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in the North East the "Northern Powerhouse" seems a bit M62 corridor-centric
It is not in the interests of anybody to leave the NE out of the equation and I believe this is widely accepted.
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Not for the first time, Bloomberg gives us good coverage and does refer to 'mainland' China and our CX flights to HK.
Manchester Gets First Mainland China Flights With Hainan Air - Bloomberg Business
The article also mentions comments by Charlie Cornish:
"Cornish said in an interview that he aims to encourage Hainan to offer flights to Shanghai which, like Beijing, is visited by about 100,000 people a year from Manchester’s catchment area. The airport is also targeting services to Bangkok and Los Angeles or San Francisco, and aims to attract further flights by Persian Gulf carriers, he said".
I'm slightly surprised if he said LAX or SFO, given that TCX are starting LAX 2 x weekly from next year.
BKK is no surprise as a couple of years ago it was second only to New York in terms of under-served or unserved long haul routes according to some data by MAN. It was, and probably still is, a significant onward destination for pax on EK's MAN flights. I wonder which other Persian Gulf carriers he has in mind. Oman perhaps, or Jordanian?
Manchester Gets First Mainland China Flights With Hainan Air - Bloomberg Business
The article also mentions comments by Charlie Cornish:
"Cornish said in an interview that he aims to encourage Hainan to offer flights to Shanghai which, like Beijing, is visited by about 100,000 people a year from Manchester’s catchment area. The airport is also targeting services to Bangkok and Los Angeles or San Francisco, and aims to attract further flights by Persian Gulf carriers, he said".
I'm slightly surprised if he said LAX or SFO, given that TCX are starting LAX 2 x weekly from next year.
BKK is no surprise as a couple of years ago it was second only to New York in terms of under-served or unserved long haul routes according to some data by MAN. It was, and probably still is, a significant onward destination for pax on EK's MAN flights. I wonder which other Persian Gulf carriers he has in mind. Oman perhaps, or Jordanian?
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Well done MAN, no issue. But reading all the threads, there has to be a political aspect at play here. GO (as it appears to be the designation), is the MOST politically motivated Chancellor in living memory, and de facto numero deux, in the current government. All I really want to say is that to exclude any political pressure by GO, given the past few months, including the General Election campaign, does really stretch credibility a little too much. Naivety doesn't wash, as we all really know, please
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GO (as it appears to be the designation), is the MOST politically motivated Chancellor in living memory, and de facto numero deux, in the current government.
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FTQL Steve
You seem surprised that politics get involved in aviation. Of course they do. Everywhere. I guess most people will have forgotten that it was Margaret Thatcher who banged heads together over a 1/4 century ago to overcome obstacles so that American and Singapore Airlines could start their Manchester services.
Why is it a surprise that George Osbourne is trying to do the best for his constituents (and by doing so helping the wider regional economy)?
Perhaps you wish your MP was as pro-active?
I would suggest that one of the reasons that London has increasingly dominated the economy over the last decades is because of the 'sour grapes' mentality of the UK regions. If one region benefits through one action, other regions will cry foul and claim preference or prejudice. Sometimes it must be tempting to do nothing instead.
Instead of complaining about the success of one region, people need to look in the mirror a bit more.
As someone who has traveled globally for the last 20 years, I can tell you the most recognized place names in Britain that are not London are Manchester and then Liverpool. Both of these are in MAN's catchment.
You seem surprised that politics get involved in aviation. Of course they do. Everywhere. I guess most people will have forgotten that it was Margaret Thatcher who banged heads together over a 1/4 century ago to overcome obstacles so that American and Singapore Airlines could start their Manchester services.
Why is it a surprise that George Osbourne is trying to do the best for his constituents (and by doing so helping the wider regional economy)?
Perhaps you wish your MP was as pro-active?
I would suggest that one of the reasons that London has increasingly dominated the economy over the last decades is because of the 'sour grapes' mentality of the UK regions. If one region benefits through one action, other regions will cry foul and claim preference or prejudice. Sometimes it must be tempting to do nothing instead.
