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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 20:22
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
No worries, Bill. I assumed it was an assumption. Just made me smile on a crap day.
Okey dokey, good to smile 😊
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 22:04
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Draken International in liquidation according to Facebook release..will this have an impact?
Yep they are in voluntary liquidation, looks like they are consolidating the amount of compaies registered in the UK.
It appears that there is no impact on the Draken operations as the parent companies will by the looks of it be just absorbing the assets.
https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/01853419
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Old 24th Feb 2024, 10:32
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https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news...rwich-airport/

Perhaps of interest in Ryanair and its views on the UK market, despite Norwich in the title it focuses on Exeter, Teesside and Norwich in the article.

Ryanair doing its usual is what I take from the article.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 09:44
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Benjis latest Facebook promise..if re elected he will promise to bring back flights to Malaga and Tenerife !

More subsidies or are the airlines ready to follow his lead and toe his line ?
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 10:36
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It must be that these flights have already been agreed to start at some point in the future - if he wins, he can claim it was down to him.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 10:40
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Kind of ties in with the late deliveries of new aircraft from Boeing for Ryanair's fleet expansion.
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Kind of ties in with the late deliveries of new aircraft from Boeing for Ryanair's fleet expansion.
Which doesn't seem to have impacted the new Ryanair routes announced at Pescara, Malta (including Belfast and Norwich), Cagliari, Trieste, Tirana, Madrid, Rome, Charleroi so far this year.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 11:04
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He states if he wins he will bring in Málaga and Tenerife, so it entirely rests on whether he gets re-elected, begs the question why has he not done it so far.
WOuld Tenerife flights require food / a meal provided, Teesside have no such facilities??????
Or are these just election promises, similar to that of the £200 million industrial park, and what's happening to the proposed solar farm, Houchen said that SSE were opening a new office hub at the airport ??
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 13:49
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I think on the routes promise, it has to be something already agreed. Which should mean it’s coming whoever gets in - more of a case of the mayor claiming credit.

If I’m wrong, then it’s a risky promise as the airlines won’t do what doesn’t make sense for them. Or subsidies are involved.

My inclination is it’s the first point - already in the bag.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 13:59
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Benjis latest Facebook promise..if re elected he will promise to bring back flights to Malaga and Tenerife !

More subsidies or are the airlines ready to follow his lead and toe his line ?
Subsidies that is clear.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 14:33
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Subsidies that is clear.
I bet ryanair will be rubbing their hands together with glee on hearing this. Effectively the Mayor has made clear he wants to secure these routes come what may (in other words at any cost). Therefore, knowing there's pretty much no other show in town, he has pretty much handed ryan a signed blank cheque to name their figure!!!
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 14:36
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Would that be no landing and/or handling fees or would MME actually PAY Ryanair to use MME?
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 14:52
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Originally Posted by globetrotter79
I bet ryanair will be rubbing their hands together with glee on hearing this. Effectively the Mayor has made clear he wants to secure these routes come what may (in other words at any cost). Therefore, knowing there's pretty much no other show in town, he has pretty much handed ryan a signed blank cheque to name their figure!!!
I'd be stunned if had not already been agreed and signed - for exactly this reason.
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It was never made public what deal was done with Ryanair to get them in before the previous mayoral election so anything is possible. Let's not forget, however, that he has made similar promises before that have come to nothing but he never explains himself.

As for Harold's much repeated backlog at Beoing excuse, we understand why he has made this up, but it is undermined when Ryanair expand at other airports but not MME.







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Old 26th Feb 2024, 15:15
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Originally Posted by globetrotter79
I bet ryanair will be rubbing their hands together with glee on hearing this. Effectively the Mayor has made clear he wants to secure these routes come what may (in other words at any cost). Therefore, knowing there's pretty much no other show in town, he has pretty much handed ryan a signed blank cheque to name their figure!!!
Oh absolutely, EXT, NWI and of course MME for these small airports FR come knocking saying we will fly from here but...... or in Ryanair's famous words, "we have worked closely with our partners at ...... to bring agreeable terms" or in other words, the airports opened its bank safe and Ryanair have helped itself to all the gold. Ryanair won't be losing money on any of the routes even if the yields arent what they want, they aren't stupid, they wouldn't be what they are now if they were. Of course in MME they will be seeing those big bills in their eyes as the Major let's them raid again to bring in the Malaga and Tenerife Routes.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 15:36
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1

As for Harold's much repeated backlog at Beoing excuse, we understand why he has made this up, but it is undermined when Ryanair expand at other airports but not MME.
How can it be made up when Ryanair and Boeing have publicly stated that there are backlogs in deliveries. SO THAT IS NOT MADE UP!!!!!!!!!

You do understand that each new route is dependant on aircraft being delivered.

For instance Norwich routes could be because aircraft 33, 36, 37, 40 have been delivered. Teesside routes may be at aircraft delivery number 49 and 53.

Couldn't be more simpler than that.

But I forget that it goes against your negative views.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 15:51
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Ryanair have explained several times, including today, that the Boeing backlog may result in fare increases in the summer but trying to use that as the excuse for the mayor not delivering on his promises when other airports anounce additional routes is just daft.
You can be confident that if the lack of replacement FR aircraft was the reason for no expansion at MME then this would have been explained by his Lordship. You apear to be the only person coming up with this theory.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 15:59
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Originally Posted by Harold77
How can it be made up when Ryanair and Boeing have publicly stated that there are backlogs in deliveries. SO THAT IS NOT MADE UP!!!!!!!!!

You do understand that each new route is dependant on aircraft being delivered.

For instance Norwich routes could be because aircraft 33, 36, 37, 40 have been delivered. Teesside routes may be at aircraft delivery number 49 and 53.

Couldn't be more simpler than that.

But I forget that it goes against your negative views.
Ryanair will be moving aircraft around to to maximise the return on their investment - the fact that they are expanding at other places and not at MME would indicate how they view what they think they will make on routes from Teesside.

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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:00
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I'm not the only one. It doesn't take a genius to work it out.
You do realise how companies operate and how they plan expansion or contraction.
Each operation is given a number in line on the expansion plan.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:08
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Originally Posted by Harold77
I'm not the only one. It doesn't take a genius to work it out.
You do realise how companies operate and how they plan expansion or contraction.
Each operation is given a number in line on the expansion plan.
So what you’re basically saying is the MME is bottom of the pile in the Ryanair planning department. Or put another way, it’s not a priority to them.

Sounds like a long term sustainable growth plan for the mayor of Toytown (sarcasm).
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