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Old 27th May 2023, 09:17
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I can only refer to recent use (since Covid) of BHX and CWL and I haven't had any problem with liquid medication, and for that matter not pre-Covid either.
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Old 27th May 2023, 17:33
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Originally Posted by FQTLSteve
I can only refer to recent use (since Covid) of BHX and CWL and I haven't had any problem with liquid medication, and for that matter not pre-Covid either.
Yea, we've never had problems before. And it could have been problematic as they were joining a longhaul flight in AMS, so the child was without her meds for more than 12 hours.

And I'm flying out from MAN T1 with EK tomorrow. I want to take a replacement NIMH battery for a drill. I know it's permitted by EK*, but the rules say it must be in hand luggage and not in the hold and I have no faith that Manchester security will allow it. I'm seriously considering switching from MAN as my usual route into the UK.

*https://www.emirates.com/uk/english/...-goods-policy/

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Old 27th May 2023, 21:13
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https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-rest...K8ktcptrDT-zDc


If you are taking more than 10than you need doctors letter or a copy of the prescription, so it seems they are only following UK government
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Old 29th May 2023, 10:49
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The original T2 concept was based on a linear approach prior to 9/11 with a significantly lower security threshold and tolerance with all gates being contact and directly in front of the customer.
It was intentionally designed with a low dwell time kerb to gate principle in mind and it worked until government imposed border changes and differing security regulations on the industry including sterile separation of arriving and departing passengers (both having be security vetted somewhere)
The original T2 was linear but also had remote gates opposite. The original intention was to eventually build another small pier in the grass island opposite - there was a considerable debate whether to build a subway under the apron for this as part of the original design to minimise apron disruption and activate it when this pier was built. In the end the cost was high and it wasn't built - a sensible decision especially in the light of hindsight.

T2 was built from day one on the principle of segregating inbound and outbound passengers. One of the very first meetings during the design phase was with the DfT who made it quite clear that they would not certificate the terminal if this principle wasn't adopted. This was achieved by having departures above arrivals and passengers never had to go up, it was always down for the normal flow. Of course this principle was abandoned in legacy T2 some while ago for departures. In addition, the idea of having one large departure concourse airside meant that most passengers could remain in this area for a while and spend money....

There was a change to the design of T2 security at a late stage. This was down to the requirement to incorporate hold baggage screening after Lockerbie. There was quite a cost for that which the Airport had to pick up. It was an interesting meeting, that one.

Meanwhile existing facilities at UK airports were able to take advantage of their grandfathered status of allowing the mixing of inbound and outbound passengers. That ended abruptly after 9/11 and the timescales for making alterations was very short, hence the arrangements that now exist in T1.
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Old 29th May 2023, 11:13
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Thank you Suzeman for sharing your experience on the design of T2 and the rationale behind how we find it today.

I do feel that there are possibly many members of this forum who are too young to know how things have developed over the decades! I know that you and I are of a similar age and indeed have, previously, shared many a time reminiscing - when we were working - about the airport, its structure and development of new services.
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Old 29th May 2023, 12:42
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Aeroroutes: Emirates pull the A380 from the daily morning flight, from July 1, 2023 until September 30, 2023 when assumedly the A380 returns on the morning flight.
This leaves:
EK21/22 - 0745/0950 - daily 2 class 777-300ER
EK17/18 - 1200/1405 - daily A380-800
EK19/20 - 1915/2115 - daily A380-800
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Old 29th May 2023, 14:46
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EK morning flight to 777, could this be making way for the much talked about DXB-MAN-EWR rotation? With a future upscale 4th flight from DXB starting soon? ( well it is a rumour site!)
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Old 29th May 2023, 15:25
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Originally Posted by Tight Seat
EK morning flight to 777, could this be making way for the much talked about DXB-MAN-EWR rotation? With a future upscale 4th flight from DXB starting soon? ( well it is a rumour site!)
Currently the aircraft change is only until 30SEP2023, perhaps the EWR would slot in between the morning frequency and the afternoon one.
For example, could be:
DXB 04:00 - MAN 09:25, MAN 11:00 - EWR 12:45, EWR 17:45 - MAN 05:15, MAN 07:15 - DXB 18:15
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Old 29th May 2023, 15:46
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Isnít this just a down gauge to take account of the fact that pax numbers tend to drop on the route during the summer?
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Old 29th May 2023, 18:58
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Originally Posted by easyflyer83
Isnít this just a down gauge to take account of the fact that pax numbers tend to drop on the route during the summer?
If well recognised pattern, why have they opted to change planned schedule mid season? (was planned 3x day A380 until now)
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Old 29th May 2023, 21:23
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
If well recognised pattern, why have they opted to change planned schedule mid season? (was planned 3x day A380 until now)
They may need a HD A388 for BHX from 1st July - bit of a considence
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Old 30th May 2023, 11:52
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount
If well recognised pattern, why have they opted to change planned schedule mid season? (was planned 3x day A380 until now)
Because I believe the numbers for DXB tend to drop during July and August. DXB and the Middle East gets unbearable, India has monsoon season, same with much of South East Asia that has its rainy season and then you have Oz and the southern hemisphere in the middle of winter.
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Old 30th May 2023, 16:14
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Dubai