Instead of complaining about the success of one region, people need to look in the mirror a bit more.
As someone who has traveled globally for the last 20 years, I can tell you the most recognized place names in Britain that are not London are Manchester and then Liverpool. Both of these are in MAN's catchment.
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Well said, when asked world wide where I live (in West Yorkshire) I always refer to Manchester and invariably Manchester Utd as a directional place, be it on business or pleasure, to give an idea as to where in UK we live. Wrong shape ball for me, but my old company had a Box at Liverpool, so you can guess how that would feel to some of my staff !
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Well said, when asked world wide where I live (in West Yorkshire) I always refer to Manchester and invariably Manchester Utd as a directional place, be it on business or pleasure, to give an idea as to where in UK we live. Wrong shape ball for me, but my old company had a Box at Liverpool, so you can guess how that would feel to some of my staff !
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Today's Newark flight got as far as Dublin before turning back with a tech issue.
Etihad are selling Seats in their F class cabin while the A340-600 is used on the evening EY21/22 flight.
Etihad are selling Seats in their F class cabin while the A340-600 is used on the evening EY21/22 flight.
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Re the 12m that Kehoe mentioned
Somebody did and here's the answer
Initial tweet smacks of sour grapes which I'm sure won't wash well with civil servants next time either. Also makes the minister look silly. Better to keep counsel and discuss it behind closed doors with the relevant parties including local politicians and local MPs. 
So re political involvement, there's a good example
Blimey, FTQL Steve, the whole thing is political and always has been as All names taken has explained. Why do you think MA have a department that looks at external affairs (as do other airports) that used to be bashing away at Government to influence their policies (and hopefully still is) and why they certainly used to go to all the party conferences to lobby not only national politicians but also local ones and grass roots party members.
You can't take the politics out of aviation nowadays - ignore it at your peril
Think we would all be interested to know what Kehoe is referring to. Perhaps he should explain it - can someone tweet him and ask?
"We have known that Hainan was going into Manchester for about a 18 months whilst we have been talking to them about our charter operation. The UK Govt have a massive focus on the Northern Po'rhouse and have been encouraging the Chinese to go to Manchester. So much so that through Visit Britain (from DCMS) and local tourism organisations in the north some £12m has been made available to support inbound tourism to that region. I asked the Sec of State if we could have some funding for our Chinese flight programme and although the Minister was initially supportive, he advised after discussions with civil servants that no such funds were available."
So re political involvement, there's a good example
FTQL Steve
You seem surprised that politics get involved in aviation. Of course they do. Everywhere. I guess most people will have forgotten that it was Margaret Thatcher who banged heads together over a 1/4 century ago to overcome obstacles so that American and Singapore Airlines could start their Manchester services.
You seem surprised that politics get involved in aviation. Of course they do. Everywhere. I guess most people will have forgotten that it was Margaret Thatcher who banged heads together over a 1/4 century ago to overcome obstacles so that American and Singapore Airlines could start their Manchester services.
You can't take the politics out of aviation nowadays - ignore it at your peril
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Suzeman, I agree with you, I thought that was the gist of the comments I posted, maybe I didn't make it clear enough, but it's what I meant.
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Where has it been confirmed Sarah?
Not that I was expediting any different given Manchester is their only UK scheduled route, but, had a look and cannot see any confirmations or where in Manchester the office would be.
Not that I was expediting any different given Manchester is their only UK scheduled route, but, had a look and cannot see any confirmations or where in Manchester the office would be.
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Dear Rehman,
Thank you for your email.We do not get any information about operating a direct flight from Shanghai to Manchester for the time being.You may look up the latest information on our website.
As for offices in UK are still under preparation for a head office in our Manchester base, you are recommended to contact our europe hotline:00-800-876-89999 (24H) , or china hotline:0086-898-95339 (24H) for ticket booking and special offers.
Any questions please feel free to let us know.
