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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:25
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Not sure how this fits into ‘World wide connectivity “ that Benji promised….methinks definitely a bit of electioneering going on!

But it keeps the airport going..all being at tax payers expense while the credit remains with him alone?
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"I'm not the only one. It doesn't take a genius to work it out".
So can you point us to another beleivable and authoritative source that has explained that MME cannot have the promissed additional routes and flights because of the issues at Boeing please?
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:45
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Err, Ryanair last year said that expansion plans were being hampered by delays in new aircraft deliveries from Boeing.

Can't get a much better source than from the airline itself.


134 posts from you on this forum and only this thread, never have you once showed any positivity.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:48
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As ever folks, there are likely two truths!

Harold is 100% right about delayed aircraft. That very well could be the reason. It could also be extremely likely that MME are bottom of the pile meaning what scarce resources there are will be sent elsewhere. I would certainly assume MME is not one of the top performing routes (assume).

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Old 26th Feb 2024, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Harold77
Can't get a much better source than from the airline itself.
Really? M O'L is the most reliable source of what is happening at Ryanair? Suspect the history might suggest otherwise...
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 17:22
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Ryanair have anounced several dozen new routes this Winter including 12 flights per week from Norwich, despite the Beoing issues. Kind of undermines the excuse that Harold has constructed but guess that's fine if he thinks that is being positive and somehow helps the airport.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 17:57
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Does anyone know when we will be able to use the Sky bar and wander onto the outdoor viewing terrace.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 18:02
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Originally Posted by Grumpy1
Ryanair have anounced several dozen new routes this Winter including 12 flights per week from Norwich, despite the Beoing issues. Kind of undermines the excuse that Harold has constructed but guess that's fine if he thinks that is being positive and somehow helps the airport.
Come on; we’re adults aren’t we? Harold is not making it up. Read my reply. You also could be right, but that doesn’t mean Harold is wrong.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 18:11
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Does anyone know when we will be able to use the Sky bar and wander onto the outdoor viewing terrace.
You can buy stuff from downstairs cafe and take it upstairs to Skybar. The outdoor section isn't available yet.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 18:18
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Come on; we’re adults aren’t we? Harold is not making it up. Read my reply. You also could be right, but that doesn’t mean Harold is wrong.
Harold is correct, Ryanair are reeling from delivery delays. However, that’s not really relevant here as is evidenced by continued growth in the network including the starting of services from new airports. Are we do assume for instance that Ryanair intend to base more of these new aircraft at TFS and AGP to free up enough space in the schedules to serve MME when they already have a base at LBA and NCL?

Lots more aircraft might mean MME gets a couple more routes, it also might not. But given that they are expanding elsewhere, clearly MME is not a priority and therefore doesn’t bode so well for their longevity at MME, particularly if Houchen does get the boot next time and/or Labour win the next GE and start asking more questions…
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 18:48
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I’ll get my coat after this because it’s likely irrelevant, but who is to say AGP and TFS will be on Ryanair?

TUI?
Spanish Operator?
Wizz?
Easyjet?

All unlikely…..but….
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Originally Posted by Harold77
You can buy stuff from downstairs cafe and take it upstairs to Skybar. The outdoor section isn't available yet.
But when is yet.
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Old 26th Feb 2024, 19:45
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From the article the other day from one of the bosses at Ryanair on its allocation.

Mr McGuinness said: “We’re working closely with some of these small regional UK airports, the likes of Norwich, Exeter, Teesside.

“But to be honest, they’re at an enormous disadvantage now versus their European competitors.

“We allocate capacity based on one metric only – that’s cost.

“We’ve done long-term deals with the likes of Dubrovnik and Tangier, our two new bases."

Mr McGuiness added: “Do we put capacity into those bases or do we put capacity into somewhere like Exeter or Teesside where we have the £13 departure penalty on those passengers?

