILL BE PROVIDED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 16:01
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It looks like the 3 Ryanair B737 MAX 8200s which were promised for the summer are now based at Luton according to FlightRadar24 data for the last few days. For info, I also noticed an easyJet A320 parked up on Stand 90 yesterday evening and the fences around the work in progress finishing off the new stands were removed. So I'd expect the stands to come into full use shortly as well as the re-opening of taxiway Delta between D1 and D2.

Does anyone know what the plans are for the old Clubrooms lounge inside the terminal? I seem to remember this opened in July 2019 but hasn't been operating since COVID?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 16:38
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NOTAM says Delta reopening 7th at 17:00
When did NetJets setup Maintenance?
https://www.corporatejetinvestor.com...intenance-hub/
I assume in Hangers 7&8 ?
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 18:54
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The windows of hangar 7&8 have been covered in NetJets stickers for months. Bombardia also seem to have a presence in the hangar.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 19:35
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Originally Posted by LTNman
The windows of hangar 7&8 have been covered in NetJets stickers for months. Bombardia also seem to have a presence in the hangar.
I did know, just moving the discussion along.
I think AirX have a presence as well.
Anyone using hangar medivac 9, old Monarch Logistics Hub?
I predict Hangar 60 will get used by someone once all these new stands come online and the flightline doors no longer need to get blocked by night parking 320/737s.
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 21:38
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See there is a Tender out for a Solar Farm within the Airport boundary south of the runway- Min 10GW site by 2025. Expected the produce about 25% of Airports requirement.
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Old 5th Jun 2023, 18:35
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Are they not going to have these helpers working every day!?
https://simpleflying.com/london-luto...layer-luggage/
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We know that carrying heavy bags can make the beginning of a holiday feel like hard work. And our research shows that luggage is one of the main causes of contention for travelers before their next adventure.
This is the company that talks the talk but still intends to charge 2 or €2 for a luggage trolly.
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Old 5th Jun 2023, 20:28
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Originally Posted by LTNman
This is the company that talks the talk but still intends to charge 2 or 2 for a luggage trolly.
Money saving expert picked up on this in 2016 and points out Bristol Airport does the same. I think Birmingham does as well so nothing totally new. Using Euros as well saves a little but when I last had to use them we found a few abandoned at checkin so paid nout!
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