Best Regards,
Lynne
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Funny what happens when the extra summer schedule rotations finish, the NQY-MAN route is sold out or last seat available for the next week !
Fairly certain this route has good potential to go 2 daily soon rather than 7 weekly in winter and 10 in summer.
cs
Fairly certain this route has good potential to go 2 daily soon rather than 7 weekly in winter and 10 in summer.
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I'd just like to congratulate BHX on securing their new Qatar Airways schedule.
But could I urge any senior MAG executives reading here not to respond with a hail of embittered tweets more becoming of a 12-yo schoolchild. That just wouldn't do. Very unprofessional!
But could I urge any senior MAG executives reading here not to respond with a hail of embittered tweets more becoming of a 12-yo schoolchild. That just wouldn't do. Very unprofessional!
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I'd just like to congratulate BHX on securing their new Qatar Airways schedule.
It will be interesting to see where Norwegian go with their long haul expansion from the UK if it's not just Gatwick.
A minor historical note for those interested..
The last light aircraft based at Manchester, a PA-28, has left for Liverpool breaking a near 70 year record of single engined light types at "Ringway"
The last light aircraft based at Manchester, a PA-28, has left for Liverpool breaking a near 70 year record of single engined light types at "Ringway"
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We can only speculate as to what impact the new flights from BHX will have on their 2 x daily MAN operation even if it's only at the margins. Checking random dates up to Christmas, one of the 2 MAN flights is shown as a B777. Looking at various dates from January - September next year, both flights are down as the A332. This seems to be the the normal (default) a/c type but as we know it has varied periodically, using the B777 and /or A333.
There were reports that both flights would become B777, but was that ever reflected in the 2016 timetable? The other suggestion was that the route would see a B787 at least on one of the flights.
It would be disappointing if we were to be left with the A332, while EDI & BHX see the 787, but then I suppose we should be grateful for a 2 x daily service.
We can only speculate as to what impact the new flights from BHX will have on their 2 x daily MAN operation even if it's only at the margins. Checking random dates up to Christmas, one of the 2 MAN flights is shown as a B777. Looking at various dates from January - September next year, both flights are down as the A332. This seems to be the the normal (default) a/c type but as we know it has varied periodically, using the B777 and /or A333.
There were reports that both flights would become B777, but was that ever reflected in the 2016 timetable? The other suggestion was that the route would see a B787 at least on one of the flights.
It would be disappointing if we were to be left with the A332, while EDI & BHX see the 787, but then I suppose we should be grateful for a 2 x daily service.
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The B787 was due to run from Sunday just gone to tomorrow. However every day it has changed to an A330, or, in today's case, a B77W. Thursday also sees 2 B77W.
It could be a case that the flights have been too busy to effectively 'downgrade to a B787.
It's suggested that one of the flights will change to a B77W and the other stay an A330. It could still likely happen.
In terms of being disappointed in terms of MAN remaining A330 over the B787, I fail to see how it would be such a disappointment.
The A330's hold more cargo, have a higher passenger capacity, have been refitted to the latest Qatar interior and, based on current reviews, the A330 seems to be more comfortable than the B787 as the Boeing is described as cramped and narrow compared to the A330.
Personally, I'd be disappointed if MAN was downgraded to the B787, especially given the larger B77W needs to be fostered on more flights at the moment.
It could be a case that the flights have been too busy to effectively 'downgrade to a B787.
It's suggested that one of the flights will change to a B77W and the other stay an A330. It could still likely happen.
In terms of being disappointed in terms of MAN remaining A330 over the B787, I fail to see how it would be such a disappointment.
The A330's hold more cargo, have a higher passenger capacity, have been refitted to the latest Qatar interior and, based on current reviews, the A330 seems to be more comfortable than the B787 as the Boeing is described as cramped and narrow compared to the A330.
Personally, I'd be disappointed if MAN was downgraded to the B787, especially given the larger B77W needs to be fostered on more flights at the moment.