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Old 9th Feb 2016, 22:05
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25 Million

LTNman,

LTN is screaming out for at least 25 million passengers per year!

I agree with you that during the next 12 months a potential 14 million may be achievable in 12 months time!

East of the current airfield is an area capable of housing at least 25 aircraft stands and that alone will make the airport reaching it's true potential!

I would go as far to state that many more airlines are heading Luton way because the current operator has foresight just as I do!

LTN could in reality surpass that of STN operations!

Time will tell...But I remain confident!
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 22:25
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I think the local residents will have something to say long before Luton airport becomes capable of hitting 25m passengers per year...
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 23:44
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Oh No please don't wake up sleepy Ladacan again !
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Old 9th Feb 2016, 23:57
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Ah now, Ryanair, the biggest and most aggressive LCC having their largest base at STN, and expecting LTN to just come skipping along and pass out STN? With what exactly? Ryanair and Easyjet aren't going to exactly triple their current services for no real reason.
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 00:19
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25M

I think you guys are getting ahead of yourselves here, whatever potential LTN has I cannot see 25M without a major change south which will involve county boundaries. STN will champion in the end because it has the space. MAG can sit and wait.

London is a great powerhouse (sorry my friends up norf). Will LHR T6 or LGW 26 /08 x 2 ever come online.....?

My biggest regret, is where the VVIP traffic will end up. OXD and NHT doing well but not true 24x7 like LTN has offered (excluding 7-8AM).
Perhaps move all the FBOs south and this will generate 10+ stands, then again a T2 would make sense...I think this must already be thought about (as any grown up business would) - Thankfully the days of short term minded profit by concession owners have passed!
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 04:57
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Major expansion beyond 18 million is years away and lets remember ANEA rent the airport and don't own it. I still have the proposal to upgrade the M1 and junction 10A dated 2003 and that took 12 years to be completed.

If anyone wants to know the thinking behind the dedicated rail link proposal then look no further than the airport document called Master Plan Protect 2030 which was published in October 2005.

A tracked transit system between Luton Airport Parkway and London Luton Airport will be built by 2015 and have a capacity to facilitate airport growth to 30mppa in 2030.
Also included was the following

The Options
1. The draft Master Plan Core Strategy identifies four runway options, each designed to
provide a full length 3,000m runway which are
Option A – an extension of the existing 2,160 metre runway eastwards.
Satellite piers and aprons would be extended to the east.
Option B – a new replacement runway approximately 250 metres to the
south of the existing runway. Satellite piers and aprons would be extended to
the east.
Option C – a minor re-alignment of option B, providing a more south-west to
north-east alignment. Satellite piers and aprons would be extended to the
east.
Option D – a southern parallel replacement runway approximately 950
metres south of the existing runway centreline, and offset to the east by 330
metres. A second passenger terminal with satellite piers would be built south
of the existing runway.
Plan A uses the least land but achieves very little and would be hard to build and would be disruptive.
Plan B would have the existing runway used as an emergency runway and taxiway and would be easier to build and would be less disruptive.
Plan C would take flight paths away from populated areas
Plan D would have a second runway 950m to the south with a second terminal.



I think the local residents will have something to say long before Luton airport becomes capable of hitting 25m passengers per year...
Yes they would and I would be one of them. Not only that but councils and county councils far and wide would also object and that would delay any work for years. You only have to look at what is going on at Heathrow to see that.

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Old 10th Feb 2016, 06:24
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With JER confirmed and GCI looking more likely to return, what chance that IOM could also return eventually too?
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 06:30
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Luton reminds me of the Chinese economy. Unsustainable growth followed by a possible collapse. I also wonder what is fueling this sudden love affair with a building site that was already the UK's least loved airport and that was before the building work began.

I don't know if it has something to do with the airports front window now that Junction 10a has been upgraded making it a seamless trip from the M1 or even the thought of Luton's upgraded facilities being finished and airlines wanting to get in there early but something has happened.

Also it has to be on the cards that the new franchise for the east midland rail route will specify 4 non stop trains an hour taking just 20 minutes from St Pancras basically turning the service into a Luton Express using intercity high speed rail stock. I know the airport is pushing hard for this in the same way as it pushed and got 2 trains an hour running through the night on Thameslink. If that happens Stansted will suddenly seem a long way out from the Capital.

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Old 10th Feb 2016, 10:23
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Lots of survey work is currently going on in the South (airport end) of Wigmore Park. In fact, several areas have been cleared of undergrowth and trees to allow this.

One of the survey guys I spoke to claimed to not know what is going on but admitted it was linked to the airport.....
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 10:41
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Grrr

Is the survey work here? Aspinall Verdi
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 12:05
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I don't know what Aurigny's pricing structure is like now, and I must admit I haven't had time to look, but I was looking to fly to Jersey a couple of years ago and they were the most expensive by far!
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 12:10
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Well if you want to clog up the CTA between 8 and 9 am and again at 5pm just put the access road to Century Park which is going to be basically a massive industrial estate right through the middle of it, as that is what is proposed. Complete madness
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 15:10
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Grrr

Maybe clearing all the trees is a Masterplan to rid the airport of birds?
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 15:59
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Grrr BA and Vueling further expand codeshares

British Airways and Vueling are further expanding their codeshare arrangements. British Airways has added 24 Vueling routes to the agreement, most of which will launch in Summer 2016.

The agreement means that British Airways customers will have access to Vueling’s network through ba.com.

Barcelona – Luton
Amsterdam – Luton

No mention of Zurich yet.
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 16:00
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Weekly redevelopment update tomorrow

I have noticed that the easyJet Luton-Vienna service as increased from 2 weekly to 4 weekly as of tomorrow, now operating on Monday, Wednesday, Friday & Saturday.
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 17:46
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This is good news (about vueling)
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 19:04
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If licence is granted the Aurigny Guernsey-Luton route would operate 3 or 4 times a week starting end of March 2017.
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 19:11
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Grrr

March 2017, now that is prior planning.
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 19:23
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Keeping their options open? Would this block another operator, not that I can think of one, or is Guernsey a free for all? Why do airlines even need a license and is there a cost involved?
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A licence is required before Aurigny can operate the Guernsey-Luton route in accordance with the Air Transport Licensing (Guernsey) Law of 1995.
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