“The answer is clear, we’re not going to do that because we are quite sensible in the way we allocate capacity.

“London will be always fine, but where UK APD is doing untold damage is to the regional UK airports.
“I think that’s going to get worse over the next number of years, predominantly because European airports are becoming significantly more competitive.”

So with them sort of views from Ryanair although I'm sure it's politically aimed, the likes of Teesside are having to do very lucrative deals for Ryanair. And I'm sure it will be the same if Mr Major wants Malaga and TFS.
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 05:35
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The comment on the Eastern thread suggests Teesside won't be seeing KLM aircraft anymore once Eastern starts this summer.
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 05:53
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Tees Valley Mayor, Ben Houchen, said, “Teesside Airport today is unrecognisable from the airport we saved from Peel’s destruction back in 2019. We have worked tirelessly to turn things around and in a short space of time we have seen massive progress. We have seen holiday flights to Spain, Greece, Portugal, and Turkey return, alongside the complete transformation of the terminal. Our plan is ahead of schedule, we are seeing record passenger numbers, and now is the time to increase our offer to local people further. That is why, if re-elected, I will bring flights to Malaga and Tenerife to our airport. Whilst my Labour opposition wanted to close the airport and sell it off for housing, I want to make sure more people can visit more Poolside destinations from Teesside. That’s my promise, and that’s what I will deliver, just as I delivered on my pledge to save the airport.”
https://planetradio.co.uk/tfm/local/...tion-campaign/
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 06:23
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So is the mayor saying that Ryanair's business model is that that they will only introduce new routes at MME if he is reelected? Alternatively, has he done another deal with Ryanair that involves a taxpayer subsidy and perhaps an extension of the no completion arrangement? Seems very odd.
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 07:02
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
The comment on the Eastern thread suggests Teesside won't be seeing KLM aircraft anymore once Eastern starts this summer.
Does it? The last post on there would merely suggest Eastern are just going through the regulatory hoops.
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 08:26
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nitial codeshare routes to be operated by Eastern on which the DL* code will be marketed include AMS-Teeside/Newcastle/Southampton/Norwich/Cardiff/Humberside/Glasgow/Manchester/Bristol.
Think the more alarming is the amount of airports not just MME that will get to experience Eastern and its industry leading on time performance and reliability whilst operating flights that are very time sensitive for onward connections on KL network

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Kind of ties in with the late deliveries of new aircraft from Boeing for Ryanair's fleet expansion.

RYANAIR ANNOUNCES ITS SUMMER 2024 SCHEDULE IN TENERIFE

8 NEW ROUTES AND 2 NEW AIRCRAFT BASED

Ryanair, Spain's No. 1 airline, today (20 February) announced its summer 2024 schedule for Tenerife with a total of 53 routes, including 8 new routes from Tenerife South Airport. With this record schedule, Ryanair will have two new aircraft based in Tenerife South (4 in total) by summer 2024 (additional $200 million investment), creating 60 new well-paid jobs for pilots and cabin crew.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/spanis...ife/?market=es

RYANAIR ANNOUNCES RECORD SCHEDULE FOR SUMMER 2024 IN MALAGA

5 NEW ROUTES AND 3 NEW AIRCRAFT BASED

Ryanair, Spain's No. 1 airline, today (15 February) announced its biggest summer 2024 schedule in Malaga with 89 routes in total, including 5 new routes to Bari, Bucharest, Lodz, Ostrava and Prague. With this record-breaking schedule, Ryanair will have three new aircraft based in Malaga (16 in total) by summer 2024 (additional $300 million investment), creating more than 90 new well-paid jobs for pilots and cabin crew.
https://corporate.ryanair.com/spanis...aga/?market=es
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Old 27th Feb 2024, 12:51
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As an outsider, and thinking about all of the issues facing the country and local government at the moment, it really is surreal seeing a mayoral candidate making a major election pledge to have flights to the Costa del Sol and the Canaries.
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