Teesside-2

[N707ZS]

Could it be big reveal day with Mr Willis, Sunak and possibly Mayor Ben floating around.

[Bill Darlington]

Houchen stated that Airborne Colours has a £10 million turnover,150 employees, ....Pomanda, a company information platform,states the turnover was £3.6 million last year. (with no profits) and just 34 employees .
Houchen further stated that the new hangar would bring 40 jobs, whereas Airborne uses just 17 per painting hangar, he also stated that it would bring £6.5 m investment, by which he means that TIA has forked out that amount to entice a new tenant
The posted photo of the hangar previously looks too small and the wrong shape for an a320 it should be around 170 by 170 ft...

[SWBKCB]

See the plans linked below - door opening 42m, A320 with with winglets 40m, B737MAX 36m

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....NS-1988998.pdf

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov.uk/online-applications/files/265F22FC2E4F692D975750DAF06AB08F/pdf/23_00694_FUL-PR_HANGAR_GA_PLAN-1996563.pdf

[Bill Darlington]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

See the plans linked below - door opening 42m, A320 with with winglets 40m, B737MAX 36m

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....NS-1988998.pdf

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov.uk/online-applications/files/265F22FC2E4F692D975750DAF06AB08F/pdf/23_00694_FUL-PR_HANGAR_GA_PLAN-1996563.pdf

I could not open the docs, just said unavailable
So what are the dimensions of the building supposed to be,

[SWBKCB]

See the site local plan (first document) and the proposed elevations doc (bottom of the page)

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....=RXQOB5FPIZG00

[teej013]

Originally Posted by N707ZS

Could it be big reveal day with Mr Willis, Sunak and possibly Mayor Ben floating around.

BBC Parliament channel says that there will be a Statement in the House today at 17:00, (Ish), on the Teesworks Report that is due to be released today.

[Bill Darlington]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

See the site local plan (first document) and the proposed elevations doc (bottom of the page)

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....=RXQOB5FPIZG00

Yes got it, great many thanks
Cosy fit for an airbus

[Bill Darlington]

Originally Posted by teej013

BBC Parliament channel says that there will be a Statement in the House today at 17:00, (Ish), on the Teesworks Report that is due to be released today.

Bring out the white wash paint

[Jamesair1]

Not much point to 'Statements to the House' if you believe that they are all (Labour and Tory) a whitewash.

[Grumpy1]

I think that it is wise to await the report before passing judgement. Unfortunately, many (perhaps most) have witnessed what Lord Ben has done at Teesworks and the airport with his resistance to scrutiny so will conclude that there has been a whitewash and he will forever be tarred with the dodgy brush regardless of what the report says. He could have probably avoided the allegations and the brown envelope innuendos if had not resisted the investigations by Private Eye the FT and Yorkshire Post etc. Sadly, his reputation, deserved or not, impacts on our airport.

[P330]

Isn’t it the modern world that when presented with something official, such as a report, a court ruling or whatever….if it doesn’t agree with our narrative we say it’s a white wash, a lie or fake news.

Really saddens me.

If Mr Trump is to be believed, every allegation and court finding against him is fake.

Questions needed to be asked, Ben didn’t help himself, but now we have the answers.

Move on or become part of the anti-expert, post-truth garbage that is blighting society…

[teej013]

Anyone wishing to read the report in full can download it from:

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-joint-venture

With an Executive Summary here :

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ecommendations

[flybar]

Originally Posted by teej013

Anyone wishing to read the report in full can download it from:

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-joint-venture

With an Executive Summary here :

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ecommendations

The reports 28 recommendations are all critical of the current setup so how anybody can suggest that the report clears the Mayor and his cronies is not reading it fully.

[N707ZS]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

See the site local plan (first document) and the proposed elevations doc (bottom of the page)

https://publicaccess.darlington.gov....=RXQOB5FPIZG00

Thats not what the are building in shape or size. I see the parking area is reduced and the old cargo building is not being demolished after they evicted the tenants.

[P330]

Originally Posted by flybar

The reports 28 recommendations are all critical of the current setup so how anybody can suggest that the report clears the Mayor and his cronies is not reading it fully.

Exactly, this is everything but a whitewash. Really interesting reading. No illegality but lots of transparency improvements needed.

[Grumpy1]

The 28 critical recommendations in the report certainly do not clear the mayor and highlight the lack of transparency but sadly that is not how he is selling it to his supporters. This was a great opportunity for him to eat some humble pie and admit to mistakes but he is in danger of missing that opportunity.
On TV interviews tonight he did admit to what I think we all knew, that his reputation had caused businesses that did not want to be associated with the questionable TVCA to go elsewhere or postpone making commitments and this may well also explain the lack of progress at the airport. Hope he takes wise council.

[SWBKCB]

Isn’t it the modern world that when presented with something official, such as a report, a court ruling or whatever….if it doesn’t agree with our narrative we say it’s a white wash, a lie or fake news.

Maybe that reflects some of the rubbish that comes from official sources

Originally Posted by P330

Exactly, this is everything but a whitewash. Really interesting reading. No illegality but lots of transparency improvements needed.

At the risk dragging us very off topic, I've read a lot of reports and this is very cagey wording.

1.7. The review Panel has now completed its work within the scope of the terms of reference. Based on the information shared with the Panel, we have found no evidence to support allegations of corruption or illegality.

[flybar]

Originally Posted by P330

Exactly, this is everything but a whitewash. Really interesting reading. No illegality but lots of transparency improvements needed.

I think if we get a change of government the 28 recommendations will be enforced.

[Bill Darlington]

Originally Posted by Grumpy1

The 28 critical recommendations in the report certainly do not clear the mayor and highlight the lack of transparency but sadly that is not how he is selling it to his supporters. This was a great opportunity for him to eat some humble pie and admit to mistakes but he is in danger of missing that opportunity.
On TV interviews tonight he did admit to what I think we all knew, that his reputation had caused businesses that did not want to be associated with the questionable TVCA to go elsewhere or postpone making commitments and this may well also explain the lack of progress at the airport. Hope he takes wise council.

Grumpy is right, Houchen will use any angle to justify his position, but 28 recommendations tells it's own story.
There will be even less companies wanting to be associated with his style of business after this, and not good news for the airport, will he now go on a huge PR exercise to repair his reputation, we'll see

[onion]

Really can't fathom people out.
The report is quite clear they found no evidence of illegality or corruption which is what was leveled at the Mayor and his department.
Yes there are recommendations on how to improve and hopefully get an even better deal for the taxpayer!
Gove has already asked for a response from the Mayor on how he intends to action these recommendations.

The issue now for those who are dead against the mayor is they now have to find something else to pick apart.... so the recommendations become an issue.
The fact is he was transparent when needed in this, true he and his department should be more transparent but he and his departments have been found to have done no wrong! And recommendations are only that. He would be a fool not to implement them to hopefully stop another witch hunt!
I'm more interested in what his accusers have to say? Where was their evidence? Parliamentary privilege is something to be cherished but only when used correctly!
We are unlikely to know if his accusers ever had strong evidence.... or if it was just an opportunity to try and discredit someone.... throw enough mud and some will stick.

I would of been surprised if there hadn't been any recommendations. We learn from things like this. To be honest several of the points in the recommendations aren't even leveled at the mayor. They are at individuals (which could include the mayor).
Others are at the constitutions of the entities involved.

Hopefully the recommendations are implemented.... i then await the next stage of the witch hunt!