Originally Posted by easyflyer83
Because I believe the numbers for DXB tend to drop during July and August. DXB and the Middle East gets unbearable, India has monsoon season, same with much of South East Asia that has its rainy season and then you have Oz and the southern hemisphere in the middle of winter.
Wrong months I'm afraid. It is May and June that suffer greatly although correct about the Dubai weather in July & August. I was barely able to move out of the hotel pool in the day with temperatures 45c every day when I was there in July 2018 . I did know before I went it was going to be hot.

Alas the English school holidays seem to fuel the service in July and August irrespective of weather down route

Source CAA - 2019 latest year without COVID effects

DUBAI - May 2019 57433 (2 per day) - June 73880 (68% approx) July 92792 & August 99791(92% approx) . Note May was only twice daily but 67041 the year before.

Worth noting that May and possibly the first week of June were probably affected by reduced travel due Ramadan but you can clearly see the difference.

Even 2022 shows the difference although just 2 daily

May 51251 (73%) June 50797, July 64398, August 65612 (93%)

It could be for the BHX service although of course the times don't match but I doubt it would be load related in July and August as MAN would normally fill the original flights easily. However If there is a stored aircraft running late for re-entry back into service, then I would suggest delaying BHX would not be a good idea with Saudi and Qatar starting/restarting in the same week as the A380 which will no doubt generate some decent publicity for them both and I doubt Emirates would want to be seen backtracking on the A380 in the very same week.

Just my thoughts

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Old 31st May 2023, 11:26
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New long haul route announcement tomorrow. Iím stuck between VS to LAS, EI to ORD or AI to DEL!

Still, could be something rather insignificant such as a new 1-2x per week Caribbean route on TUI
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Old 31st May 2023, 12:51
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FR new route to PDV

FR are due to announce a new route for W23 to PDV (Plovdiv, Bulgaria) it will be 1 time weekly (Monday) for the next three winters. This will be their first flight to Bulgaria from MAN, they already fly SOF from LPL twice weekly.
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Old 31st May 2023, 14:06
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Always good to see a new destination checked off the list
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Old 31st May 2023, 15:29
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Originally Posted by laviation
New long haul route announcement tomorrow. Iím stuck between VS to LAS, EI to ORD or AI to DEL!

Still, could be something rather insignificant such as a new 1-2x per week Caribbean route on TUI
Could do with a new airline on the Cancun route ,TUI have a monopoly on it at the moment
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Old 31st May 2023, 22:20
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Possibly MAN-BKK with VS
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Old 31st May 2023, 22:58
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All 3 suggested l/h route announcements are credible, I'm going with AI to DEL, AI are very much in expansion mode and India as a country must be one of the biggest holes in terms of pax volume in the MAN l/h portfolio, not to mention the fact that AI offer many connections via DEL to destinations in India and further afield
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Old 1st Jun 2023, 00:15
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95% sure now it's LAS. Supposedly it's Virgin announcing some new routes tomorrow.. if we're lucky you think we might snag an extra based aircraft?
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