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Old 21st May 2015, 10:12
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So Ek 3 daily A380 from December.
When will they launch the freighter service then?


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Old 21st May 2015, 10:49
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South East runway expansion supported by business leaders and public - Liverpool Echo

Or you could just drive 30mins down the M56 !

I wonder if they have but a clue on timescales and "possible" state aid exposure ?

Another sound bite based on froth not content !
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Old 21st May 2015, 11:36
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Is the third EK A380 confirmed of just rumour?
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Old 21st May 2015, 13:36
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Originally Posted by Betablockeruk
Aer Lingus - Imagine - a new route from Dublin to Liverpool John Lennon Airport for Winter 2015/2016

More 'feeder' capacity to Dublin and extra capacity to the States.

One day, MAG and local politicians will wake up and see that Dublin is a major competitor on TATL, but it may be too late.
That'll be some of the extra capacity from the Little Red A320s coming back to EI mainline. A pessimist would see this as MAN seats moving to LPL, an optimist would see it as some seats already lost returning on extra capacity from MAN to DUB....
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Old 21st May 2015, 16:17
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Ryanair have increased MAN-DUB to 6 daily from Oct 25th. I wonder why on earth they have done that


Nothing at all to do with Aer Lingus going up to 6 daily, honest!
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Old 21st May 2015, 16:55
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EK capacity

If and when EK upgrade the morning MAN-DXB to A380 the freighter service will be a truck heading to BHX to fill the underbelly of the third daily B777-300.
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Old 21st May 2015, 20:01
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Hello .... just trying to find out if there is any truth in the rumour that Swissport have lost the contract to handle thomson airways and that airline services has got the contract ... i know that they have just been granted a ground handling licence to handle on the ramp .

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Old 22nd May 2015, 00:40
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Thomson could now be dnata ?
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Old 22nd May 2015, 07:53
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1) APD in the UK isn't helpful.
While I agree that this is true as a general comment, in terms of a comparison with transferring at DUB, the APD saving only works if you have two separate bookings as I understand it. I assume this means collecting bags, checking in again, and then security and US pre-clearance. How long do you allow for that transfer when making the bookings?

Where DUB using EI probably is attractive, is for US destinations served direct from there but not from MAN, especially if through tickets are cheaper than flying from MAN with a US carrier to one of their hubs. Currently, I think this includes LAX, BOS and SFO. But as Shed points out, with TCX opening the first two of those cities from MAN next year, even that could change, at least for leisure travellers.
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Old 22nd May 2015, 08:06
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I assume this means collecting bags, checking in again, and then security and US pre-clearance. How long do you allow for that transfer when making the bookings?
Is there not a 24 hour rule where you pay APD unless your connecting flight is over 24 hours from arrival.
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Old 22nd May 2015, 08:20
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Delta are back after an almost 2 month absense.

DL235 only arrived 61 minutes early too!
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Old 22nd May 2015, 08:37
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Fully correct however I have saw check in staff check bags through to the US once you show your onward ticket departing the UK, For separate bookings a little risky but most would never refuse.

Not sure I would take the risk!
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Old 24th May 2015, 08:12
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Timing of Airport Redevelopment Announcement ?

As we still wait with bated breath for the announcement of the terminal redevelopment would it be an act of genius to prepare covertly and announce this on the same day as the Airport Commissions recommendations

.............OR indeed would it just be pure folly with the LHR juggernaut sweeping everything off the headlines ?

PR re MAN is normally restricted to the M E N and in some respects that is good as it possibly keeps the noise down re environmentalists issues etc but on the down side announcing some major coup in terms of airline expansion to one man and his dog from the M E N also comes with its own limitations.

If a strategy was employed where it MAN expansion did come out same time as HR/LGW recommendations would it not provide debate at a national level which although misguided "operationally" might just give those MPs who are against it some political capital to suggest

"hang on a minute, there you go, there's part of your capacity increase".

It would certainly give the airport some traction and that platform to finally get over their message that it has the best road/rail links, central location, best domestic air connectivity, massive catchment blah, blah, blah.....

If MAG had the guile to tie this in with #NorthernPowerhouse debate and invited Jim O'Neill to the presentation the effect could be gamechanging could it not ?

There is little doubt in my mind that if the Government could make LHR/LGW go away they would, whilst it is clear to those who "have the detail" the argument is about capacity for London, both projects have been sold and indeed advertised as a benefit to the UK.....

At purely a political level of thinking a similar project originating "up North" would surely leave a few of them scratching their heads thinking this would provide exactly the same benefit at no political cost and with the major advantage of a tie in to the NP ?

There is little doubt in my mind that if they used Jim ONeill to sell this rather than their own MAG board members you suddenly get that massive groundswell of prestige outside of Greater Manchester that the airport so desperately needs. What this guy says carries more weight than any of the MAG board members, AND his opinions are NOW crucially at the centre of Government.

If you look in detail nay intrigue at how Devo Manc has been put together by messrs Osbourne, Bernstein and Leese it is clear that Jim ONeill has had his hand on the tiller, totally outmanoeuvring every other UK City, the kudos that Manchester has gained in terms of column inches in papers like the Guardian and incredibly now The Telegraph has been dramatic, it is seen in many circles as the only game outside of London. Maybe this will be the same re airports ?

The two projects specifically LHR and MAN are of course totally separate to most rationale people who know of this subject but "politically" that is a different matter, the huge no-cost benefit a project such as Man Airport expansion or possibly LGW / MAN in tandem would bring, would be a joy to the ears of Cameron, Osbourne.

It remains to be seen whether MAG can deal their ace !

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Old 24th May 2015, 09:20
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Big article in the MEN about US routes
Living the American Dream: Manchester Airport's flights to the US booming - Manchester Evening News
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Old 24th May 2015, 11:44
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I would say it's a dream, the American dream. The MEN article talks mainly about seat to fill, not filled seats. Looking at the passenger numbers beteween MAN and USA the first 4 months this years there are 46,625 less passengers than the same months last year; this is 14.1% less passengers. This indicates a different direction, but with more capacity on British wings and less American capacity this summer, one can always hope and espesially hope for more Mancunians taking the trip over the pond. But there is worrying signs for the British economy like no to negative CPI inflation the last months. My few points give a different direction than what MEN's article points to. I'm used to the investigative and critical journalism which is the general rule in my country, not these cosy advert like articles I've seen on the MEN site.
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Old 24th May 2015, 11:54
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wait until you see TCX figures I am told they are amazing and that is why they are increasing next year.
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Old 24th May 2015, 14:10
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Ah nothing like good old LN-KGL to put the negative spin on any good news story.


Its seems if ever we set up to enjoy new services, we can count on this guy to make sure we know they probably wont last long and we should consider ourselfs well and truly put in our place for daring to have such aspirations (below his beloved Oslo, that is)
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Old 24th May 2015, 15:29
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yes I agree
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Old 24th May 2015, 16:01
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looking at the passenger numbers beteween MAN and USA the first 4 months this years there are 46,625 less passengers than the same months last year
Of that reduction, over 33,500 passengers are from the suspended Chicago and Washington routes. Here's the list from biggest passenger loss to increased passenger numbers


-23833 Chicago
-9429 Washington
-9095 Orlando
-3411 Philadelphia
-3042 Las Vegas
-2427 JFK
-274 New York - Newark
+609 Sanford
+4087 Atlanta
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Old 24th May 2015, 17:25
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May figures could look quite different as there were upgrades with
American using B767 ON ORD/JFK Virgin using A333 on ATL and TCX
starting JFK and MIA
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