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Old 16th Feb 2024, 20:16
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There's another Houchen inspired charity, it's called
Teesworks Benevolent Foundation
It was incorporated a few weeks ago. !?
And Houchen said that Airborne Colours are being a new tenant for the new hangar, that would indicate that Airborne have not paid for the hangar, guess who has.?
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Originally Posted by Bill Darlington
There's another Houchen inspired charity, it's called
Teesworks Benevolent Foundation
It was incorporated a few weeks ago. !?
And Houchen said that Airborne Colours are being a new tenant for the new hangar, that would indicate that Airborne have not paid for the hangar, guess who has.?
Why do we keep getting these sort of cryptic questions on here? If you know who has paid for a new hangar, just say so and help us all out.

In my limited experience of commercial property, it would be more of a shock if a tenant had actually paid for the construction of the property they were moving in to.
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Old 16th Feb 2024, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Bill Darlington
And Houchen said that Airborne Colours are being a new tenant for the new hangar, that would indicate that Airborne have not paid for the hangar, guess who has.?
It's no secret that the airport is paying for the hangars to be built so they can be rented out. Been in public domain for a good while now.
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It's no secret that the airport is paying for the hangars to be built so they can be rented out. Been in public domain for a good while now.
Funded by central goverment grants for the two hangars

New hangar space at Teesside Airport is critical to landing new investment that’ll bring our airport back to profit and create good-quality jobs for local people. We’ve got the cash from Government to get this done and are now delivering new opportunities for our great businesses.”
https://www.teessideinternational.co...tract-awarded/

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Houchen stated on the 12th January, the following

Airbourne Colours is Europe’s only privately-owned aircraft painting company, with only one other competitor in the UK and is investing £6.5million in the establishment of a base on Teesside.
Which incorrectly suggests that Airborne are the investor, clearly not the £6.5 m would be the correct sort of cost of both hangers, he is very good at issuing misleading info, if you read this as a normal member of the public what would you think ?
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Old 17th Feb 2024, 11:31
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That quote is from a Teesside Airport press release, which isn't quite the same as Houchen saying it...
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Can we get back on topic. Of course there is a political element to the airport as the mayor got a mandate to buy it and it is ultimately controlled by the taxpayer
Whether we like it or not, the airport is a political football
Earlier in the day, Lord Houchen had accused his Labour rival of having supported previous plans to build housing on the Teesside Airport site and later the closure of the airport. Outside the football stadium, a group of protesters displayed a banner reading ‘Stop Peel’s Candidate’ – in reference to former airport owners Peel.

The mayor claimed that Mr McEwan was “responsible for supporting Peel and proposing to build 350 houses on the airport”, which he called “an act of vandalism that would have meant the end of Teesside Airport all together”. However, the Labour candidate reiterated his backing for the airport on Friday.

He said: “My position, which I have had for about four years, is that everybody wants an airport, we have a 10-year plan, I back that plan. We are five years in and I would like to know where we are with that plan, both as a mayoral candidate and a deputy leader of a council.”

He added: “How can I help an organisation if they are not open and transparent? I want to do what I can to help the airport. Any rhetoric or language around my views on the airport... it needs to be what is coming out of my mouth - which is that I want to, I will support the airport.”
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Lord H has attempted to criticise Labour candidate for previously supporting the Peel airport development plan that including the building of 350 houses to provide funding for the development of the airport as an airport. He completely missed the point that the plan was to fund the development of the airport, not close it, thus reafirming that his (and others) claim that the airport would close and become a housing estate are not true, although he has also accepted that in discussions.
Having not made reference to the Willis village for months he has introduced this development again. Not clear if this is just electioneering or have Willis changed their mind again and decided to go ahead afterall?
Interesting that comments highlighting his error appear to have been removed so are we back to the days when critics get blocked I wonder?


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TUI/Ryanair ‘merger’….

My way of thinking is..it shares the risk factor at marginal airports?
Therefore unlikely..for instance that TUI would put a dedicated flight on to a Ryanair destination..and conversely of course.
So I would guess for airports like Teesside that will mean no new flights or destinations for the foreseeable future unless Ben comes up with even more massive subsidies?
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TUI/Ryanair ‘merger’….

My way of thinking is..it shares the risk factor at marginal airports?
Therefore unlikely..for instance that TUI would put a dedicated flight on to a Ryanair destination..and conversely of course.
So I would guess for airports like Teesside that will mean no new flights or destinations for the foreseeable future unless Ben comes up with even more massive subsidies?
Merger? This is all getting overblown. TUI have done the same on EZY and others for years.
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Should have put a 😀 after merger! ..sorry SWBKCB !
Must do better🤔
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Originally Posted by Bill Darlington
Houchen stated on the 12th January, the following

Airbourne Colours is Europe’s only privately-owned aircraft painting company, with only one other competitor in the UK and is investing £6.5million in the establishment of a base on Teesside.
Which incorrectly suggests that Airborne are the investor, clearly not the £6.5 m would be the correct sort of cost of both hangers, he is very good at issuing misleading info, if you read this as a normal member of the public what would you think ?
There is only one small hangar.
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
There is only one small hangar.
There is planning permission for two "narrowbody" hangars - 737/321 size
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Originally Posted by Bill Darlington
Houchen stated on the 12th January, the following

Airbourne Colours is Europe’s only privately-owned aircraft painting company, with only one other competitor in the UK and is investing £6.5million in the establishment of a base on Teesside.
Which incorrectly suggests that Airborne are the investor, clearly not the £6.5 m would be the correct sort of cost of both hangers, he is very good at issuing misleading info, if you read this as a normal member of the public what would you think ?
Has anyone ever said that £6.5m was the cost of the hangers?

I think a normal person would assume that if a company like this was moving into a leased building, their publicised investment would be for the machinery, IT, office fit out, signage and other things to set up a functional painting operation. Of course the £6.5m could be stretched to include the rent and rates paid over the lease period (as that is a commitment from the tenant) but that would be a bit cheeky (although probably justifiable for a politician).

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Old 17th Feb 2024, 16:30
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I’m sure Ben somewhere down the line said he’d been awarded £17 million for 2 new hangers a few months ago… by Rishi,Gove etc….
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There is planning permission for two "narrowbody" hangars - 737/321 size
Yes but they are only building one which looks nothing like the plans.
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Yes but they are only building one which looks nothing like the plans.
In what way does it look nothing like the plans.

They are only building the one hangar at moment, but can build the second one whenever they require it to be built.
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I thought they'd got government funding for two hangars, but this article (and others) only mentions one:
A further £7m will be spent on a new hangar and infrastructure at Teesside Airport. Mr Houchen continued: “An extra £7million for a hangar at Teesside Airport is another big win which will allow the airport to bring in new investment and supercharge our Freeport vision.
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The funding was always for one hangar. The architect drawings showed one hangar with two bays, yet the frame that's gone up is one hangar one bay
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The planning application is for two hangars

23/00694/FUL - Erection of 2 no. narrowbody aircraft hangars for maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) use, supporting airfield apron and aircraft manoeuvring areas, repositioning of the airside fence, carparking, associated infrastructure including new access road to the airport train station, and landscaping works
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