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Old 16th Mar 2019, 14:08
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Does the airport need money spent on its infrastructure?
Do bears sh*t in the woods?
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 19:43
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New lights were installed a few years ago, new radar is being fitted right now. Terminal is currently suited to low capacity. New entrance road was built. Who paid for all this is a long story.
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 20:37
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Who paid for all this is a long story.
Given the new era of transparency promised by the Mayor, what is done, who does it, etc should all be a matter of public record, given as it will be taxpayers money paying for it.
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 21:43
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I thought Look North showing the derelict parts of the terminal and saying Peel have let it go to rot was harsh, they made no secret of moth balling 40 percent, what kind of state were they expecting?!
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Old 17th Mar 2019, 09:34
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I presume that if traffic at MME was to increase, surely an improved Cat ILS system would need to be installed, that won't come cheap.
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 14:18
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...NB3TWbilQtZnOc

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Old 20th Mar 2019, 16:50
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Not looking good for Cobham
Depends - they're the ones currently sitting with a contract. Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.....
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 18:06
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That was a 2 million pound contract keeping the airport going over the lean years.

So..let’s hope there are not too many lean years ahead..or else the good old Teesside tax payers will be picking up that tab as well!
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 20:10
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Its the Mayor's money not the Tees Valley tax payers.
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 20:30
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Think you will find it all filters down.
Will there be enough money in the windfall for a new Tees crossing..which I think we all agree is probably ,for the region ,a more major need?

Fact is that’s 2 million which the mayor was probably relying upon to a degree..has gone ?

just feel the airport was fine with its connectivity through Amsterdam...now who knows? Alicante is not the answer.
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 20:54
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Its the Mayor's money not the Tees Valley tax payers.
And where do you think the Mayor gets his money from? Central Government - so it's all taxpayers money which is being used to subsidise MME.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 09:01
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Completely off-thread but people need reminding sometimes that there is no magic money tree....Central Government has only two sources of funds.....Taxation and Borrowing....the latter has to be repaid.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 16:19
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Jamesair, read the local press and come back, the Conservative Mayor has a magic money tree it is fruiting millions for him, as well as the airport he has 500 million to buy the local steelworks site. The local labour councils tried to grow a magic money tree but failed.
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That may be a political spending decision made by the Government of the day but the source of the money remains the same. Governments of whatever colour make political decisions on how to spend in accordance with their political agenda.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 01:12
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That may be a political spending decision made by the Government of the day but the source of the money remains the same. Governments of whatever colour make political decisions on how to spend in accordance with their political agenda.
Having followed this story for years and , I genuinely feel sorry for all of you who of course not only support your local airport .
But it's your right as with all ' public transport' , This is a point government forgets , public transport is a necessity and a right - from reopening wrongly closed rail lines to this situation.

Why is Alicante for example a bad idea , if offered they'd have to take it, because as car use costs increase. Plus more and more conjestion, getting to Newcastle from the south ,the road to it is nigh on impossible due to traffic volumes . I don't know about public transport to it.

But Teeside it's catchment area must have potential, I fear it's slow decline was down solely to mismanagement imho.

For the future , another ' Hub ' Destination would be good, for example Dublin , preclears ' US Immigration , so a Stobart air service to Dublin should do very well.
A London route should also do well , Southend likely if again Stobart air offer any routes , which we can but hope.
It would be a strange move not to .

So I guess the question to you guys up there , if you could have any destination served ( it has to be in the realm of possibility) but what would work well , could the above ' suggestions I made ' work with Stobart, starting small say using I'd guess an ATR? .




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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 07:24
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Plus more and more conjestion, getting to Newcastle from the south ,the road to it is nigh on impossible due to traffic volumes . I don't know about public transport to it.
Ok - I'll bite - is the A1 from the south to NCL that bad? At peak times maybe, but given the main waves of departures from NCL what really is the impact? Also, the alternatives aren't exactly a breeze - Edinburgh by-pass, A1/M18 junction to DSA, A658 to Leeds, M62/60/56 to Manchester and dare I mention the A19/A66 and the "Yarm crawl" to MME?

As for public transport, mainline train to Newcastle Central station then Metro directly to the terminal

https://www.newcastleairport.com/pas...here/by-train/

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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 07:54
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Do we really need to re-open the Durham Tees Valley versus Newcastle and Leeds debate.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 14:53
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He's not a shy bairn - buys the airport with taxpayers money and now wants APD cut.

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Ok - I'll bite - is the A1 from the south to NCL that bad? At peak times maybe, but given the main waves of departures from NCL what really is the impact? Also, the alternatives aren't exactly a breeze - Edinburgh by-pass, A1/M18 junction to DSA, A658 to Leeds, M62/60/56 to Manchester and dare I mention the A19/A66 and the "Yarm crawl" to MME?

As for public transport, mainline train to Newcastle Central station then Metro directly to the terminal

https://www.newcastleairport.com/pas...here/by-train/
I agree. The road is only a big issue if you are on the A1 around Gateshead at 7:30-9:00am in the morning. On Monday, I left Darlington at 6am, drove to NCL, parked in the long stay and comfortably got the 7:55 BA flight to LHR. Last night I landed at 9pm and walked in the house an hour later.

The train can work quite well but as the first train from Darlington does not arrive at Newcastle Station until about 7am, even if you get straight on the metro there is no way you would dare take a flight before 8:30 in the morning.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 21:15
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Road traffic is a major problem wherever you are.Yes the Western bypass is not good at certain times..however the Silverlink A19 super! Triple flyover opens this week..I would guess that will take a massive amount of traffic off the Western bypass?

More need for for a second Tees crossing on the A19...oops..where is the money for that?
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