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Old 3rd Dec 2016, 21:11
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CAA August 2016 Statistics

Some good increases for August:

Caen - 1,891, (+22%)
Groningen - 2,282 (+5%)
Rennes - 4,577 (+14%)
Alicante - 9237 (+<1%)
Amsterdam - 16373 (+<1%)
Barcelona - 5471 (+4%)
Faro - 13081 (+5%)
Ibiza - 4002 (+6%)
Jersey - 4785 (+<1%)
Mahon - 2499 (+15%)
Malaga - 9290 (+2%)
Palma - 10065 (+31%)
Paris CDG - 4317 *new*
Venice - 2410 (-55%)
Dublin - 154
Unaccounted - 46

ATMs 786, (-9%)
Total Monthly Pax - 90,480 (-4%)

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So where has the -4% come from then?
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According to the CAA stats, the below routes operated in August 15 but not this year. Figures shown are the number of pax lost:

(EZY) SXF - 5,206 (replaced with CDG which carried 4,317)
(BE/STK) FMO - 1,871
(SX) BRN - 685
(JP) MBX - 1,733

(EZY) VCE reduced frequency (loss of approx 1,326)

Combine these loses with the gains on the other routes, probably equates to a 4% loss.

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EZY should be encouraged by those growth figures. Let's hope the talk about a fourth based airframe is more than just a rumour.
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I shouldn't think that will happen now for 2017.

ABZ-LCY diversion was the 'unaccounted' 46 pax in the tws123 listing.

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Old 4th Dec 2016, 11:20
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I believe if EZY were planning a 4th unit for SEN 2017 they would be selling the seats already. If the Cityjet base doesnt materialise then SEN figures will stay stagnant for another year.
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Always remembering that it was Glyn Jones who set the goalposts when he suggested a November announcement regarding the 18 new routes, I wonder if concern about the 'delay' is misplaced. If Cityjet are not planning to fly to the Costas or other beach destinations, then why worry too much that others are selling flights and holidays to next year's holidaymakers (incidentally I never thought I'd ever see Ryanair and all-inclusive in the same sentence). Perhaps the clue is in the name. Cityjet may be planning to serve mainly city destinations on the near continent, aimed at a mix of business and short visit tourism, much of which would be booked much nearer the departure date.
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 12:26
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I think DC3 Dave is probably/hopefully correct and that Cityjet will find city destinations not served already from LCY. I was pleased to hear EZY commercials on the local radio station this morning whilst supping my breakfast in Southend High Street. The airline is due to announce a new beach resort destination for 2017...whatever happened to the popular Rimini? Does nobody go there anymore? Malta is highly popular and surely could support a 3x weekly service.
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:07
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Appears the CityJet deal is off ...
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:12
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Instead they want 18 new routes with an extended Flybe franchise. Wonder if they will get some longer distance aircraft otherwise destinations are very limited again.
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Source please or speculation
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:17
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What the hell's going on? This sounds close to disaster for SEN
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:27
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Stobart Terminates CityJet Talks, Will Extend Flybe Agreement Instead - Finance News - London South East
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:34
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Many thanks for the link.Interesting development
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 13:36
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No real surprise there then
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 14:10
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So who decides these 18 new routes?

What aircraft types will now be used?

Are the aircraft even available?

Will the aircraft type now dictate a new set of routes from what was planned?

Will any jets be used or just props?

Will Flybe get a say in what routes are flown?

Who pays the bills if any route runs at a loss?

What is different now from when Stobart last had a major push at running new routes through Southend and then withdrew many of them.

So many questions and not many answers I would think at the moment.
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Exactly so many questions need answering. I said before it was premature to announce a new SEN base whilst a deal was still to be negotiated and signed. Now they've come out with egg on their face. Since WX we're going to use they're own aircraft that doesn't suggest that it was going to be a stobart/cityjet franchise, rather CityJet operating on their own, but perhaps I'm wrong. Think some clarification on this is needed.
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Uh-oh..................... this sounds bad. LTNman has asked all the right questions.

flyBE have not been the most helpful partner in the past - the killing of the burgeoning Dublin route isn't easily forgotten or forgiven.

I don't think the E-195s can operate fully laden from SEN, can they? They are ground huggers. Their E-175s won't be available until 2019. So it's Dash 8 Q400s again..........

I can't see this being successful, whereas Cityjet's Sukhois and Avros could have been.

If we're seeking a silver lining I suppose there was always the possibility that CityJet would submerge Stobart Air within itself and then pull out of SEN after a year. This way Stobart Air remains independent - but may still disappear through bankruptcy........ I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 5th Dec 2016, 15:23
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Actually the E-175 is even more of a ground hugger than its bigger brother. The E-195 requires 2,145 m whilst the E-175 requires 2,244 m. By comparison the Sukhoi requires 1,803m and the A320 requires 1,907 m. All these figures are taken from an internet site and need to eb taken with a pinch of salt for their accuracy - however, they do give an idea of the relative take-off distances for these types.
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CityJet pulls out of Stobart Air acquisition

The Irish Times' version.
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